DUST Search - Small vs large turrets

Murder Cake FTW wrote:

Small missiles **** in both av and ai. Theres a reason pyhtons with missiles r the fav of dropship piloits they r best at both. Small blasters need a buff against infantry i agree but they r what the other turrets should be like non suitable for vehicles and good vs infantry. A large missile and a large rail do good at killing tanks but u dont see them killing dropships or lavs of there same skill level.

And it was an idea wtf is ur problem?

If my large turret is suppose to only kill other vehicles which it barely dies as far as derpships or lavs go then why should small turrets be able to **** vehicles and infantry.

I do think small blasters need a buff vs infantry, i think small rails need better hit detection, and small missiles need a nerf overall ( either to direct damage or make them do less damage to vehicles).

Like i said small turrets should **** infantry but they should not do the same to vehicles.

This could easily be done be reducing the effectiveness of small turrets to vehicles to 20-30%.

I mean a small rail almost has same range as large rail almost same dps a tad lower and can be placed on a much faster and mobile platform.

And we could argue how large turrets really dont kill vehicles all tht well i mean lets be honest their damage is laughable. Other than the high alpha of missiles.

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Murder Cake FTW Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.06 03:38:00 - [1] - Quote i know a lot of you guys think large turrets should not work vs infantry or at least be limited at killing infantry. Then why should small turrets be effective at both. For example my small raill eats tanks for breakfast and infantry a like. Making small turrets only be effective vs infantry would help the balance of turrets. Does this not seem fair?
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4006	Posted - 2014.07.06 04:12:00 - [2] - Quote Your points are there but vague and weak A) Your small rail eats tanks for breakfast because it's probably on an Incubus and gets an RoF bonus. B) Small blasters absolutely suck at AV and AI C) Small Missiles are supposed to be good at both but not the best D) Large Missiles and Large Railguns mess up vehicles five times harder than a small rail E) WTF is your issue again? Seriously Large turrets are far better at killing infantry than small ones as of right now soo.... I will admit that 20GJ railguns eat infantry like there's no tomorrow I mean on the back of a methana there is no stopping ya The main issue I see is that Blasters can not compete at AV which they should be able to. Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 921	Posted - 2014.07.06 04:20:00 - [3] - Quote It should be effective against havs because there's no tank destroyer mavs to hunt and kill tanks. they need to stop lavs from blowing up instantly so a good driver and gunner can orbit a tank in a lav with a railguna and kill it. Like eve allows. this is why lavs should have a webifier too. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Murder Cake FTW Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:32:00 - [4] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Your points are there but vague and weak A) Your small rail eats tanks for breakfast because it's probably on an Incubus and gets an RoF bonus. B) Small blasters absolutely suck at AV and AI C) Small Missiles are supposed to be good at both but not the best D) Large Missiles and Large Railguns mess up vehicles five times harder than a small rail E) WTF is your issue again? Seriously Large turrets are far better at killing infantry than small ones as of right now soo.... I will admit that 20GJ railguns eat infantry like there's no tomorrow I mean on the back of a methana there is no stopping ya The main issue I see is that Blasters can not compete at AV which they should be able to. Small missiles ** in both av and ai. Theres a reason pyhtons with missiles r the fav of dropship piloits they r best at both. Small blasters need a buff against infantry i agree but they r what the other turrets should be like non suitable for vehicles and good vs infantry. A large missile and a large rail do good at killing tanks but u dont see them killing dropships or lavs of there same skill level. And it was an idea wtf is ur problem? If my large turret is suppose to only kill other vehicles which it barely dies as far as derpships or lavs go then why should small turrets be able to vehicles and infantry. I do think small blasters need a buff vs infantry, i think small rails need better hit detection, and small missiles need a nerf overall ( either to direct damage or make them do less damage to vehicles). Like i said small turrets should ** infantry but they should not do the same to vehicles. This could easily be done be reducing the effectiveness of small turrets to vehicles to 20-30%. I mean a small rail almost has same range as large rail almost same dps a tad lower and can be placed on a much faster and mobile platform. And we could argue how large turrets really dont kill vehicles all tht well i mean lets be honest their damage is laughable. Other than the high alpha of missiles.