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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:49:00 -
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I just love when people say "blasters take skill now" The fact of the matter is it's now just a big shotgun with less range for kills you have to get up close and put the big circle over them. For long range (10m+) you have to put the circle over them and pray getting kills at all now is just dumb luck no skill required just put the big reticle around them at any range and hope hit something.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:51:00 -
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Dispersion is not a skill based mechanic.
Who suggested that?
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:59:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dispersion is not a skill based mechanic.
Who suggested that? If I wasn't so lazy I could probably quote mortedeamor.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:00:00 -
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Large HMG ?!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3942
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:03:00 -
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The first few shots have a lot less dispersion than the fourth onward, in my limited experience.
All things considered, if I take care with my shots I can still make them out to 50-60m. I think that's what Morte's referring to. Holding down the trigger no longer works. Gone are the days of 200m Scattered Ion kills, never to return.
The most important thing though is that I no longer feel like a scrub gibbing MLT noobs with a blaster :) I actually have a fitting for them nowadays :P
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:04:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dispersion is not a skill based mechanic.
Who suggested that?
Minimising the dispersion is arguably more skill-based, although it takes exactly the same form as minimising the dispersion on an AR, so it's not really challenging per se.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:10:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Large HMG ?!
HMG is tight little dispersion especially at proto tier and HMG is far more accurate and has more range.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:12:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The first few shots have a lot less dispersion than the fourth onward, in my limited experience.
All things considered, if I take care with my shots I can still make them out to 50-60m. I think that's what Morte's referring to. Holding down the trigger no longer works. Gone are the days of 200m Scattered Ion kills, never to return.
The most important thing though is that I no longer feel like a scrub gibbing MLT noobs with a blaster :) I actually have a fitting for them nowadays :P I too have limited use but with like the third shot becoming crazy disperse and such a slow rate it becomes less disperse I'd better hope theirs no cover for miles.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:41:00 -
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I thought dispersion was a patience mechanic, eventually youll hit.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:43:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The first few shots have a lot less dispersion than the fourth onward, in my limited experience.
All things considered, if I take care with my shots I can still make them out to 50-60m. I think that's what Morte's referring to. Holding down the trigger no longer works. Gone are the days of 200m Scattered Ion kills, never to return.
The most important thing though is that I no longer feel like a scrub gibbing MLT noobs with a blaster :) I actually have a fitting for them nowadays :P I too have limited use but with like the third shot becoming crazy disperse and such a slow rate it becomes less disperse I'd better hope theirs no cover for miles. I usually just use it like a Tac AR.
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought dispersion was a patience mechanic, eventually youll hit. No, you just need to be laser focused.
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Death Shadow117
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:50:00 -
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no its a big hmg get it right look at the reticule they used the hmg one.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
1992
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:59:00 -
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:04:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The first few shots have a lot less dispersion than the fourth onward, in my limited experience.
All things considered, if I take care with my shots I can still make them out to 50-60m. I think that's what Morte's referring to. Holding down the trigger no longer works. Gone are the days of 200m Scattered Ion kills, never to return.
The most important thing though is that I no longer feel like a scrub gibbing MLT noobs with a blaster :) I actually have a fitting for them nowadays :P I too have limited use but with like the third shot becoming crazy disperse and such a slow rate it becomes less disperse I'd better hope theirs no cover for miles. I usually just use it like a Tac AR. Yeah same. Confirmed you can feather and burst firing is the way to go on infantry?
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2989
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:57:00 -
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Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:35:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero.
Bullshit
Its totally random and down to luck if you hit
You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy
At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:59:00 -
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Ironyimation Inception wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought dispersion was a patience mechanic, eventually youll hit. No, you just need to be laser focused. Ha buuuuuuurn!
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:01:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:no its a big hmg get it right look at the reticule they used the hmg one. Then give me the accuracy of an HMG
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:04:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I just love when people say "blasters take skill now" The fact of the matter is it's now just a big shotgun with less range for kills you have to get up close and put the big circle over them. For long range (10m+) you have to put the circle over them and pray getting kills at all now is just dumb luck no skill required just put the big reticle around them at any range and hope hit something.
Still took more skill for me to snipe players at 150+m, with no dispersion, than it does for me to wreck that at 10.......
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:21:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again
I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate.
But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles!
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:46:00 -
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It's not that it takes more or less skill...
it's just more balanced now that you can't snipe players from 150 meters away with your invincible tank sitting on a hillside shooting into an objective.
You now have to actually be up close in the thick of it to do any good with a blaster turret.
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:47:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles!
Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol
Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol
Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck
Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:36:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles! Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time
Sure, soon as you make infantry immune to tank fire. The problem is you want immunity from small arms fire, durability against AV, high damage output and high accuracy. When those things get limited then the crying begins. You are one player, you should have the abilities of one player, you shouldn't be a one man team. Lets stand in a field, yoir blaster against my forge gun. You can get out of your tank and walk away and it will take me 3 or 4 shots, 10-15 seconds to kill your tank. Now I stand still, how long does it take you to kill me? 3 or 4 seconds even with the missing, yet you think you are getting short changed in this deal.
