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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Just in case anybody was wondering. Nobody gives a **** about taking a district since they're useless. And nobody can make money through it in any kind of way. So all the districts are just sitting there. The owners of them just waiting til maybe the mode gets fixed to not be totally useless. Since right now it just a worse isk sink than fw. Anyways. Whatever. Good, no one cares. NS not making billions of isk passively off 80 districts to pub stomp with? NS crying about no one wanting to play the game you helped destroy? Go back to your doughnut nub, eat it alone as hollow as it is. Pubs are the most important part of any shooter and ccp simply put a stop to exploits that corps like yours used to gain isk and ruin this game. Lol enjoy your districts noob. |
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Bethhy wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Look on the brightside, now when you're fighting on your territory you'll know that you're fighting for a good fight, and not just making it so you, and everyone in your circle can run proto every match. Which, lets be honest, you probably already have said ability anyway...Also your corp's name means "Mr. Meow," Nyan= Meow in Japanese, San=Mr,Ms,or something like that,(mind=blown). Problem with your assumptions is they are freaking terrible and sad. The ONLY place in DUST you got good fights was PC. 16 mercenaries organized, focused on a singular goal and executing strategies to impose their will on the match. Pubs are a freaking clown cars full of any moron you can fit in. PC is supposed to be the End game for DUST... The whole reason to play DUST past a couple Pub matches. Instead we get a bunch of you people who don't understand that the average PC player even in the HEIGHT of farming PC was BROKE. Yes the Average PC player is BROKE. WAS BROKE, And has ALWAYS been BROKE. even in the height of District locking. This is fact..... Get your head around it. The ONLY people who got rich are people who where ALREADY running full time proto-type at a Profit. The PC ISK just added to the Hundreds of millions they had sitting there for 3-4 months. The ISK Generated in PC at MAX POTENTIAL.. Meaning no attacks in all of Molden Heath. No Clone losses what so ever... Doesnt Even add up to the ISK generated everyday by players Creating a new character and transferring the 250k off to their main, deleting character and doing it again for 4 accounts per day. Those are the PUB stars in Pub's running proto all day and not caring about the losses. Ask Duna how many PC's he needed to do to afford endless tanks? The mere connection between PC and being well off in DUST is a SAD JOKE, and completely comes from Fear, hate and ignorance. Sad joke huh? You do the math there Beth, 15 mil isk a day x 80 districts..... Thats what NS was, doing for months. Some of us know apparently you dont.
As for a good fight blah blah, doesnt matter, pc represented an elite few, any league type play in a shooter always has. The MAJORITY of this community is in public matches always has been always will be. So therefore again I say no one cares that pc is dead, you are in a corp that helped kill the game and when Kujo didn't get what he thought the doughnut would provide after fan fest he ran away.
Frankly im glad many of you left. Its opened the game up for new players and other corps. Even if the isk generated wasnt substantial it was enough to support protostompimg andmI don't want to hear any lies about protostomping being profitable. If you lose 2 protosuits in pubs you have lost money, mand if you die even once then at best you break even, in a, really high wp game where I make 300,000 isk or more maybe I can die twice. These people, you people stomped the life out of the game and ANYONE who was not an elitist will tell you that simple truth. Protostomping corps in pubs was the single biggest downfall in dust 514 period.
These could never have enough respect to leave one game mode unstomped. No, wed rather ride into a pub 6 or 12 deep, sling on them, FOTM redline noobs in 2 minutes and then run around the redline chasing kills. Omg do you even know how boring that was? It was inconceivable that rather than making blues feel bad for being noobs we wouod help them, guide them, squad with them.
No all you and your ilk did was to discourage, dissuade, and disrespect new dots. Well you, the Japs, the Kains, Kujos, Cubs, and whoever else got what you wanted. PC is all yours go fight each other. Heres a thought, go fight Nyain San. Go fight the corps you blued up with that were your competition that you decided to doughnut up with so you didn't have to fight......
