DUST Search - It's very petty, but...about CPM1

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Seymour KrelbornX wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance.

Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast.

really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain...

Please explain how Kain Spero behaved in a self-serving manner while on the CPM.

From what I saw he was pushing for the removal of passive ISK, something from which his corporation benefited immensely.

That they continued to abuse it is no stain on his record. I am fully aware, for example, that the CalScout is blatantly OP. Even aside from its potential hitbox issues (which I'm not sold on for the record) its EWAR capability is a bit game breaking. I am of the opinion that it needs a good tweaking.

I skilled it anyway.

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gustavo acosta Tharumec 106	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:06:00 - [1] - Quote I refuse to vote for any candidate that has had any affiliation with DNS, by this I mean was in a corporation in said alliance during the reign of PC Farming...(Yes, I know. "way to hold a grudge," but what can you do?...) Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10198	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:19:00 - [2] - Quote If your willing to refuse a vote for a Candidate based on something as arbitrary as Corporation Tags, your vote probably wasn't that important in the first place, as it is the vote of an ignorant person. Though if you truly wish to withhold a vote from someone involved in the DNS Regime, it'd only be fair to refuse to vote for those who are in Corporations who caused it as well (pretty much every candidate who's corp is/was ever in MH.) Also Long Live The Anime* Empire* -HAND
gustavo acosta Tharumec 106	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:27:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: If your willing to refuse a vote for a Candidate based on something as arbitrary as Corporation Tags, your vote probably wasn't that important in the first place, as it is the vote of an ignorant person. Though if you truly wish to withhold a vote from someone involved in the DNS Regime, it'd only be fair to refuse to vote for those who are in Corporations who caused it as well (pretty much every candidate who's corp is/was ever in MH.) Also I prefer the term retrospective voter, I am still going to vote but not for candidates that you know kinda hurt the game in a big way...And if you don't like the manner in which I decide to vote you can go out find some other democratic system that suits you sweet, "It's only about the candidates positions on issues to get votes." Because these members of the game have decided to become candidates to represent the players of this game, then they should be prepared to have their history of this game reviewed... Also in politics votes of the ignorant are what win elections. Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10199	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:33:00 - [4] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: I prefer the term retrospective voter, I am still going to vote but not for candidates that you know kinda hurt the game in a big way...And if you don't like the manner in which I decide to vote you can go out find some other democratic system that suits you sweet, "It's only about the candidates positions on issues to get votes." Because these members of the game have decided to become candidates to represent the players of this game, then they should be prepared to have their history of this game reviewed... Also in politics votes of the ignorant are what win elections. I don't like or dislike the manner in which you vote, and quite frankly I don't care simply because I have no affiliations with any of the Candidates, and it's their job to earn your vote, not mine. I'm just here to inform you that your conforming to a Logical Fallacy. Long Live The Anime* Empire* -HAND
gustavo acosta Tharumec 107	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:54:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: I prefer the term retrospective voter, I am still going to vote but not for candidates that you know kinda hurt the game in a big way...And if you don't like the manner in which I decide to vote you can go out find some other democratic system that suits you sweet, "It's only about the candidates positions on issues to get votes." Because these members of the game have decided to become candidates to represent the players of this game, then they should be prepared to have their history of this game reviewed... Also in politics votes of the ignorant are what win elections. I don't like or dislike the manner in which you vote, and quite frankly I don't care simply because I have no affiliations with any of the Candidates, and it's their job to earn your vote, not mine. I'm just here to inform you that your conforming to a Logical Fallacy. Though while I'm here, I may as well ask: How exactly did DNS "hurt the game in a big way?" I understand that what I am doing is a fallacy. About the whole DNS, thing they helped completely destroy the economy of this game, which was in shambles to begin with. They made it so only a small amount of players could enjoy, and I mean enjoy, a feature this game. And, at least during their time, made the game in general unenjoyable. But, that's only my opinion... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3437	Posted - 2014.07.05 23:54:00 - [6] - Quote You mean that player driven economy that's run by npc's? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Klutch Cordova Direct Action Resources 12	Posted - 2014.07.06 00:01:00 - [7] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Also in politics votes of the ignorant are what win elections. Riveting tale, chap. Nobody's gonna stop YOU from pissing in the wind! Godspeed! Whether you're an assault or whether you're a heavy, you're stayin' alive, stayin' alive. It's "Klutch," not "Krutch."
gustavo acosta Tharumec 108	Posted - 2014.07.06 00:02:00 - [8] - Quote Klutch Cordova wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Also in politics votes of the ignorant are what win elections. Riveting tale, chap. Nobody's gonna stop YOU from pissing in the wind! Godspeed! I'd be gobsmacked if they did m8... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
gustavo acosta Tharumec 108	Posted - 2014.07.06 00:04:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: You mean that player driven economy that's run by npc's? I mean the "it was never meant to be,(sad face)" player economy... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
Klutch Cordova Direct Action Resources 12	Posted - 2014.07.06 00:04:00 - [10] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: I'd be gobsmacked if they did m8... As opposed to gobstopped? Now, I want candy. D: Whether you're an assault or whether you're a heavy, you're stayin' alive, stayin' alive. It's "Klutch," not "Krutch."