Because, that's why.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2995
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:51:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles! Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time
Are you accussing me of cheating? Or are we tarring all infantry with the same brush? Why would you use Proto Modded Tanks in a pub? Are you that bad? Burst firing is at LEAST 3 or 5 before the dispersion becomes limiting, what's the problem it take less than a half dozen shots to kill most light and medium suits, that's 2 bursts, how can you not manage that?
Considering all 4 racial rifles, all but 1 sidearm and the HMG have copious amounts of dispersion (and kick) we already have that, and it's exactly why a large blaster shouldn't have the accuracy of a sniper rifle.
Finally Rattati himself said that the Large Blaster turret was never intended to be anti-infantry. So do you disagree with him? Why?
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3946
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Posted - 2014.07.04 01:17:00 -
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Fuck it; I'm going to deal with this like a sensible human being.
I'm goin to ram every single blue LAV I see; that way I know when an LAV goes past no matter its colour it needs to die. That way there'll be no more confusion and lost ISK from mixing up red and blue LAVs.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
1994
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:20:00 -
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:31:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:45:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles! Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time Are you accussing me of cheating? Or are we tarring all infantry with the same brush? Why would you use Proto Modded Tanks in a pub? Are you that bad? Burst firing is at LEAST 3 or 5 before the dispersion becomes limiting, what's the problem it take less than a half dozen shots to kill most light and medium suits, that's 2 bursts, how can you not manage that? Considering all 4 racial rifles, all but 1 sidearm and the HMG have copious amounts of dispersion (and kick) we already have that, and it's exactly why a large blaster shouldn't have the accuracy of a sniper rifle. Finally Rattati himself said that the Large Blaster turret was never intended to be anti-infantry. So do you disagree with him? Why?
You tar all vehicle pilots with the same brush
Why would you use a proto modded dropsuit in a pub? are you that bad?
Burst 3-5, dispersion comes after the 1st shot, light and medium suits are getting more and more tanked so they have hp of 500+ not too mention if your shots dont land then dont lose hp and bunny hop away know you cannot hit them
Considering all racial rifles/sidearm and HMG are all more accurate than the blaster and have more range
If turrets are not anti infantry then how do i protect my tank for the 1 AV guy who can kill a tank? |
Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:48:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Who said skill? It's more like balanced, you can still hit people with it, with a good form or reliability, provided you don't just sit there and spray like an overpayed action hero. Bullshit Its totally random and down to luck if you hit You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles! Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time Sure, soon as you make infantry immune to tank fire. The problem is you want immunity from small arms fire, durability against AV, high damage output and high accuracy. When those things get limited then the crying begins. You are one player, you should have the abilities of one player, you shouldn't be a one man team. Lets stand in a field, yoir blaster against my forge gun. You can get out of your tank and walk away and it will take me 3 or 4 shots, 10-15 seconds to kill your tank. Now I stand still, how long does it take you to kill me? 3 or 4 seconds even with the missing, yet you think you are getting short changed in this deal.
Immunity from small arms fire - Its a tank
Durability against AV - When we only have basic hulls against proto AV damn right i want to survive or i get adv/proto hulls
High damage output - Large turret bigger than anything infantry have it should do more damage
High accuracy - Railgun has it
Blaster against FG, you will land every shot i wont because lolluck
Vehicles have got short changed, less hulls, less slots, less mods, less skills, less turrets |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3008
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:10:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:
Bullshit
Its totally random and down to luck if you hit
You basically have to be within 5m or less or you wont hit, a heavy with a HMG has more range and accuracy
At least back in the day if my dot landed on infantry there were as good as dead, now its luck but of course those who dont use vehicles think its fine yet again
I call Bullshit on your bullshit, why? Because the first thing I did is go out and extensively test it, if you actually burst your fire as opposed to just sitting there with your finger on the trigger like arnold shwarzeneggar, it's still pretty damn accurate. But that's just tankers as usual thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with them doesn't use vehicles! Infantry saying burst fire when they use modded controllers to full auto semi weapons lol Infantry who use militia vehicles in pubs lol Burst fire with a blaster is firing 1 shot, because any more shots after automatically miss because its luck Infantry think the blaster is fine, lets give all infantry weapons 1 accurate shot and all shots after will miss all the time Are you accussing me of cheating? Or are we tarring all infantry with the same brush? Why would you use Proto Modded Tanks in a pub? Are you that bad? Burst firing is at LEAST 3 or 5 before the dispersion becomes limiting, what's the problem it take less than a half dozen shots to kill most light and medium suits, that's 2 bursts, how can you not manage that? Considering all 4 racial rifles, all but 1 sidearm and the HMG have copious amounts of dispersion (and kick) we already have that, and it's exactly why a large blaster shouldn't have the accuracy of a sniper rifle. Finally Rattati himself said that the Large Blaster turret was never intended to be anti-infantry. So do you disagree with him? Why? You tar all vehicle pilots with the same brush Why would you use a proto modded dropsuit in a pub? are you that bad? Burst 3-5, dispersion comes after the 1st shot, light and medium suits are getting more and more tanked so they have hp of 500+ not too mention if your shots dont land then dont lose hp and bunny hop away know you cannot hit them Considering all racial rifles/sidearm and HMG are all more accurate than the blaster and have more range If turrets are not anti infantry then how do i protect my tank for the 1 AV guy who can kill a tank?