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Crimson ShieId wrote:So, districts can't be locked anymore, thus PC is dead? It seems like the general opinion is that pubs aren't competitive or fun, and PC is the only place to get those kinds of amazing matches that can be talked about days later. Shouldn't those matches be reward enough? Was the only thing desired in PC the ability to make millions, or were people going into those matches with the hope that they could get a challenge? If the second is true, then why is PC dead? Keep playing for fun, not to become rich in a game with no future. But hey, whatever floats the boat. Exactly, if it wasnt about passive isk gain to pubstomp with, then why not still have those matches. Better still if it was about a good fight why not stop the doughnut and fight the people you played cool within DNS? |
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Also note the only peopld defending this lameness are people who were doing the exploiting. Go figure. |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:No one ruined the game.. Corps simply recruited good and got into PC new corps were created which outlasted the older corps (other than a few) this game hasn't been controlled by 1 or 2 Groups this whole time it's been a phase, Imperfects, EON, AE, NS, DNS, ERA. All in top alliances and all these corps have fought each other to get where they are today.. They didn't sit back in pubs they took initiative and went into PC for the competition and isk. And then used that isk to ruin pubs, yes I know, been here from the begining. And all those corps were mostly the same people just going from corp to corp. |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:No one ruined the game.. Corps simply recruited good and got into PC new corps were created which outlasted the older corps (other than a few) this game hasn't been controlled by 1 or 2 Groups this whole time it's been a phase, Imperfects, EON, AE, NS, DNS, ERA. All in top alliances and all these corps have fought each other to get where they are today.. They didn't sit back in pubs they took initiative and went into PC for the competition and isk. And as for you noob,, you are not even that good. You are ok at best,, so stfu. |
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Bethhy wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I don't see a point in PC anymore....just mouse and keyboard heavies and RE scouts...it's lame This player can't be serious.... And I wonder why Fox News still has people that watch it. The Human Condition. RE: the KBM comment - is there something I'm missing? Circle-strafing is way quicker than left-right strafing w/ a keyboard. I don't really see what the big deal is. Definitely wrong about that, but Idc either way. |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:No one ruined the game.. Corps simply recruited good and got into PC new corps were created which outlasted the older corps (other than a few) this game hasn't been controlled by 1 or 2 Groups this whole time it's been a phase, Imperfects, EON, AE, NS, DNS, ERA. All in top alliances and all these corps have fought each other to get where they are today.. They didn't sit back in pubs they took initiative and went into PC for the competition and isk. And as for you noob,, you are not even that good. You are ok at best,, so stfu. Coming from you? Haha This is an alt noob. |
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Tebu Gan wrote:Bethhy wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Look on the brightside, now when you're fighting on your territory you'll know that you're fighting for a good fight, and not just making it so you, and everyone in your circle can run proto every match. Which, lets be honest, you probably already have said ability anyway...Also your corp's name means "Mr. Meow," Nyan= Meow in Japanese, San=Mr,Ms,or something like that,(mind=blown). Pubs are a freaking clown cars full of any moron you can fit in. So very true! Pubs are the life of any shooter, like it or not. See thats the problem with that mentality right there, that elite mentality. The majority of this community is pubs you morons. |
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Kaughst wrote:LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Kaughst wrote:
American time is not 'regular time'. They set their timers late near downtime because that was when they are awake and most active, they are not as active as when the majority of American players are on. .
Yeah sure, thats why every person who has complained about NS stomps can recall the timeframe being during NA primetime. I myself can. Youd want me to believe that after all the rage ive read about them on these forums, that in reality, no one ever saw a NS player cause they are only on during Tokyo primetime? Please. You can do better. It is exactly as ive stated it is. They put the timers to a time no one will be on, and stay up to farm during NA primetime. As for Legion, good luck with that. CCP had to essentially scrap a whole project and start over completely because of the albatross you and your corp hung on this games neck. Im sure they are eagerly looking forward to you hurting player retention on that game too. Heimdallr69 wrote: Before talking maybe you should have put some timers on our time? Then I wouldn't have to wake up early to take you're ****.: we dealt with it and didn't cry so why are you?
i have a screenshot of a Q-synced NS/NC Ambush game. Taken during NA primetime several months back. Bethhy wrote:
Everything you said in this post is half true and based on either forum rumors or bullshit gossip you hear in game from players who know half truths they are repeating off forums.. and make up the rest.
