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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:05:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Just in case anybody was wondering. Nobody gives a **** about taking a district since they're useless. And nobody can make money through it in any kind of way. So all the districts are just sitting there. The owners of them just waiting til maybe the mode gets fixed to not be totally useless. Since right now it just a worse isk sink than fw. Anyways. Whatever. Good, no one cares. NS not making billions of isk passively off 80 districts to pub stomp with? NS crying about no one wanting to play the game you helped destroy? Go back to your doughnut nub, eat it alone as hollow as it is. Pubs are the most important part of any shooter and ccp simply put a stop to exploits that corps like yours used to gain isk and ruin this game. Lol enjoy your districts noob. Wow ignorant much? Nyain San was running full time proto Long before PC came out. And their main members will continue to do it without issue. Nyain San never became a Major PC player until Impz imploded and their alliance ended. CCP stop putting exploits? Your serious? You play more then one game? CCP has a history of WORKING with exploiters to try and close those loop holes... Check EVE's history, entire alliances and power blocks have been built out of that arrangement.. Even funnier.. Is... can you name a game on console without massive exploits? You would have to be a complete tool for that to be a main point. Stagnate pub's are what kills shooters. Again you would have to be completely oblivious and ignorant to think this. Counter-strike shows such success these days because of Competition leagues. The fact that average CS players can join up to a league on their skill level that they can progress keeps that game active... Keeps the hardcore hardcore... and the up and coming players something to learn and shoot for. It's even this way with CoD... It's all about the leagues.. League of Legends... you name it...You look at any game out there and if you don't have a well constructed End game you game Stagnates and dies. Pub-stars can never ever be satisfied. they come and go. And again would have to be oblivious and down right moronic to think they made billions. Specially when they have spent billions on PC. When you say imploded it sounds painful but I don't remember it hurting Well leaving the first corp I've ever been in kinda hurt. But anyways I've grinded billions from using BPO's. PC doesn't effect me one bit, that being said you staying on console or bringing some pot over to PC? I'm headed to Titan Fall and PS2 till Legion comes out.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:13:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:did 2 PC's last night made 10 mil..... Back in the day players got about 20 mil a PC.. Well the good players, Huge difference now. Haven't played recently 10 mil good for PC now?
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:16:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bethhy wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Just in case anybody was wondering. Nobody gives a **** about taking a district since they're useless. And nobody can make money through it in any kind of way. So all the districts are just sitting there. The owners of them just waiting til maybe the mode gets fixed to not be totally useless. Since right now it just a worse isk sink than fw. Anyways. Whatever. Good, no one cares. NS not making billions of isk passively off 80 districts to pub stomp with? NS crying about no one wanting to play the game you helped destroy? Go back to your doughnut nub, eat it alone as hollow as it is. Pubs are the most important part of any shooter and ccp simply put a stop to exploits that corps like yours used to gain isk and ruin this game. Lol enjoy your districts noob. Wow ignorant much? Nyain San was running full time proto Long before PC came out. And their main members will continue to do it without issue. Nyain San never became a Major PC player until Impz imploded and their alliance ended. CCP stop putting exploits? Your serious? You play more then one game? CCP has a history of WORKING with exploiters to try and close those loop holes... Check EVE's history, entire alliances and power blocks have been built out of that arrangement.. Even funnier.. Is... can you name a game on console without massive exploits? You would have to be a complete tool for that to be a main point. Stagnate pub's are what kills shooters. Again you would have to be completely oblivious and ignorant to think this. Counter-strike shows such success these days because of Competition leagues. The fact that average CS players can join up to a league on their skill level that they can progress keeps that game active... Keeps the hardcore hardcore... and the up and coming players something to learn and shoot for. It's even this way with CoD... It's all about the leagues.. League of Legends... you name it...You look at any game out there and if you don't have a well constructed End game you game Stagnates and dies. Pub-stars can never ever be satisfied. they come and go. And again would have to be oblivious and down right moronic to think they made billions. Specially when they have spent billions on PC. When you say imploded it sounds painful but I don't remember it hurting Well leaving the first corp I've ever been in kinda hurt. But anyways I've grinded billions from using BPO's. PC doesn't effect me one bit, that being said you staying on console or bringing some pot over to PC? I'm headed to Titan Fall and PS2 till Legion comes out. I KNow some "Impz at heart" that still talk about the end with a nostalgic tear in the eye. Yah been playing Titanfall on PC since it came out... Another example of Pubs stagnating.. If you aren't getting into competitive play the game gets boring so quick. Been playing on PS2 alot lately.. The new map Hossin in a giant kinda tropical forest is awesome.. just got my BR to 100... But the game gets boring after 3-4 hours.. And you feel tired as hell after. Well damn, I won't be on for like a week or so then I'll be a scrub all over again. But I haven't played PS2 in a long time so I'm hoping it's better this time
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:24:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bethhy wrote:
I KNow some "Impz at heart" that still talk about the end with a nostalgic tear in the eye.
