So I spent this past weekend in full AV mode. Had a lot of fun. There wasn't a single vehicle type that I didn't down except the Python.

I'm torn because to me the Python is similar to the SCR. It is a massively powerful weapon, but balanced with massive drawbacks, however, in the right hands, it can become God mode.

I made an AV commentary this weekend. I chose this game more for the variety of things an AV player has to keep in mind that was contained in one game, but it was hard for me to not turn it into a Python ***** fest.

Let me say this. I have GREAT respect for DS and ADS pilots. I thing you guys have had to put up with plenty of **** like redline rails, RDVs, grazing impact damage, invisible swarms and such, not to mention the ludicrous cost of those things that justifiably puts you guys on a different level. Your craft has never been an IWIN button. But this video I think does a good job of showing that there wasn't much more I could bring to the table short of a second body to bring this guy down. And this wasn't the worst.

I played a Dom match on Fracture Road where there was a Full Skilled ADS (could tell by the ROF of his cannon) who was up against myself, another swarm, and 2 forge at one point. Dudes name was one I'd not seen before, Jack something I think, went 24/0 that match despite the AV Aass he was up against.

So the question I have is despite skill and cost, should anything be that powerful?

Let's take this from the standpoint that holding back (not killing) is enough. My video shows that even though I could kill that ADS, at least I was able to prevent him from doing much damage. In the case of the Dom match (which unfortunately I deleted the footage in rate) 4 of us couldn't neutralize. A quick boost around the map and it's back to full health, unlike an Incubus that has to lick its wounds for a bit.

I know it's asking a lot, but I'd like a good discussion on this with real pilots and real AV guys. I don't want an IWIN button any more than the good pilots of Dust should. So Atiim, Numbnutz, Judge? Care to weigh in?

http://youtu.be/dMyyBYpaQ7E

Ah, my bad.

I meant to say that I don't like the power of MLT swarms. I didn't mention collisions as I have given up on them being fixed!

Swarms have needed a buff for ages, and it's nice to see that they are finally useful.
However, I feel a little cheated that an MLT weapon can easily solo my very much Proto ship. Even if they don't kill me, they jump above everything else to the top of my threat list. At MLT level.

So, redacting my original statement, I would ask for more scaling of swarm damage. Proto and advanced are great, but MLT and standard are a bit much right now I think.

But that's just my opinion!

I realize that, I was making the distinction that its not a happy situation taking 3 vollys of proto swarms. You end up limping away in a very vulnerable situation, its quite scary.

It confuses me that people run scouts for swarms, why do you do this? Is it for the damps? Because yeah my prototype missiles will one shot you. Minmandos can solo a python with prof 5 swarms and a DMG mod or two in one clip plus have a cr to defend themselves with and have more HP.

I do agree that there is no reason to Nerf swarms, tho I also don't see a reason to buff them.

so many people that argue from the pov that AV is underpowered talk about it from a solo perspective, you should see it from ours, you kill some loud mouthed slayer in a squad, the next thing you know you've got said loud mouth and his entire squad packing protoAV chasing a dropship all over the map in LAVs.

Every second guy you kill in this game respawns with some form of AV and some of those will spend the entire match trying to nail you, but people here want to see ADS regularly solo'd by 1 player.... every second game i've got 3 or 4 players baying for my blood, can't you see just how terribly unbalanced things would become if you got what you want?