It's just fear and ignorance spewing this kinda garbage.
You know, half is 50%. 51% is a majority. So if i can come up with another 1% of fact, that will put me in the majority right side. Being wrong by 1% is pretty good by my standards. Since we are trying though to make sure an accurate narrative is established, why dont you tell us about your time in DNS. The smaller corps you crushed to make way for your doughnut. All that collaboration and no fighting. The fact that AE got so bored they were here on the forums offering to q-sync FW as a pseudo PC match. They clearly were hungry for fights, but didn't want to risk their Obamacare districts. You go on and on about how much you care about PC. What happened to What The French? You guys ganged up on them and forced out the longest standing PC corp just so you could have bragging rights. Doesnt really sound like someone who really cares about PC. Rather, you seem to be motivated by a sense of entitlement and delusions of benevolence. I said most active, not completely off, you do not understand the concept of timers or sleep apparently...the majority of their people and leadership get on after DT and it's when they are the most organized and awake. People in the corp from the EU and NA (like myself) or SA play on other timers or all over the place like other corps who have multinational members, if you see multiple NS members on the NA primetimes that does not mean they are all Japanese. You are as ignorant as the people who send me mail in Japanese when I do not even speak the language. Look, your corp bottomed out last year soon before PC and soon after it don't take it out on people you have no relevance to. TBH you are not very relevant either. |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:jonny battles wrote:It's funny the people who says it's not broken there all the people who own most of it If you think us getting isk is the problem then you're wrong. What happens when a new corp gets into PC? You move your clones to attack another district then lose yours in the process then you're back to pubs to grind another clone pack cuz the district you held generated you no isk. Honestly we don't need PC for isk so it doesn't bother me either way it's just sad that people disagree with a problem just because of our tags. It has nothing to do with your tags. It has to do with past behavior. Which in my opinion, has been terrible. And since most of the community is not elite, not runnimg proto, and not in PC I think you will find it is your attitude that does not hold weight, it does not resonate. You do not represent Dust, PC does not represent Dust. Im sure most of this community have no problem with you not making isk off of your districts. And since people will not even legitamately attack you, your screwed. The funny part is the Alliance that you were part of says this was there goal all along. To make it so passive isk cojldnt be acquired. LMAO @ NS, DNS, and whoever what a bunch of damn fools. Uhhh hey George look what we did, look what we did. |
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Master Jaraiya wrote:CRNWLLC wrote: I wholeheartedly agree with you about the lack of competition in this game--via protostomping--and how an elite, veteran subset of the population does everything in their power to maintain this imbalance, but we need to blame CCP where blame is due.
CCP imposed a "skill" system whose very nature guarantees that new players will be at a sever disadvantage for quite a while, and their version of pay-to-win is really more like pay-to-lose-less-sooner.
CCP never improved the NPE.
CCP was aware of the PC ISK farming for many months and waited an arbitrary amount of time to address the issue. They certainly had metrics to determine the main alliances/corps/players represented in PC, along with the effect these players were having in pubs.
CCP insisted on a snail's pace development cycle, using the Dust community's contributions to create a new IP, instead of actively and consistently engaging their community day-to-day to improve Dust and see it through its "10 year plan", versus making big promises and talking themselves up at marketing events (eg, Fan Fest and E3).
CCP is as backwards in their approach to developing Dust as the PC stompers are to actually playing the game.