Yah been playing Titanfall on PC since it came out... Another example of Pubs stagnating.. If you aren't getting into competitive play the game gets boring so quick.
Been playing on PS2 alot lately.. The new map Hossin in a giant kinda tropical forest is awesome.. just got my BR to 100... But the game gets boring after 3-4 hours.. And you feel tired as hell after.
Well damn, I won't be on for like a week or so then I'll be a scrub all over again. But I haven't played PS2 in a long time so I'm hoping it's better this time My suggestion is just drop 20 bucks on it and treat it as a cheap game. Will save you alot of frustration in character progression. PS2 suffers from the same new player curses DUST does. Lol knowing me I probably will. But I'll be well known In no time.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:59:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Bethhy wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I don't see a point in PC anymore....just mouse and keyboard heavies and RE scouts...it's lame This player can't be serious.... And I wonder why Fox News still has people that watch it. The Human Condition. I don't expect someone from a corp that held over 10 districts to understand.....sucks you can make Isk while locking districts now doesn't it? What happened to AE? Broke from stress of the PC changes? Good lord.... Retirement from a dead game is what I recall.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.06 19:31:00 -
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No one ruined the game.. Corps simply recruited good and got into PC new corps were created which outlasted the older corps (other than a few) this game hasn't been controlled by 1 or 2 Groups this whole time it's been a phase, Imperfects, EON, AE, NS, DNS, ERA. All in top alliances and all these corps have fought each other to get where they are today.. They didn't sit back in pubs they took initiative and went into PC for the competition and isk.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 01:34:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:No one ruined the game.. Corps simply recruited good and got into PC new corps were created which outlasted the older corps (other than a few) this game hasn't been controlled by 1 or 2 Groups this whole time it's been a phase, Imperfects, EON, AE, NS, DNS, ERA. All in top alliances and all these corps have fought each other to get where they are today.. They didn't sit back in pubs they took initiative and went into PC for the competition and isk. And as for you noob,, you are not even that good. You are ok at best,, so stfu. Coming from you? Haha
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 01:36:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Bethhy wrote:
If you think PC has anything to do with someone being wealthy in DUST? your clueless about the basic workings of this game.
i think you are being willfully ignorant. NS did district lockings, they joined all the monopoly alliances, (jumping ship at the right time), put all their timers on Tokyo time, and then spent regular prime time in pub matches doing endless stomps. Stop acting like they are just a bunch of regular folks who had a few good games of caught some lucky breaks. They systematically used and abused the system till CCP had their hand forced into changing it. They took a positive community reward, and turned it into something that negatively impacted many players and the game itself. They had a choice. They could have out their timers in regular time. Since they are all online at that time anyway. But they preferred to do stomps and make the timers inaccessible. They locked, before locking was fixed. they did everything in their power to keep their ISK subsidy just so they could finance the stomping of new players. Theres alot of players and corps who could legitimately say that the changes to PC have negatively impacted them. NS and their NC puppets are not one of them. It was their actions more than any other corp that provoked these changes. If theres anyone who should just shut up and deal with the consequences, its them. Before talking maybe you should have put some timers on our time? Then I wouldn't have to wake up early to take you're ****.: we dealt with it and didn't cry so why are you?
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 01:47:00 -
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You really are that ignorant aren't you? If you were in NS you would know when most players get on.. Yeah we have about 2 full squads during NA time but why would we set timers for 12 -20 players? NS prime time isn't NA prime time. We have enough players for at least 1 squad at all times (usually, not always).
