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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:38:00 -
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has really made me feel like the amarrians are the only race with a valid assault..
the scr and lr shine above and beyond on the amar assault..unlike the other races assaults with they're rifles |
Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514
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Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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i think they just need to fix some variant racial bonus and addition to this add more PG and CPU to other race |
Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 LOL |
Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
1776
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 the amar commando has a niche vs the amar assault...
but the amar assault has its own nich as well
im not saying the other racial commandos arent good
im saying that the other racial assaults are not
..the amar assault has a clear defined niche as does the amar commando yet neither makes the other obsolete because the amar assault works..where as the other assaults do not.
the amar assault is also the only assault that has a bonus that directly effects weapon performance...that is constant when in battle...the amar heat cost
the scr and lr are ridiculously better on the amar assault than any other suit...running anything other than amar rifles on the amar assault is insane...
the cr and rr shine on any suit,,,,and the assaults for the minnie and cal troops just dont seem to have it...
i think the gallente might but i dont have it so i cant say.
i wish we could ask someone who had all the racial assault variants....oh wait
regynum die does..maybe he would know....:/ just seems to me as if the amar assault shines in a way that the others dont
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4th Lieutenant Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:10:00 -
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Matari assault dat strafe.
The one and only Lieutenant Tiberius
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Schecter 666
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:40:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:has really made me feel like the amarrians are the only race with a valid assault..
the scr and lr shine above and beyond on the amar assault..unlike the other races assaults with they're rifles
YUP, 120m charge shot with the viziam all day every day.
i don't have a proto suit but i feel like a god with 2 complex damage mods and prof 5 viziam, so beasty, don't ever nerf it.
because unlike the rail rifle which has LESS range you actually have to be skilled not some spammy little scrub.
keep fighting the good fight and ignore my one-eyed minmatar alt! |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
1233
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:16:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:has really made me feel like the amarrians are the only race with a valid assault..
the scr and lr shine above and beyond on the amar assault..unlike the other races assaults with they're rifles
While I totally agree with you, let us not forget that those same weapons - while still sort of viable on other suits, tend to 'suck' a little when not on the Amarr Assault. No other weapons have that issue.
(Kinda defending the bonuses for Amarr Assault, would like to see the other races have racial flavour type bonuses too.)
Investigate 9/11
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
1233
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:18:00 -
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Schecter 666 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:has really made me feel like the amarrians are the only race with a valid assault..
the scr and lr shine above and beyond on the amar assault..unlike the other races assaults with they're rifles YUP, 120m charge shot with the viziam all day every day. i don't have a proto suit but i feel like a god with 2 complex damage mods and prof 5 viziam, so beasty, don't ever nerf it. because unlike the rail rifle which has LESS range you actually have to be skilled not some spammy little scrub. keep fighting the good fight and ignore my one-eyed minmatar alt!
Mate, the rail rifle out ranges the scrambler.
That's not to say that the charge shots can't reach out, but dont be fooled into thinking that the rail rifle isn't the longest range assault type rifle.
Investigate 9/11
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
335
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 LOL @ you
Scr and commando enthusiast.
A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life...
"The only thing to fear is fear itself"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:33:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 LOL @ you
#Commandosknowbetter
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8692
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 Not even close.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Vicious Minotaur
1030
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:48:00 -
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Indeed.
The suit, now that it has reasonable slot amounts, is nice in and of itself. An ADV suit with over 400 armour repping at ~19 HP/s? Not bad, especially when you are using long ranged weapons... like the ones that are buffed by the nice racial bonus. LR, SCR are already deadly, but sustainable damage makes them all the better (especially if you don't have an aim like a pro).
The Caldari/Gallente suits are nice in and of themselves, but are held back by lackluster racial bonuses. (that reload bonus on Caldari is boring and overlaps with Commando, don't even try to deny it)
The Minmatar assault though, has a terrible suit (bad slot layout, bad shield stats, bad resources...) BUT has a very nice racial bonus. 100 round assault SMG? ~80 round assault CR? Nice. Still, a bad suit is a bad suit, even with a nice bonus.
My Amarr alt at least gets the only assault suit that is both decent in and of itself AND has decent bonuses. This account, and my Caldari&Gallente alts are SOL as far as assaults are concerned.
I am a minotaur.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:51:00 -
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Amarr assault is definitely by far the best assault.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8692
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:58:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Amarr assault is definitely by far the best assault. It's the only race that has weapons with a non-generic mechanic that it makes sense to give a bonus.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11502
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:59:00 -
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I am standing there as missiles explode around me, as bullets ricochet of the ruined hull of my nearby HAV.
I am surrounded...... by enemies.
They do nothing but stare at me, they look me up and down regarding my weak dropsuit and flesh....with some kind of filthy Matari hunger. Their gaze makes my skill crawl.
I scream at them to stop, fire my lasers, cut them down......but they reform as if shadows. As they slowly close in on me I realise with horror that the burning hull of the HAV is of Amarrian design....... its the first and only prototype of the Amarr tank........
I scream in horror!
But the dream does not end there. The filthy heathens attack, blotting out the light. When I come to I am in a chair, they duct tape my eyes open...OH THE HORROR!
And force me to watch a Gallentean director known as Michael Bay direct a fourth ****** movie about transforming robots....as I think it can't get any worse they introduce an new Transformer that is my Amarrian HAV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wake up screaming every time.
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:13:00 -
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If they made it so say rail weapons had spool up between each shot (of course with extra damage to compensate), plasma weapons did small amounts of self-damage per shot (of course with extra damage to compensate), and perhaps projectiles exploded on contact (say with less damage to compensate) then you could give the other assaults bonuses like reduced spool up time, reduced feedback damage, and increase explosion radius.