True, CCP were not able to anticipate and prevent many of the abuses perpetrated by members of this community. Remember, however that as far as FPS and console is concerned CCP is an infant gaming company, who asked this community for help in developing the game for us all to enjoy. CCP, to their own detriment, gave us the power to help guide DUST development. What did this community do with that opportunity? They took ever opportunity to cheat in order to pad their stats. Sure DUST didn't have the best matchmaking system, and often times Vet players and corps found themselves in matches against new or less experienced players. And Sure, communication was never that great in the beginning. However, we do not know what sort of internal struggles CCP had been experiencing during this time. We do know there was things happening internally, though, as evidenced by some major staff changes which occurred throughout this time period. It was, however the sole choice of the players to abuse this system for months on end while CCP Developers struggled to keep up with players. It was the players' choice to Proto Q-Sync stomp on a bunch of noobs. CCP never made anyone kill that MLT suit with that Proto Weapon. CCP Never forced anyone to q into Ambush, call in a blaster Madrugar and ROTFLSTOMP ever motherloving thing in site. CCP never forced anyone to abuse the WP system for personal gain. Did CCP Make the system? Sure CCP always told us "we create the tools, and let you players do with them what you will" Well, what we have now is a direct result of what the players did with the tools CCP gave them. How easy could it have been to just say to ourselves "This is going to ruin the game, we should see about getting it fixed, and be sure not to abuse the (insert broken mechanic/glitch) to the detriment of the game. I all but begged this community to exercise just a fraction of concious when it comes down to matters such as these. Do you know what I was told... Welcome to New Eden HTFU. Now everyone wanna cry cause the game is unpopulated and PC is devoid of life. Well, Welcome to New Eden, where your decisions have consequences. HTFU. Jesus Christ exactly, someone else gets it. Yes it was ccp blame, but WE still could have made different choices. The Vets in this commumity could have went the opposite direction. You could have said as a policy our corp will not proto stomp in pubs. You could have said we will ride 4 deep not 6 and take on 2 new dots in our squad. Instead of acting like you were above them. But hey your kd might have been like a 5 instead of 8 and lord knows you are a man with no d1ck if your kd is lacking.
We could have made that choice because this was and is a small enough community that people would have done what you all did. Brutual Brutus tried to recruit me into NS I turned him down flat, I just have more pride than they do. My character has 60 mil sp, my kd is almost 3.0 and im close to the top of the board for kills. I can beat anybody in Dust 1v1 and have given the oppurtunity, not always but it goes back and forth. I have played lots of PC and always as a merc for hire I have never been in a major corporation.
I run solo most times in squad, only use proto if im being stomped, and I give my time to people who want to understand the complexity of Dust. I also take every opportunity to ridicule those who epitomize what is wrong with Dust. Im proud of my Dust experience and how I have tried to legitimately help this game evolve. Can you say that? Do you enjoy this game? And now what about when its gone?
Ya ccp could have done more to handicap and babysit you weak back b1tches, but is that how its got to be done? Damn you just cant have some common sense? Some respect or decency? Ill tell you like your daddy should have, act like somebody. |
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Killar-12 wrote:Hell might as well toss NFsounds and some of the Other Asian Corps some land for friendly matches
Im not bagging on asians, its a mentality not an Ethnicity. Its Ancient Exiles, Nyains San, Molon Labe, Team Players,, NF Sounds, Cap Aqc, Redstar, Giant, Imps, Pradox, Latinos Killers, UltraMarine, Opus Arcana, Hellstorm, Molden Heath Police, Who Gives A Flux, Go Flux Yourself, Fatal Absolution, The Last of Dust, Cafe Speed Plains, STB, DDB, and many many more corps that simply allow this behavior. Some of those were old so many of you might not remember when they were doing it but trust me. If these CEOs had simply said hey we are not going to do this it would not have happened, period end of discussion. |
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I personally felt that the changes were too heavy handed. Yes, PC was making too much ISK - that's almost unanimous - but I don't think we should have removed the incentive altogether. You should still get SOMETHING from owning districts and I think that trying to force players to have 'good fights' for ISK is an entirely artificial conflict driver. We want fights, we want wars, but not because we have to have them to make use out of our territories.