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15736	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:03:00 - [11] - Quote Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
gustavo acosta Tharumec 110	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:17:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. Good Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 323	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:24:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15738	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:38:00 - [14] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain... Well considering every suggestion kain made concerning PC was to break his own corp... if he should be traitor to anything it would be to DNS itself. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 920	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:43:00 - [15] - Quote Better dns members than people like iron wolf saber from cpm0 who should be buried and left out of the annals of NewEden history. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2014.07.06 01:57:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain... Well considering every suggestion kain made concerning PC was to break his own corp... if he should be traitor to anything it would be to DNS itself. his actions spoke louder than his suggestions....
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15746	Posted - 2014.07.06 10:01:00 - [17] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain... Well considering every suggestion kain made concerning PC was to break his own corp... if he should be traitor to anything it would be to DNS itself. his actions spoke louder than his suggestions.... You mean all those DNS nerfs weren't enough for your war room antic worthy of an insult group to defeat DNS hmmm... Also I fought him on every proposal just for the exercise of it and found a few issues every time that forced him to sit down and think about it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4048	Posted - 2014.07.06 11:28:00 - [18] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain... Please explain how Kain Spero behaved in a self-serving manner while on the CPM. From what I saw he was pushing for the removal of passive ISK, something from which his corporation benefited immensely. That they continued to abuse it is no stain on his record. I am fully aware, for example, that the CalScout is blatantly OP. Even aside from its potential hitbox issues (which I'm not sold on for the record) its EWAR capability is a bit game breaking. I am of the opinion that it needs a good tweaking. I skilled it anyway. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 35	Posted - 2014.07.06 11:48:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: If your willing to refuse a vote for a Candidate based on something as arbitrary as Corporation Tags, your vote probably wasn't that important in the first place, as it is the vote of an ignorant person. Though if you truly wish to withhold a vote from someone involved in the DNS Regime, it'd only be fair to refuse to vote for those who are in Corporations who caused it as well (pretty much every candidate who's corp is/was ever in MH.) Also I agree with him. They were and are terrible. Thankfully many left the game. I wish the rest would be gone. Except for Kain of course. What a scrub.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 338	Posted - 2014.07.06 12:13:00 - [20] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its still a very good idea to have a mix of candidates. If Dirt Nap is going to be a major player in the control of Molden Heath then by all means their best forerunner should have a fair chance. Once in the CPM it is important to know that self serving agendas get shot down REAL fast. really? then explain how kain spero remained a cpm.... he was almost exclusively self serving... still is.... you at least I cant accuse of being so obviously personal agenda driven, even though I think you're just as guilty as most of the cpm for betraying the community, none did it as blatant as kain... Please explain how Kain Spero behaved in a self-serving manner while on the CPM. From what I saw he was pushing for the removal of passive ISK, something from which his corporation benefited immensely. That they continued to abuse it is no stain on his record. I am fully aware, for example, that the CalScout is blatantly OP. Even aside from its potential hitbox issues (which I'm not sold on for the record) its EWAR capability is a bit game breaking. I am of the opinion that it needs a good tweaking. I skilled it anyway. I don't pretend to be privy to what went on behind closed doors... but from what I could see, I saw the leader of an alliance taking full advantage of exploitable mechanics whom also was a cpm... that to me looks all kinds of bad. I saw a guy who was doing an isk transfer system, while knowing dust was getting the ax.... I saw a guy constantly trying to single handedly take credit for work the entire cpm did in some of the ways he would spin his threads.... now I may be wrong about the guy, but in my experience if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......

THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 983	Posted - 2014.07.06 12:25:00 - [21] - Quote Hah. Looks like another guy who has no idea about specifics about what went down in DNS. One could assume "Oh everyone who was ever in DNS must be some ISK farming scrub" Have you done research into each corp to see which ones actually even owned land between their times in DNS? Do you even know the story behind why it all went to ****? Exactly. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5354	Posted - 2014.07.06 12:30:00 - [22] - Quote So you're going to vote for pub scrubs? I'm free! /o/
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 338	Posted - 2014.07.06 12:36:00 - [23] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Hah. Looks like another guy who has no idea about specifics about what went down in DNS. One could assume "Oh everyone who was ever in DNS must be some ISK farming scrub" Have you done research into each corp to see which ones actually even owned land between their times in DNS? Do you even know the story behind why it all went to ****? Exactly. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. it's true I'm going off appearences, theres no denying all that dns stuff looked bad to an outsider, was all as it seemed? I wont sit here and say it was, but I can only form an opinion off what I see.... if I'm wrong, I'm wrong....all I know is there were many opportunities for kain and dns to be better community members, and they seemed to fall short. you know there are lots of real world politicians that suffer the same ill fated public approval, because regardless of what they do in private, their public image betrays their true intentions.
gustavo acosta Tharumec 116	Posted - 2014.07.06 19:40:00 - [24] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Hah. Looks like another guy who has no idea about specifics about what went down in DNS. One could assume "Oh everyone who was ever in DNS must be some ISK farming scrub" Have you done research into each corp to see which ones actually even owned land between their times in DNS? Do you even know the story behind why it all went to ****? Exactly. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. I'm not saying everyone in DNS was an isk farming scrub, I just don't trust anyone that was associated with that organization for obvious reasons. I know "Just because DNS in general was bad doesn't mean everyone in DNS was bad," I get that. I don't need to know why, how, or who, all I NEED to know is that DNS made this game very unenjoyable and I refuse to vote for any candidate that could not help but be a part of said organization. Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
gustavo acosta Tharumec 116	Posted - 2014.07.06 19:41:00 - [25] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: So you're going to vote for pub scrubs? As far as I'm concerned EVERYONE is a public scrub...(But that's a good thang...) Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....


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