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 02:09:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:You really are that ignorant aren't you? If you were in NS you would know when most players get on.. Yeah we have about 2 full squads during NA time but why would we set timers for 12 -20 players? NS prime time isn't NA prime time. We have enough players for at least 1 squad at all times (usually, not always). Also we try to q-sync against each other when we have 2 full squads on. Unfortunately the matchmaking doesn't always put us on opposite sides.. Look, you can justify things however you want. Getting me to agree with you wont change much. The OP started this thread to lament the lack of passive ISK. I was simply explaining to him that he belonged to an organization that is partially responsible for the present situation. You can give your reasons, ect. It wont change what has happened. if people didn't reallocate PC ISK to pubs, people in the pubs wouldn't have complained as much. And if they didn't complain as much, CCP wouldn't have had to change the system. Im not the one that said "Yeah why dont you guys grab 5 madrugar ion cannons and go stomp a bunch of new players right out of the academy". You guys did that all on your own. You can call me ignorant all you want. Maybe from your perspective thats how I look. From my perspective though, you look like you're in denial. Nah I know what you mean but you all make it look like we've done nothing to get here and make it sound like we have to hide our timers even though that's OUR prime time.. And then that other dude saying I'm an "okay" player when he can't even post from his main. That's like us expecting Americans to put their districts on Our prime time. Won't happen will it? I've made my point I'm done here.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 02:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Four districts flipped today so... No idea what you're talking about.. So many of us have left but I wish to stay forum active till 3k likes. And because I'm awesome.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 03:08:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:Bethhy wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Look on the brightside, now when you're fighting on your territory you'll know that you're fighting for a good fight, and not just making it so you, and everyone in your circle can run proto every match. Which, lets be honest, you probably already have said ability anyway...Also your corp's name means "Mr. Meow," Nyan= Meow in Japanese, San=Mr,Ms,or something like that,(mind=blown). Problem with your assumptions is they are freaking terrible and sad. The ONLY place in DUST you got good fights was PC. 16 mercenaries organized, focused on a singular goal and executing strategies to impose their will on the match. Pubs are a freaking clown cars full of any moron you can fit in. PC is supposed to be the End game for DUST... The whole reason to play DUST past a couple Pub matches. Instead we get a bunch of you people who don't understand that the average PC player even in the HEIGHT of farming PC was BROKE. Yes the Average PC player is BROKE. WAS BROKE, And has ALWAYS been BROKE. even in the height of District locking. This is fact..... Get your head around it. The ONLY people who got rich are people who where ALREADY running full time proto-type at a Profit. The PC ISK just added to the Hundreds of millions they had sitting there for 3-4 months. The ISK Generated in PC at MAX POTENTIAL.. Meaning no attacks in all of Molden Heath. No Clone losses what so ever... Doesnt Even add up to the ISK generated everyday by players Creating a new character and transferring the 250k off to their main, deleting character and doing it again for 4 accounts per day. Those are the PUB stars in Pub's running proto all day and not caring about the losses. Ask Duna how many PC's he needed to do to afford endless tanks? The mere connection between PC and being well off in DUST is a SAD JOKE, and completely comes from Fear, hate and ignorance. I don't know man I've made alot of my money doing pc I almost always turn a profit at the end unless im fighting really hard against corps like ERA or nyain san but you do have point alot ppl get rich as fuk being pubstars hell even I gotta admit I make bank running pubs but I think in total I've made far more doing pc thats just my 2 cents tho I've made about 2 bil in pubs. Didn't pay attention to PC isk so idk how much I've made from that I'm assuming a lot but either way I'd be set to run proto in pubs forever and not cuz of PC.. For the top players PC was more for epeen stroking than isk.. But yeah you're right you used to make bank from pc's especially during the EON war. I can see an argument here for proto pub stars who aren't good at this game, but the good players could afford proto either way cuz you can make bank in pubs too (much slower).
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 05:11:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Kaughst wrote:
American time is not 'regular time'. They set their timers late near downtime because that was when they are awake and most active, they are not as active as when the majority of American players are on. .
Yeah sure, thats why every person who has complained about NS stomps can recall the timeframe being during NA primetime. I myself can. Youd want me to believe that after all the rage ive read about them on these forums, that in reality, no one ever saw a NS player cause they are only on during Tokyo primetime? Please. You can do better. It is exactly as ive stated it is. They put the timers to a time no one will be on, and stay up to farm during NA primetime. As for Legion, good luck with that. CCP had to essentially scrap a whole project and start over completely because of the albatross you and your corp hung on this games neck. Im sure they are eagerly looking forward to you hurting player retention on that game too. Heimdallr69 wrote: Before talking maybe you should have put some timers on our time? Then I wouldn't have to wake up early to take you're ****.: we dealt with it and didn't cry so why are you?
i have a screenshot of a Q-synced NS/NC Ambush game. Taken during NA primetime several months back. Bethhy wrote:
Everything you said in this post is half true and based on either forum rumors or bullshit gossip you hear in game from players who know half truths they are repeating off forums.. and make up the rest.
It's just fear and ignorance spewing this kinda garbage.
You know, half is 50%. 51% is a majority. So if i can come up with another 1% of fact, that will put me in the majority right side. Being wrong by 1% is pretty good by my standards. Since we are trying though to make sure an accurate narrative is established, why dont you tell us about your time in DNS. The smaller corps you crushed to make way for your doughnut. All that collaboration and no fighting. The fact that AE got so bored they were here on the forums offering to q-sync FW as a pseudo PC match. They clearly were hungry for fights, but didn't want to risk their Obamacare districts. You go on and on about how much you care about PC. What happened to What The French? You guys ganged up on them and forced out the longest standing PC corp just so you could have bragging rights. Doesnt really sound like someone who really cares about PC. Rather, you seem to be motivated by a sense of entitlement and delusions of benevolence. I said most active, not completely off, you do not understand the concept of timers or sleep apparently...the majority of their people and leadership get on after DT and it's when they are the most organized and awake. People in the corp from the EU and NA (like myself) or SA play on other timers or all over the place like other corps who have multinational members, if you see multiple NS members on the NA primetimes that does not mean they are all Japanese. You are as ignorant as the people who send me mail in Japanese when I do not even speak the language. Look, your corp bottomed out last year soon before PC and soon after it don't take it out on people you have no relevance to. Sums it up.. Any other false accusations?