Assuming that districts will never generate ISK again, what are some (sane) ways we can give incentive to having districts outside of the current reasoning? the ability to generate and sell clones to other corps might be good. also a garaunteed isk pay out win or lose to the district owners with a higher payout if won. would also be nice for a corp to use their districts for exhibition matches within corp. Whoever is in control of it gets to name it. Wont be hard on PC. |
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Bethhy wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:CRNWLLC wrote: I wholeheartedly agree with you about the lack of competition in this game--via protostomping--and how an elite, veteran subset of the population does everything in their power to maintain this imbalance, but we need to blame CCP where blame is due.
CCP imposed a "skill" system whose very nature guarantees that new players will be at a sever disadvantage for quite a while, and their version of pay-to-win is really more like pay-to-lose-less-sooner.
CCP never improved the NPE.
CCP was aware of the PC ISK farming for many months and waited an arbitrary amount of time to address the issue. They certainly had metrics to determine the main alliances/corps/players represented in PC, along with the effect these players were having in pubs.
CCP insisted on a snail's pace development cycle, using the Dust community's contributions to create a new IP, instead of actively and consistently engaging their community day-to-day to improve Dust and see it through its "10 year plan", versus making big promises and talking themselves up at marketing events (eg, Fan Fest and E3).
CCP is as backwards in their approach to developing Dust as the PC stompers are to actually playing the game.
True, CCP were not able to anticipate and prevent many of the abuses perpetrated by members of this community. Remember, however that as far as FPS and console is concerned CCP is an infant gaming company, who asked this community for help in developing the game for us all to enjoy. CCP, to their own detriment, gave us the power to help guide DUST development. What did this community do with that opportunity? They took ever opportunity to cheat in order to pad their stats. Sure DUST didn't have the best matchmaking system, and often times Vet players and corps found themselves in matches against new or less experienced players. And Sure, communication was never that great in the beginning. However, we do not know what sort of internal struggles CCP had been experiencing during this time. We do know there was things happening internally, though, as evidenced by some major staff changes which occurred throughout this time period. It was, however the sole choice of the players to abuse this system for months on end while CCP Developers struggled to keep up with players. It was the players' choice to Proto Q-Sync stomp on a bunch of noobs. CCP never made anyone kill that MLT suit with that Proto Weapon. CCP Never forced anyone to q into Ambush, call in a blaster Madrugar and ROTFLSTOMP ever motherloving thing in site. CCP never forced anyone to abuse the WP system for personal gain. Did CCP Make the system? Sure CCP always told us "we create the tools, and let you players do with them what you will" Well, what we have now is a direct result of what the players did with the tools CCP gave them. How easy could it have been to just say to ourselves "This is going to ruin the game, we should see about getting it fixed, and be sure not to abuse the (insert broken mechanic/glitch) to the detriment of the game. I all but begged this community to exercise just a fraction of concious when it comes down to matters such as these. Do you know what I was told... Welcome to New Eden HTFU. Now everyone wanna cry cause the game is unpopulated and PC is devoid of life. Well, Welcome to New Eden, where your decisions have consequences. HTFU. This game didn't fail because of players running proto-type gear in public matches. It failed Because of CCPAnyone here since beta knows this. CCP Checked out of DUST almost immediately after the huge fail when they launched Uprising. Their executive producer quit and the entire direction of the IP was up in the air. If you think CCP Shanghai has EVER placed full attention on DUST 514 in the last 8 months your really lost. CCP promotes their New Eden Universe... And if you don't understand how meta gaming and New Eden works in EVE.. And are trying to talk about "Fair" and "Honor" or use their "Conscience" when they are playing a CCP game or a FPS game for that matter.... Pathetic. Anyone thats been here and played 1 game knows you are wrong. Bottom line you and the other scrubs like had a choice. You choose to benefit yourself by purposely and methodically hurtting others. You want to say ccp lets us so its not our fault. Underline your statements all you want. Anyone whos played pubs knows its protostompimg corps that ****** up Dust, and anyone that matters knows its largely because of farming isk from PC.Take it how you want. Biomass yourself and it will one one less we need worry with in Legion. |
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Beth, bless your soul for trying to speak to these GD scrubs. All they see is what they get, which is owned constantly. So you can't expect them to understand anything beyond there scope of view. And it's not there fault, and it's simply because of what you underlined earlier, CCP is to blame 100%.