But that's just the thing, the other non-laser weapons don't have any interesting mechanics, they are all for the most part very generic weapons in function and only interesting in description/appearance.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
466
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 Not even close.
Maybe not the best but a strong contender even to your precious Ammando Goldie .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11502
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:29:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 Not even close. Maybe not the best but a strong contender even to your precious Ammando Goldie .
You DARE CALL THE AMARR COMMANDO THE "AMMANDO" AS IF WE WERE SOME KIND OF FILTHY SCOUT SCRUB?!
GET OUT OF MY SIGHT MATARI PEASANT!
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
466
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Gelan Corbaine wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 Not even close. Maybe not the best but a strong contender even to your precious Ammando Goldie . You DARE CALL THE AMARR COMMANDO THE "AMMANDO" AS IF WE WERE SOME KIND OF FILTHY SCOUT SCRUB?! GET OUT OF MY SIGHT MATARI PEASANT!
Aggravating you always brings a warmth to my rusty heart Goldboy .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11509
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Posted - 2014.07.02 23:23:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gelan Corbaine wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Matari Commando = Best Suit in DUST 514 Not even close. Maybe not the best but a strong contender even to your precious Ammando Goldie . You DARE CALL THE AMARR COMMANDO THE "AMMANDO" AS IF WE WERE SOME KIND OF FILTHY SCOUT SCRUB?! GET OUT OF MY SIGHT MATARI PEASANT! Aggravating you always brings a warmth to my rusty heart Goldboy .
I was hoping for a
"Dost thou even know how to ploweth a field, Mi'lord?"
"Cans't thou raiseth a barn Sir?"
or the ever classic
"Calm thyself and sitteth down Your Grace."
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
1779
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Posted - 2014.07.02 23:33:00 -
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i certainly cannot do any of those things..but i know how to handle a whip nicely. (for reals)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11509
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Posted - 2014.07.02 23:35:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i certainly cannot do any of those things..but i know how to handle a whip nicely. (for reals)
That both awesome and a little scary.
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8699
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Posted - 2014.07.03 00:59:00 -
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Minmatar Commando is definitely the second best Commando, but Amarr Commando blows it out of the park. I have all commandos proto.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
5203
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Posted - 2014.07.03 01:22:00 -
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Ok, imma settle the amarr commando is better than all thing,
Amarr commando IN GENERAL is best,however, each commando has it's ideal terrain, gallente - map structures (research facility, orbital complex), amarr - any map with lots of open space, Caldari - any map where you can find a solid perch, matari - a cross between all 3
Plus with the proper setup, any commando can beat any commando so idk why you are all arguing
PSN: jcptmo8055
Long live commandos
CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11519
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Posted - 2014.07.03 01:23:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ok, imma settle the amarr commando is better than all thing,
Amarr commando IN GENERAL is best,however, each commando has it's ideal terrain, gallente - map structures (research facility, orbital complex), amarr - any map with lots of open space, Caldari - any map where you can find a solid perch, matari - a cross between all 3
Plus with the proper setup, any commando can beat any commando so idk why you are all arguing
Our God OMNIMANDOTRON has spoken!
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
5203
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Posted - 2014.07.03 01:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ok, imma settle the amarr commando is better than all thing,
Amarr commando IN GENERAL is best,however, each commando has it's ideal terrain, gallente - map structures (research facility, orbital complex), amarr - any map with lots of open space, Caldari - any map where you can find a solid perch, matari - a cross between all 3
Plus with the proper setup, any commando can beat any commando so idk why you are all arguing Our God OMNIMANDOTRON has spoken! Haha well I'm proof of this, if you just play smart and dictate the terms of your engagement, you can successfully kick-@$$ in any commando. The amarr is best because it's a solid platform for newberries and vets to take up commandos (easiest to get the hang of)
I've found recently I'm being drawn to a rep tanked Galmando (although a regen tanked amarr commando does steal the show)
PSN: jcptmo8055
Long live commandos
CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11521
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Posted - 2014.07.03 01:39:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ok, imma settle the amarr commando is better than all thing,
Amarr commando IN GENERAL is best,however, each commando has it's ideal terrain, gallente - map structures (research facility, orbital complex), amarr - any map with lots of open space, Caldari - any map where you can find a solid perch, matari - a cross between all 3
Plus with the proper setup, any commando can beat any commando so idk why you are all arguing Our God OMNIMANDOTRON has spoken! Haha well I'm proof of this, if you just play smart and dictate the terms of your engagement, you can successfully kick-@$$ in any commando. The amarr is best because it's a solid platform for newberries and vets to take up commandos (easiest to get the hang of) I've found recently I'm being drawn to a rep tanked Galmando (although a regen tanked amarr commando does steal the show)
I actually recommended the Rep Tanked Gall Commando to a new player the other day.
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4131
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Posted - 2014.07.03 02:47:00 -
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In their current state:
ALL Assaults need 2 more Slots. 1 High, 1 Low.
Or
Vast improvements to Racial Bonuses in the form of Survivability (Rep, Regen, etc.) and DPS Bonuses associated with their Racial Variant Weapons.
Or
Improved Base Stats. More Armor and Shields and better Regeneration Rates associated with the Racial Profiles.
Not ALL, or any combination, of them if you're taking notes Mr RatTitty.
(gK.0 Assault Part-Timer)
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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deezy dabest
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
715
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Posted - 2014.07.03 04:28:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:has really made me feel like the amarrians are the only race with a valid assault.. the scr and lr shine above and beyond on the amar assault..unlike the other races assaults with they're rifles
Glad to see you catching up. It's okay there are others still in denial as well.
There is nothing better than one shotting cal scouts before they even know you are there.
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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