The only thing that I want in a game is balance of which that requires skill, and not a bunch of winers who can't deal with it themselves or a small group of people. I can not believe people who speak of encounters of a single tank that is impervious with more than two players targeting it. To me that simply implies just how incompetent they are. When tanks were 'OP' all you had to do was ignore them or get two AV guys to get it to screw off... yet nearly every AV player I saw thought it was a great idea to stand in front of the damn tank... and it's the same thing with an ADS when some idiot thinks that standing out in the open to get a clear shot is absolutely brilliant, and then complains when they die to missiles. The other thing I don't understand is why AV players think that proto tier weapons and equipment are needed to take down one vehicle. I find adv gear more than sufficient, and it only costs around 32,000 isk, compared to a 250,000 isk fitting.

Driving a LAV with remotes strapped to the front and ramming into a tank (a rather large target) requires no skill whatsoever, if you're a decent player that is...

Also, kamikazi dropships ramming into other dropships requires no skill, nor investment, which is the exact opposite of what a balanced and invested game suggests. The current damage that dropships suffer from colliding into structures/vehicles is ridiculous, and should toned down to the point where it's simply not viable, but still inflicts damage on a scale that makes the process utterly worthless.

If I wanted everything in this game to be cheap, then I'd have proxies detonate not only by vehicles, but infantry as well, and be free of all concerns of an actual fight.

It just surprises me how many people simply don't want a fight, or a challenge at that, in this game, or any game for that matter. The fact is that when people are given a simple and exploitable tactic to use, they will abuse it to no end, and not give a damn about the consequence that arises from it.

Why is it that you arrogantly assume that I myself have not partaken in this stupid act of suicide? Also, there is a difference between 'clean and fair' and following the rules of which this game was based on... investment... not exploitation, but CCP always leave so many holes in their work that questions their intelligence...

Proto Amarr Heavies are 3-4 shot at the least depending on they're configuration. Never one shotted.

Nah, bro. You see what happened was ...

AV was broken and HAVs were ridiculously overpowered. Pilots (in their infinite wisdom) insisted that everything was fine and refused to discuss the issues. In the end, Rattati and Logibro had to guess at solutions; I think they did a pretty good job. Atiim was in the right to point out balance problems; you (and many a bad player) were in the wrong to ignore those problems in hopes of safeguarding a winbutton.

That FG on that tower that can kill me in one clip because I gimped my fitting who is insanely hard to hit with a small turret at that distance. Infantry wanted a 1 to 1 ratio for tanks if 1 person can drive a tank 1 AV can kill them well now we have 1 tank+1 gunner being soloed by a guy on a roof top with a Forge Gun.

Yes Atiim I actually have tried both the gunning and driving aspect of tanks with gunners and even w/ maxed shield fitting op. maxed missile fitting op. lvl 4. armor fitting op. and lvl 3. fitting op. I can still barely fit 2 standard turrets on it. Yes if the FG is on the ground you can typically kill him but if he's properly positioned ut's much more difficult.