Blaming people for playing a system that literally makes this game what it is is absurd. Do people enjoy pubs so much they can't be bothered to get good enough for PC?
It's your own damn fault for not getting involved, if we're passing blame around. No one abused or exploited anything in game to give them an edge - they used the same mechanics available to you, which you didn't or couldn't at the same effectiveness.
The only people who have the right to complain are the new guys who were never given the opportunity to get rich. Everyone else - you did this to yourself. There you go to get rich... To what end? So that we can protostomp as well? The only people who agree with you are the people who joined you. |
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Bethhy wrote:LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Bethhy wrote:
Seriously? you can't be that dense.
You want to talk density? Since you know everything in the world, i would have though you would understand some basic economics. Obviously not. Lets run some numbers up, shall we? Alright, so 60 employees, a "multi million dollar budget", and 5 years? The average salary for designers, coders and artists on the low end is 60,000 a year. At the high end its about 90,000. So 60 employees x 60,000 = 3.6 million a year just in salaries. Times 5? Thats 18 million dollars. And thats lowballing it. Now, since money doesn't grow on trees, and cause unlike you, CCPs parents dont pay everything for them, they have to make that money back. Its called investing. Thats where someone spends some capital in hopes of making more than they spent back over a period of time. How do you want them to make 18 million dollars back on a game that averages 4,000 people online during its peak periods? Dont forget, that 18 million is just a low estimate on salary costs. Theres alot of overhead that is not being calculated. Things like electric bills, R&D costs, bandwidth costs, ect. These "multi millions" add up and disappear pretty fast. Now, instead of developing and progressing the game, those people have had to constantly dedicate their efforts to cleaning up messes left by the folks like you with a massive entitlement complex. You break something, they have to stop what they are doing and fix it. You cant just have 1 person go and fix something, it is a collaborative team effort. According to you, you should have the right to chase away their revenue stream, have efforts dedicated to babysitting you, and develop an "end game" so that you can feel like you've accomplished something. WOW. "im a player I have the right to break everything. its their fault for making something breakable in the first place". It goes without saying that you have never worked a day in your life and have no concept of the value of money. Do you get it now? You choked off their source of revenue. Demanded extra resources, and then complained that they couldn't find even more resources to cater to your dreams. Their resources and funding are finite. Thats why they are coming out with Legion. Dust will never make back its investment cause you and your friends made sure there wouldn't be enough players to fund the project. Dude... again dense. CCP is an Icelandic company.. They have to post their earnings publicly.. Go check. DUST has been in the green for a long time.. Even with developing Legion for the last 8 months+ They have been in the green for a long time.. Not to mention you have no idea what your talking about for DUST's population, everything you said about it is repeating the exact same people that have been proven wrong on countless occasions on these very forums which you then repeat. CCP had an entire studio shut down in Atlanta that was developing an IP they actually bought.. WoD... for what 8 years? There is your project that was running without any funding.. Wanna know the reason CCP had to launch the game out of beta so quick? Class action lawsuit. DUST 514 was in Beta in full Micro-transaction mode. The problem with this? It's actually illegal in several countries. So CCP had to launch Uprising, AND THEN, reimburse everyone for the Aurum purchases they made for every booster and item. Only a couple Static BPO Aurum items where legal to transfer sale from beta to a finished