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4045	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:54:00 - [5] - Quote I agree to a certain extent, but then that nerfs DSes against HAVs. Spitballing here: what if an LAV or small HAV turrets dealt 70% damage to vehicles? So rather than just nerfing the things whichx affects DS pilots and gunners, just cut them for everything else. That opens up possibilities for AV focused LAVs and team-focused HAVs too. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10212	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:57:00 - [6] - Quote Murder Cake FTW wrote: i know a lot of you guys think large turrets should not work vs infantry or at least be limited at killing infantry. Then why should small turrets be effective at both. For example my small raill eats tanks for breakfast and infantry a like. Making small turrets only be effective vs infantry would help the balance of turrets. Does this not seem fair? Before I begin, is this a BobThe843CakeMan alt? Long Live The Anime Empire "You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio -HAND
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4009	Posted - 2014.07.06 07:15:00 - [7] - Quote Murder Cake FTW wrote: Small missiles ** in both av and ai. Theres a reason pyhtons with missiles r the fav of dropship piloits they r best at both. Small blasters need a buff against infantry i agree but they r what the other turrets should be like non suitable for vehicles and good vs infantry. A large missile and a large rail do good at killing tanks but u dont see them killing dropships or lavs of there same skill level. And it was an idea wtf is ur problem? If my large turret is suppose to only kill other vehicles which it barely dies as far as derpships or lavs go then why should small turrets be able to vehicles and infantry. I do think small blasters need a buff vs infantry, i think small rails need better hit detection, and small missiles need a nerf overall ( either to direct damage or make them do less damage to vehicles). Like i said small turrets should infantry but they should not do the same to vehicles. This could easily be done be reducing the effectiveness of small turrets to vehicles to 20-30%. I mean a small rail almost has same range as large rail almost same dps a tad lower and can be placed on a much faster and mobile platform. And we could argue how large turrets really dont kill vehicles all tht well i mean lets be honest their damage is laughable. Other than the high alpha of missiles. Python with missiles are the fave of ADS pilots because Missiles have splash and are thus easier to work with and Pythons get bonus to missiles. Small turrets need to be viable against vehicles because Dropships and LAVs. I am a Methana driver and a Grimsnes Pilot (I got incubus but I don't trust my broke ass controller) anyways small rails are fine as is same with missiles. Large missiles the only issue with them is the POV it's hard to hit targets with such little elevation on a HAV with missiles. Otherwise Large Missiles ** up installations and vehicles all together. No one said your large turret is only supposed to be against vehicles. Take the large blaster for example. That fucks up infantry. Small Rail turret has 77% efficiency on installations BTW so it's not like you're delivering the full payload. Secondly many vehicles are gimped by their turret size. LAVs and Dropships are only allowed to have small turrets. Forcing small turrets to be AI would be like telling dropships and LAVs that they can't fight back against an HAV which is asinine. Large turrets need some help yes but why do you have to drag small turrets and dropships and LAVs down with it? Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 80	Posted - 2014.07.06 09:12:00 - [8] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: It should be effective against havs because there's no tank destroyer mavs to hunt and kill tanks. they need to stop lavs from blowing up instantly so a good driver and gunner can orbit a tank in a lav with a railguna and kill it. Like eve allows. this is why lavs should have a webifier too. Me and another 'motorstorm' LAV driver can circle tanks all day with militia Balochs and railguns and still own a decent Madrugar or Gunlogi by getting the turret dizzied up. It's not hard, most tankers I see don't have enhanced turret turn speed.
Yokal Bob Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 509	Posted - 2014.07.06 12:31:00 - [9] - Quote I miss blaster turrets on dropships If its not anime, its not real
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3403	Posted - 2014.07.06 13:27:00 - [10] - Quote Large rails instakill infantry if you hit them. Small rails have less effect on vehicles as you maybe think vs shields the deal 77% damage and vs armor only 66%. The only reason why they still somehow work is the rate of fire.



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