No, I have perfectly civilised discussions, with Judge, True Adamance and many others besides, I only tar you and spkr with your special brush, I'm starting to remember why.
I don't use proto modded in pubs, I'm not that bad. I use advanced at most, though my usual fit is a standard suit.
3-5 shots disperse slower enough to hit most units with regularity, 6 shots kill most targets, what's the matter? Or is it because you can't aim?
Yet we have never had absolute PERFECT accuracy, and once again we are meant to be shooting infantry, your large blaster is not.
Your gonna love this, a small turret or an infantry escort as has been suggested by Rattati, Infantry AV is weak to Infantry, so you send a guy with a rifle to kill the guy with a swarm launcher, then you are free to roam.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:16:00 -
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Jillic wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:*makes a parking garage of Guristas Lavs while in squad with Lorhak* ~Assists with Ishukone Watch LAVs~ ooh I have blood raider ones!
now we need to find someone with the Angel Cartel LAVs...
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:47:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I just love when people say "blasters take skill now" The fact of the matter is it's now just a big shotgun with less range for kills you have to get up close and put the big circle over them. For long range (10m+) you have to put the circle over them and pray getting kills at all now is just dumb luck no skill required just put the big reticle around them at any range and hope hit something.
That's like a heavy claiming they have the best long range aim... there is a ceiling for how effective it can be at what it isn't designed to do.
It's the rock, paper, scissors... thing.
If you want to pinpoint infantry jump in a railgun tank.. you can effectively sniper well with it at 300m and have a giant armored shell around you and increased mobility.
If you want to take an aggressive role against entrenched AV infantry with a Blaster Tank... It will be alot of praying they screw up. ORRRRR you can get some infantry team mates and have them flank or push while you provide cover fire and keep tank pressure off them.
Tanking in DUST beta's always was largely a squad effort.. if you didn't have some support removing AV.. You died. with a 1-3 Million dollar tank.
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:05:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
No, I have perfectly civilised discussions, with Judge, True Adamance and many others besides, I only tar you and spkr with your special brush, I'm starting to remember why.
I don't use proto modded in pubs, I'm not that bad. I use advanced at most, though my usual fit is a standard suit.
3-5 shots disperse slower enough to hit most units with regularity, 6 shots kill most targets, what's the matter? Or is it because you can't aim?
Yet we have never had absolute PERFECT accuracy, and once again we are meant to be shooting infantry, your large blaster is not.
Your gonna love this, a small turret or an infantry escort as has been suggested by Rattati, Infantry AV is weak to Infantry, so you send a guy with a rifle to kill the guy with a swarm launcher, then you are free to roam.
Judge isnt a pilot, hes terrible and doesnt even pilot in PC and quits pub matches if anyone on the other side has a chance of killing him which isnt hard to do
I cant aim lol, i can aim its how i got my kills with the blaster, you see you didnt get kills if the tiny small little dot wasnt on your target, now you have the big ******* circle which means you wont hit because we have random bullet spread for blasters and its down to luck if you actually hit something
Lets use a small turret if i can fit it on the vehicle if i have enough CPU/PG left without having to dumb down the tank in some way and then it also makes it a 2man tank in which 1 AV person can destroy it, so once again if i have to protect my tank i now need a 2nd person because i can no longer do that myself |
Jillic
Unlubricated RapeTrain
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Posted - 2014.07.05 01:26:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Jillic wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:*makes a parking garage of Guristas Lavs while in squad with Lorhak* ~Assists with Ishukone Watch LAVs~ ooh I have blood raider ones! now we need to find someone with the Angel Cartel LAVs... best Skwad EVAR!!!!
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Keikaku
I am everyones Alt.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:43:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I just love when people say "blasters take skill now" The fact of the matter is it's now just a big shotgun with less range for kills you have to get up close and put the big circle over them. For long range (10m+) you have to put the circle over them and pray getting kills at all now is just dumb luck no skill required just put the big reticle around them at any range and hope hit something.
Not irony.
Fallacy.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:50:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:It's not that it takes more or less skill...
it's just more balanced now that you can't snipe players from 150 meters away with your invincible tank sitting on a hillside shooting into an objective.
You now have to actually be up close in the thick of it to do any good with a blaster turret.
Which puts them into the range of AV grenades, and gives Swarms a better chance to pop them.
I think tanks are pretty decent from an infantry standpoint. If you get too close, we can wreck you. Keep your distance and suppress us. Tanks are supposed to be Primary AV, secondary infantry.
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Random Redberry
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:57:00 -
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pls fa join my corp pls
i got left as ceo what do? pls join
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