product. Again your trying to excuse their mistakes like it was all the players fault for playing the game. and actually paying for it. Chromosome had 15k player peaks. Uprising launched we didn't even break 10k players. This wasn't the players that where running proto-type. This wasn't Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz and Imperfects, ImpSwarm etc.. stomping everyone with their proto suits that chased players away. That is what made me log in every day and attempt to cap... To compete and get on their level. That is what made me buy boosters and actually make me think about investing serious recreational time into the product. All this **** you are talking. Just stfu anyone who played knows what happened. Just stop trying to go back to ancient history to make your point and minimize your own involvement in the process. Simple question Bethy; do you admit AE protostomped in public matches? Yes or no? Obviously yes..... Do you think protostomping said pubs increased or decreased the player base? See maybe because you didn't run with the average random dot as I have for months you are willfully ignorant as to the extent of the frustration and subsequent quitting with this game caused by your behavior most of us however are not. Everytime I ever came across you all in pubs it was protostomp, period. The thing is you are only 1 of many corps to do so, still you can not even concede this was an obvious problem because you do not want to take any responsibility. Your behavior and corps like yours has had a direct result over the size and stamina of this community. Admit this or not everyone knows it. All this **** about company being in the red, green, studios, wod, blah blah blah, no one cares. It doesnt matter.
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Knight Soiaire wrote:The pub scrubs will never understand our strife. ^ This attitude is the problem. Ive been in more pcs than this dude, am a better player that smokes him regularly anytime we meet, and yet he refers to the majority of the community as pub scrubs. Meanwhile hes ina corp that was told after they SURRENDERED all of their districts to DNS, joined DNS. lmao at FA, then if it wasnt bad enough they told them they could only be in their doughnut as long as they agreed not to own anymore districts.... lolz But thats how bad they want to be part of the group. Dude Frost, Zatara, Voltron, several others tried to get me to join you, I flat refused. I have always refused big corps and mainly always fought against you in pc because you are bad for this game and I will not shut up about it, so keep your filth coming. |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 19:39:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Why is life being compared to Dust? Want to make another comparison?
Let's say your the third princess to a kingdom whose ruler died, now the heirs are at civil war. Do you do what it takes to win, or do you do what it takes to play fair?
You can take any life situation and make it sound like it has relevance here, but it doesn't. The fact is you cannot give players the opportunity to use something then get mad at them for doing it, it's completely absurd. If it wasn't supposed to be used CCP would of stated it as 'exploit' where the contract you okayed when you first made your toon kicks in and has that exploiter dealt with.
Problem is, for something to be called an exploit here CCP needs to state it is so, and never have concerning PC. So look at them with disgust for handing players a way to easily farm. You are an idiot. No one said you couldnt do a thing. What we said is make the CHOICE not to do a thing for the-ábetterment of something you supposedly enjoy so that you may continue to enjoy? Is it really that difficult, for you all? Doing whats right when you dont have too? We old people call that integrity....... |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 19:48:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Bethhy wrote:
CCP promotes their New Eden Universe... And if you don't understand how meta gaming and New Eden works in EVE.. And are trying to talk about "Fair" and "Honor" or use their "Conscience" when they are playing a CCP game or a FPS game for that matter....
Pathetic.
