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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Gloomy Cobra wrote:

Please answer these questions if you can :)

-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?

-When will we get the logi vehicles back?

-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?

- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?

- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust?

Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why

Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning

Very unlikely

Very unlikely

If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.

I'll help out a bit with context.

Previously there was quite a few modules added before the Vehicle 'nuke' was brought in.
-We have various different types of weapon upgrades that adjusted how turrets behaved (turn rate, rate of fire, and heat)
-There was navigation modules that adjusted navigation; agility vs acceleration (instead of straight up speed bonus) Some of these were useful some of them were not and they required significant investment to make worthwhile and the modules encouraged stacking.
-There was weapon turret variants some where ignored due to poor functions or some had just superior functions (explosive railgun for example was just used because it was better against infantry.
-Remote Repair modules basically removed on the grounds that the vehicles that used them where removed.
-We had 'medium' plates that were removed as they offered a bit too much to LAVs.
... Bottom line most of these where removed because they were in fact extra noise module just to have modules and many of them where either far too much go to or far too much don't even bothers.

Logistic LAVs, Scout LAVs, Logistics Dropships, and Enforcer HAVs were removed simply on the grounds of the roles they did not fulfill. For example the Logistics LAV managed to turn into the ultimate murder taxi and was among the hardest vehicles to destroy because of it. So many of these vehicles did not fulfill the intended roles. Some of these may require some really creative tinkering to make them feel just as unique as the assault dropship the only specialist vehicle to survive the purge because it was the only one that had a role.


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Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2124	Posted - 2014.07.07 03:34:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Gloomy Cobra wrote: Please answer these questions if you can :) -When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in? -When will we get the logi vehicles back? -Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust? - Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit? - Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. Just makes so little sense, Why CCP would have an established community and product running and not test assets and concepts being developed for Legion, It serves dual purposes.. Not only generated revenue streams for CCP on assets they wouldn't have a chance on return for possibly 2 years + for legion development.. But use a veteran community to balance test the concepts. Not even testing the concept and balance nature around the Heavy weapon variants or vehicle variants just leaves SOOO much to be done in Legion beta. You guys are leaving more work for yourself having to rework the same numbers for months.. in the end... instead of mitigating any of it now. While gaining positives results and revenue from an already established CCP product.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2125	Posted - 2014.07.07 03:47:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gloomy Cobra wrote: Please answer these questions if you can :) -When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in? -When will we get the logi vehicles back? -Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust? - Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit? - Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. I'll help out a bit with context. Previously there was quite a few modules added before the Vehicle 'nuke' was brought in. -We have various different types of weapon upgrades that adjusted how turrets behaved (turn rate, rate of fire, and heat) -There was navigation modules that adjusted navigation; agility vs acceleration (instead of straight up speed bonus) Some of these were useful some of them were not and they required significant investment to make worthwhile and the modules encouraged stacking. -There was weapon turret variants some where ignored due to poor functions or some had just superior functions (explosive railgun for example was just used because it was better against infantry. -Remote Repair modules basically removed on the grounds that the vehicles that used them where removed. -We had 'medium' plates that were removed as they offered a bit too much to LAVs. ... Bottom line most of these where removed because they were in fact extra noise module just to have modules and many of them where either far too much go to or far too much don't even bothers. Logistic LAVs, Scout LAVs, Logistics Dropships, and Enforcer HAVs were removed simply on the grounds of the roles they did not fulfill. For example the Logistics LAV managed to turn into the ultimate murder taxi and was among the hardest vehicles to destroy because of it. So many of these vehicles did not fulfill the intended roles. Some of these may require some really creative tinkering to make them feel just as unique as the assault dropship the only specialist vehicle to survive the purge because it was the only one that had a role. All the turret modules where awesome.. But the damage module made turret turning speed and recoil reudction less useful. Was more a module balance issue that got asked for and never took place.. rather then 2 of them being pointless. All the navigation modules took away "tank" for speed... In the time when speed tanking was viable it was a very solid module layout for hit and run tanks.. But now with the way they naturally buffed all tank speed to crazy amounts compared to before? it's like every tank comes with them pre fitted. Logistical Vehicle Remote Repair Modules.. Largely didnt work out when put into spreadsheets. Logstic LAV's with the ability t repair your squads SHields was an amazing concept.. Sadly the way CCP did Logistic roles in general then was to give them ridiculous amounts of health... and bam they are a Logi.. Really it just needed logistic based bonuses not tanky based bonuses. Logistic dropship was the same issue. the concept around it reapiring other vehicles and offering support was awesome.. The problem with it is the CCP Shanghai curse with logistic balance and relevancy.. Where they just agve it a crap load of active health and BAM called it a "Logi" Black ops and enforcer tanks i have to agree with IWS.. Though they where awesome and cool. The only performed their role very rarely. But i feel this was more do to the slot loadout and bonuses.. But with the way the tank dynamic works now? it's hard to see a reason for a Marauder and Enforcer tank. Having a mobile CRU built into a tactical tank(Marauder) is pretty cool though, might even give a chance for a Red-lined team to come back.