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 13:48:00 -
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jonny battles wrote:It's funny the people who says it's not broken there all the people who own most of it If you think us getting isk is the problem then you're wrong. What happens when a new corp gets into PC? You move your clones to attack another district then lose yours in the process then you're back to pubs to grind another clone pack cuz the district you held generated you no isk. Honestly we don't need PC for isk so it doesn't bother me either way it's just sad that people disagree with a problem just because of our tags.
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Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:22:00 -
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Tomate Pote wrote:Nyan San = Chinese Gold Farmers. It's Nyain.. And Japanese..
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:35:00 -
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I've been in several corps we started from scratch and got into PC those corps only died when the leaders left. Within a month of creation we had 4 districts. We had about 4 vets in the corp so it's very possible to do PC but you have to build around PC not pubs, not every corp is cut out for PC. The sad truth though I wish there was PVE that'd help the non PC corps. I'm not trying to be mean but it's how it is.
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Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.08 09:39:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:Beth, bless your soul for trying to speak to these GD scrubs. All they see is what they get, which is owned constantly. So you can't expect them to understand anything beyond there scope of view. And it's not there fault, and it's simply because of what you underlined earlier, CCP is to blame 100%.
Blaming people for playing a system that literally makes this game what it is is absurd. Do people enjoy pubs so much they can't be bothered to get good enough for PC?
It's your own damn fault for not getting involved, if we're passing blame around. No one abused or exploited anything in game to give them an edge - they used the same mechanics available to you, which you didn't or couldn't at the same effectiveness.
The only people who have the right to complain are the new guys who were never given the opportunity to get rich. Everyone else - you did this to yourself. There you go to get rich... To what end? So that we can protostomp as well? The only people who agree with you are the people who joined you. You know how much jets or mcc's were supposed to cost? Sorry but you wouldn't get that in pubs for a long time. Isk used to have a purpose to save up for this stuff like this but that ended up not getting implemented. But I can see how a new player wouldn't know that.
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Posted - 2014.07.08 10:21:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Bethhy wrote:
CCP promotes their New Eden Universe... And if you don't understand how meta gaming and New Eden works in EVE.. And are trying to talk about "Fair" and "Honor" or use their "Conscience" when they are playing a CCP game or a FPS game for that matter....
Pathetic.
So, when I got Melee killed in 1.7 While wearing my over 1300 HP Amarr Heavy Basic Frame Poto...that was legit. Or, wait, I guess I could have used the Melee glitch myself. Then again, I'm not a cheating scrub. Welcome to New Eden. There is a whole entire world of difference between meta gaming and cheating. Corporate Espionage = Meta Gaming CPM Elections = Meta Gaming Sabatoge = Meta Gaming You can try to colour it any way you want to, but the fact is, exploiting glitches and poorly designed game mechanics is not meta gaming, it is cheating plain and simple. See I can use bold and underline too. Name 1 time NS has exploited? That's what these people have been saying so let's hear it. I know which corps exploited and which did not.
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Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.08 19:42:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Bethhy wrote:
CCP promotes their New Eden Universe... And if you don't understand how meta gaming and New Eden works in EVE.. And are trying to talk about "Fair" and "Honor" or use their "Conscience" when they are playing a CCP game or a FPS game for that matter....
Pathetic.
So, when I got Melee killed in 1.7 While wearing my over 1300 HP Amarr Heavy Basic Frame Poto...that was legit. Or, wait, I guess I could have used the Melee glitch myself. Then again, I'm not a cheating scrub. Welcome to New Eden. There is a whole entire world of difference between meta gaming and cheating. Corporate Espionage = Meta Gaming CPM Elections = Meta Gaming Sabatoge = Meta Gaming You can try to colour it any way you want to, but the fact is, exploiting glitches and poorly designed game mechanics is not meta gaming, it is cheating plain and simple. See I can use bold and underline too. Name 1 time NS has exploited? That's what these people have been saying so let's hear it. I know which corps exploited and which did not. I never said any particular person or corp was doing any particular thing. Sorry quoted you and summarized what people keep saying.
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Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.08 23:38:00 -
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I'd love to keep this flame war going but unfortunately I can not I have been called back to my duties of watching anime. Have fun.
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