So, when I got Melee killed in 1.7 While wearing my over 1300 HP Amarr Heavy Basic Frame Poto...that was legit. Or, wait, I guess I could have used the Melee glitch myself. Then again, I'm not a cheating scrub. Welcome to New Eden. There is a whole entire world of difference between meta gaming and cheating. Corporate Espionage = Meta Gaming CPM Elections = Meta Gaming Sabatoge = Meta Gaming You can try to colour it any way you want to, but the fact is, exploiting glitches and poorly designed game mechanics is not meta gaming, it is cheating plain and simple. See I can use bold and underline too. Name 1 time NS has exploited? That's what these people have been saying so let's hear it. I know which corps exploited and which did not. I never said any particular person or corp was doing any particular thing. Sorry quoted you and summarized what people keep saying. I said your behavior over pubs has hurt this game not helped it. You are such children. Its classic, well they let us do it. So we could not be adult enough to choose not to do a thing, even though it hurt the game we supposedly enjoy. Congrats NS you stayed within the technical boundaries of legality. That makes it cool. That means it didnt do any harm. News flash credit default swaps which corporate banks used to sell mortgage backed securities and cause the subsequent bank crisis of 2008 was also legal..... Just because rules allow you to do something does not mean it should be done. |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 20:23:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:The pub scrubs will never understand our strife. ^ This attitude is the problem. Ive been in more pcs than this dude, am a better player that smokes him regularly anytime we meet, and yet he refers to the majority of the community as pub scrubs. Meanwhile hes ina corp that was told after they SURRENDERED all of their districts to DNS, joined DNS. lmao at FA, then if it wasnt bad enough they told them they could only be in their doughnut as long as they agreed not to own anymore districts.... lolz But thats how bad they want to be part of the group. Dude Frost, Zatara, Voltron, several others tried to get me to join you, I flat refused. I have always refused big corps and mainly always fought against you in pc because you are bad for this game and I will not shut up about it, so keep your filth coming. But yet you won't disclose your main, why? Its banned so technically Im not supposed to be here. |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 20:28:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Its banned so technically Im not supposed to be here.
I've been banned and have had my main's character name in my alt's sig and the mods have done nothing. Give us your secret identity. No need, you can believe me or not. Truth resonates with those who wish to hear it. |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 20:36:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Its banned so technically Im not supposed to be here.
I've been banned and have had my main's character name in my alt's sig and the mods have done nothing. Give us your secret identity. No need, you can believe me or not. Truth resonates with those who wish to hear it. And with that, you've lost all credibility, as if you had any to begin with anyway. Lolz, didnt know you gave out the credit? So that makes anything I said not true? Coming from FA thats great. Not revealing my main, get over it. And while you are getting over it notice how most of this community agrees with the guy with no credibility. |
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Posted - 2014.07.08 20:45:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Lolz, didnt know you gave out the credit? So that makes anything I said not true? Coming from FA thats great. Not revealing my main, get over it. And while you are getting over it notice how most of this community agrees with the guy with no credibility.
You act as though getting this 'Community' to agree with you is a hard thing to do. This community still plays a game that was revealed to be nothing but a Beta for something bigger on an entirely different platform. Its not hard to get this community to like what you say. The best part is how many of you will not be moving to PC and Legion. Or have already quit and bio massed, best thing that could have happened to Dust. |
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:16:00 -
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Got That Dodi wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Lolz, didnt know you gave out the credit? So that makes anything I said not true? Coming from FA thats great. Not revealing my main, get over it. And while you are getting over it notice how most of this community agrees with the guy with no credibility.
You act as though getting this 'Community' to agree with you is a hard thing to do. This community still plays a game that was revealed to be nothing but a Beta for something bigger on an entirely different platform. Its not hard to get this community to like what you say. The best part is how many of you will not be moving to PC and Legion. Or have already quit and bio massed, best thing that could have happened to Dust. Lmao, nobodys going to Legion. The people who left were the lifeblood of the game, though a very small amount still remain here (lord knows why). Legion is the same as the original Dust vision- a seemingly good idea that nobody actually working on the game has any idea how to make happen. To all the vets who witnessed fanfest, shame on you for letting these stupid noobs have a glimmer of hope. Maybe seeing what happened to us happen to these new sad excuses for New Eden clones will provide you some form of closure. Or entertainment. Speak for yourself. Im a 60mil sp player. Ill be going to Legion, you can do what you want. As for these so called vets them leaving was the greatest part of fanfests outcome imo. Especially since so many were locked in the doughnut, thinking they were holding ccp ransom and going to get their way. You got it all right. Lolz.... |
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