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pa ck
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.03 13:56:00 -
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The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.
Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.
Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem.
I'd like that. The two points that should make an assault stand out from a scout is their regen and hp. more health/regen fits in with the assault role nicely, they can hit a position well and keep the momentum of the assault. Maybe another equipment slot to also emphasize versatility but keep the pg/cpu similar, buff it a little so they can actually put something there but not so much that they start encroaching on logistics territory. Good tank, good weapons, decent equipment, good mobility and excellent regen.
scouts get the advantage of speed and ewar and shouldn't be so close to the assault suit and its roles. Instead they should supplement each other.
Lone Wolf -Assault CK.0
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NAV HIV
The Generals
1852
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:20:00 -
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You die a lot :) |
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5336
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:25:00 -
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I can hit Scouts just fine.
I'm free!
/o/
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
538
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Posted - 2014.07.03 15:19:00 -
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The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
410
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Posted - 2014.07.03 15:45:00 -
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Only cal scout has a bad hit detection,leave the others scouts out I will not side with gallente that's someone else's chose
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
788
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:35:00 -
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im saveing all my SP for a caldari scout if they don't fix the assault suit in the next patch i leaveing my assault suit which i have been in for my whole dust life.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
968
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:49:00 -
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tl;dr - I haz bad aim
-XD
Where I'll be - Destiny Alpha Montage - XD
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
32
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:14:00 -
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A friend has said me a solution (I think)
Ban shield extender and armor plates for scouts, and give them +/- 350HP (total) life on the scout fit.
Example :
- Minmatar : 330HP
- Caldari : 340HP
- Gallente : 350HP
- Amarr : 360HP
=> they already have enought life for a REAL scout job. I'm a Caldari scout, at the moment, on my proto fit, I've 308HP + 87HP, that's enought... On my Adv, I've +/-265HP shield 87HP armor. That's correct.
Nerf the gallente's passive armor repair.
Give the 3HP/s to Assault (Gallente)
Give 2HP/s to Gallente Scout
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3957
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:46:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Shut up.
Fixing Scouts can is not a one hit hammer problem. There are multiple problems with the Scout Suits but a solution certainly isn't to Give scouts two side arms
1. The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.
2. Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.
3. Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem.
You plagiarized Sgt. Kirk and added your own conclusion what do you have to say for yourself?
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
539
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:59:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:A friend has said me a solution (I think) Ban shield extender and armor plates for scouts, and give them +/- 350HP (total) life on the scout fit. Example : - Minmatar : 330HP - Caldari : 340HP - Gallente : 350HP - Amarr : 360HP => they already have enought life for a REAL scout job. I'm a Caldari scout, at the moment, on my proto fit, I've 308HP + 87HP, that's enought... On my Adv, I've +/-265HP shield 87HP armor. That's correct. Nerf the gallente's passive armor repair. Give the 3HP/s to Assault (Gallente) Give 2HP/s to Gallente Scout That's Ok for me
So sorry
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Spaceman-Rob
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
431
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:04:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along.
This. |
pa ck
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
49
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Posted - 2014.07.04 04:42:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Shut up.
Fixing Scouts can is not a one hit hammer problem. There are multiple problems with the Scout Suits but a solution certainly isn't to Give scouts two side arms
1. The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.
2. Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.
3. Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem. You plagiarized Sgt. Kirk and added your own conclusion what do you have to say for yourself?
Thats why i said from the community
Lone Wolf -Assault CK.0 Scout CK.0
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10632
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Posted - 2014.07.04 04:53:00 -
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Two things:
A. Yes hit detection is terribad, this has nothing to do with the removal of the slow down.
When a Caldari scout has no armor left, I empty a full Duvolle clip into him, and not a single shot hits, I think something is wrong here. (And plenty of armor hit sounds)
B. If a scout has even 2/3rd's the HP of an Assault, it's too far. They have complete EWAR and Speed superiority, they can attack whenever they damn please and we can't do anything about it. Range dictation and waiting for the optimal time to strike AND high HP?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3980
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Posted - 2014.07.04 04:59:00 -
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pa ck wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Shut up.
Fixing Scouts can is not a one hit hammer problem. There are multiple problems with the Scout Suits but a solution certainly isn't to Give scouts two side arms
1. The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.
2. Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.
3. Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem. You plagiarized Sgt. Kirk and added your own conclusion what do you have to say for yourself? Thats why i said from the community
It says Form the community and you added your own conclusion
as if two people were the whole of the community
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3410
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:28:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Shut up.
Fixing Scouts can is not a one hit hammer problem. There are multiple problems with the Scout Suits but a solution certainly isn't to Give scouts two side arms
1. The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.
2. Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.
3. Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem. You plagiarized Sgt. Kirk and added your own conclusion what do you have to say for yourself?
He's a potato pilot he can't help it
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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VAHZZ
Gallente Federation
444
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:35:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along.
The first part of your comment i admire and acknowledge your attempt to put some sense into the poor guy.
The last part, you shut your dirty mouth. Or do i need remind you of the AR days, when militia AR's slaughtered every scout fatty and minja that laid in it's wake. Countless clones going down in blood and lead.
You wish for the AR genocide to return!?
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling
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Proud Sniper Scout
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
539
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Posted - 2014.07.04 12:13:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Master Smurf wrote:The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along. The first part of your comment i admire and acknowledge your attempt to put some sense into the poor guy. The last part, you shut your dirty mouth. Or do i need remind you of the AR days, when militia AR's slaughtered every scout fatty and minja that laid in it's wake. Countless clones going down in blood and lead. You wish for the AR genocide to return!?
Assault Suits - not rifles
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
792
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:17:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Master Smurf wrote:The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along. The first part of your comment i admire and acknowledge your attempt to put some sense into the poor guy. The last part, you shut your dirty mouth. Or do i need remind you of the AR days, when militia AR's slaughtered every scout fatty and minja that laid in it's wake. Countless clones going down in blood and lead. You wish for the AR genocide to return!? assault dropsuits to be buffed
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2083
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:22:00 -
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Now that we have Aim assist.
And every scout suit has been tweaked.
Can we just remove the Different hitbox sizes on racial scout suits?
There is no need for Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar and Galente to have different sized hitboxes on scout suit anymore.
It would be nice to see them standardized.
And then all the suits hitbox sizes retweaked. Minmatar heavy and assaults get smaller size imo.. But that can be another discussion. Baby steps and start with scouts in a hotfix. |
VAHZZ
447
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:38:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Master Smurf wrote:The slowdown effect has been turned off so now you guys need to aim better than allowing the system to keep said scout in place for you to hose them.
Assaults are going to be buffed.
Nothing to see here - move along. The first part of your comment i admire and acknowledge your attempt to put some sense into the poor guy. The last part, you shut your dirty mouth. Or do i need remind you of the AR days, when militia AR's slaughtered every scout fatty and minja that laid in it's wake. Countless clones going down in blood and lead. You wish for the AR genocide to return!? Assault Suits - not rifles
Now you should have been more clear.
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling
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Proud Sniper Scout
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