DUST Search - I now (re)realise why people use thales in pubs.

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Cenex Langly wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls.

Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion)

Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing.

Dude, you're sitting 600 meters away from all of the action without a worry in the world, with no one to sneak up on you and blast you in the head and yet you're complaining about not being able to kill people better...

I hope your tears fill a lake dude man bro because sniping is for players who are lazy and/or suck at killing.

And, just to be fair, there are only two times to snipe. The first is to counter snipe some noob. The second is to kill anyone who thinks they are clever going on high ground.

Which brings me to a completely unrelated point... actually two points.

What's the deal with all these Latin corps popping up out of no where and why do they ALWAYS feel the need to get on high ground (new forum post about this later) or fly up to the top of a building to fight. YOU'LL NEVER WIN THAT WAY... EVER...

And why do all these Latin corps feel the need to name their corp with their country name. WTF is that all about. No body else does this... It's seriously annoying.

You made so many presumptions about my playstyle and presumptions/nasty remarks about a specific group of people I don't know where to start.

Are these the people dark legion recruits, that's......slightly sad.

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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 6187	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:20:00 - [1] - Quote Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 595	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:44:00 - [2] - Quote Meh. I'm at most a casual sniper but I think it's fine. Run a Commando with CR/SR and I do just fine with it.
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:49:00 - [3] - Quote Thought DNS had quit already... Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
I-Shayz-I I----------I 3852	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:50:00 - [4] - Quote Normal sniper rifle: -Barely enough damage to kill with a full clip (5 shots) -Standard zoom -Players react after first shot, making following shots harder to land Thales -Enough damage to 1-shot most suits (especially with damage mods) -Increased zoom for better accuracy and easier time lining up shots (less sensitive) -A dead player can't react 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1546	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:53:00 - [5] - Quote Closest thing to a SR I've ever used is mah trusty breach forge and it has ZERO issues putting scum in their proper place Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Vicious Minotaur 1025	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:00:00 - [6] - Quote Low-end sniping is garbage. I can murder with my low SP invested, low end CR, or mlt SMG, or my recruiter AR, or.... Whatever other low end weapon. With snipers, it's proto, or go home. Pretty sure anybody who thinks things are fine for snipers overall are the ones who have fully proto'd out suits with proficiency ~5 AND stacked complex damage mods. Snipers, along with shotguns (and others?) have not kept up with the increasing eHP values. Don't expect change anytime soon, with all the hate (which is intertwined with the redline). I am a minotaur.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 6189	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:09:00 - [7] - Quote danie braz wrote: Thought DNS had quit already... If you'd like to post something relevant to the subject matter I'd be happy to read/reply, my alignment with my alliance however has nothing to do with sniping. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Atiim Fooly Cooly. 10114	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:18:00 - [8] - Quote Sniping used to be okay (besides the hit detection), but ever since the 50% damage modifier nerf it's been garbage even at PRO. Though apparently people are okay with Sniper Rifles only being able to kill people in 3-4 shots (most of the clip), and only being viable on a Commando and/or with Proficiency Skills. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 621	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:39:00 - [9] - Quote I rarely pick up a sniper rifle, but I've never really had a problem with it myself. Just using an advanced tac rifle on a Min scout, no damage mods, though... I suppose I usually only use it for counter sniping, so it's not quite the same. I think this is just as much of a problem though to do with the fact that people don't use anything besides health mods in most cases. Armor and shield are still the way to go more often than not, things like damage mods and E-War modules are rarely used outside of scouts, so everyone has crazy high HP values. As much as I want to see roles balanced in this game though, I'd rather not see people given more of a reason to camp in the redline. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2380	Posted - 2014.07.02 05:25:00 - [10] - Quote I would not use it if they give us more zoom, Thale damage output is very good, but a charge SR is good too and there will be no risk to waste a officer weapon. Unfortunately CCP has decided that we have to ruin our eyes till proficiency 3. INB4 Tac SR, the zoom isn't even comparable to the Thale. PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.

Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 141	Posted - 2014.07.02 06:45:00 - [11] - Quote Yes, sniper's need some love. particularly with higher damage, better/adjustable zoom, better perches and a MAJOR hit detection fix....once took me 4 headshots to down a starter fit sniper with my charge because the hits weren't registering. And yes, all the qq on snipers comes purely because of the redline or occassional mcc sniper and probably 80% of the time I shoot from the redline is either because my area of engagement would be too close to reliably track a target or that just happens to be the best spot at the moment, 15% my team got pushed into the redline and there's no supply depot left nearby to swap fits or there's multiple tanks/ads charging into the redline n it's just not safe to try period and the rest is just when i feel like trolling some stompers because I can, just picturing their reactions at an npc corp player (automaticly considered noob due to this) kills them makes me giggle. Oh, and my sniper suit? It's a mlt gal light frame with only 1 std plate an adv pe, std cardiac reg on it, i'm not difficult to counter snipe. what i think of when charging fg
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 913	Posted - 2014.07.02 06:58:00 - [12] - Quote you didnt quit sinboto? haven't seen you on here in a long time. and i agree, i've never tried a thales but i have advanced unlocked and they've always been garbage. its not solely the sniper rifles fault. as far as i know nothing on this front has changed since march but there were rendering issues, sensitivity issues with trying to aim and lag. then on the rifle itself they're underpowered, have no zoom, and the scope sway is ridiculous unless your crouching which means you cant be that mobile because you have to stop crouch and toggle the sway. if they want to improve sniping they need to look at bad company 2. redline isnt a problem itself but the maps are too small. the redline is too close to the action so snipers can sit there the entire match and snipe. in bf the matches move or the redline is so far back its benefits are negligble and the maps are large enough that getting pushed back isnt an issue. also the red lines in bf dont usually have the best sight lines like they do in dust. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6270	Posted - 2014.07.02 07:05:00 - [13] - Quote Deal with Redline ***** first and sniper mechanic rebalance and then I'd like to look at sniper rifle damage. If they all had the Sniper Rifles like the Charged Sniper Rifle Mechanic (Like all other Caldari weapons) and low mag count WITH recoil I'd have no problem with high WTF Alpha. But no, you shouldn't be able to one shot anything and everything above a scout suit....Unless you get a headshot of course, then I'm fine. see you space cowboy...
manboar thunder fist Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 57	Posted - 2014.07.02 08:31:00 - [14] - Quote People with charge snipers or kaalakiotas tend to do superbly well at minimal cost. The reason snipers can't be amazing as the Thales is is due to the fact that no other class can counter them. This is because the redline is broken. For gods sake my friend had a k/d in excess of 200 and over 2500 kills with the Thales in a cal commando. That is because he played infantry in a few matches and died. If he had jus been sniping who knows. The rewards are average but the losses are tiny. This is the problem. If the redline was an impenetrable shield and snipers had to hide in places approachable by all suits they would be balanced. NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 253	Posted - 2014.07.02 09:15:00 - [15] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. snipers are in a good place... far away from the battlefield but seriously, good snipers take me out with kalikiota, charged, thale and aur variants of proto... should a adv or below sniper rifle be able to kill a heavy, proto, or adv suit with just one bodyshot? headshot? and ask yourself this, all the way out in the redline or up on a roof accessible only by dropship, where almost the whole team except another sniper could possibly hit you, should you also have a weapon that oneshots everything? personally the way I see it is a sniper is putting forward very little risk, so the reward should be very little. this being said, I have known awesome snipers that top the board.... I wonder how they do it? are you doing what they do?
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2964	Posted - 2014.07.02 09:23:00 - [16] - Quote It depends on the person as a 500EHP Minmatar assault, Snipers will often 2 shot me. But then again I'm also not brick tanked like everyone else. If I brick tanked I could quite easily reach 750-850EHP, as someone earlier said. It's not that sniper rifles are crap, its that everything but health is relatively crap. My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
Jathniel G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 1063	Posted - 2014.07.02 09:29:00 - [17] - Quote Well, I take people out in pubs just fine. But I have absolutely everything SR related maxed out, and I only use ADV snipers in pubs. The STD end is garbage, and I don't bother with the tactical sniper rifles under the Kaaly at all. They work, but if I need to land a 3rd and 4th shot to kill someone with a sniper rifle, that's just broken. gtfo. NT-511 on cheap suits for pubs. Snipers are fine when skilled into... just not vs. proto gear.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10621	Posted - 2014.07.02 09:44:00 - [18] - Quote The Thale's is OP. Risk vs Reward - Snipers have the least risk, hence it's fitting to have the least reward. The Thale's is an officer weapon, but those are balanced by their rarity, but since Thale's are in very low risk, they are rarely lost. I have only lost one Thale's in my entire DUST career. Cut sniper range to 250m to force them into combat instead of sitting in the redline, and then maybe we can talk about an increase in damage. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 199	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:35:00 - [19] - Quote Snipers are bollocks and boring... make proficiency a case of headshot damage increase when within a certain range, larger than most rifles but not so they can pew pew from the red, if you wanna play in the redzone let them make sandcastles or something.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1404	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:52:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I now (re)realise why people use thales in pubs. Because of the redline. I'd run officer ARs 24/7 if I had near total immunity from receiving damage.

Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 122	Posted - 2014.07.02 18:39:00 - [21] - Quote Sniper rifle are in an o.k place for pub matches, a proto sniper in the right hands can still be dangerous. That said in P.C.... it all falls apart... as far as they go, good luck even getting into one.
Cpl Foster USMC The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1054	Posted - 2014.07.02 18:57:00 - [22] - Quote I just enjoy shooting people. It just dawned on me that I haven't shot someone today. No wonder I'm grumpy... stop complaining about Valid Tactics and kill those bastards....you bastards
CRNWLLC Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 340	Posted - 2014.07.02 19:05:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sniping used to be okay (besides the hit detection), but ever since the 50% damage modifier nerf it's been garbage even at PRO. Though apparently people are okay with Sniper Rifles only being able to kill people in 3-4 shots (most of the clip), and only being viable on a Commando and/or with Proficiency Skills. ^^ Agreed. The damage mod nerf was a big mistake and really limits the way a person can snipe effectively. I don't really snipe much these days, and when I've picked it up again, I've found it's not too bad. Return damage mods to their previous glory and I think everyone will be a lot happier.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2071	Posted - 2014.07.02 19:06:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Deal with Redline ***** first and sniper mechanic rebalance and then I'd like to look at sniper rifle damage. If they all had the Sniper Rifles like the Charged Sniper Rifle Mechanic (Like all other Caldari weapons) and low mag count WITH recoil I'd have no problem with high WTF Alpha. But no, you shouldn't be able to one shot anything and everything above a scout suit....Unless you get a headshot of course, then I'm fine. They just need to remove sway. it's a great mechanic concept and i see it being very useful in Legion being a PC based game. But sway in DUST hurts a fast paced sniper game that could be present in DUST 514. We could actually have mobile snipers that watch at the back of their squad as they progress, maybe even force tactical snipers that advance team positions. It's either that are actually take accountability for the poor Map situation in DUST.
taxi bastard Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 135	Posted - 2014.07.02 19:24:00 - [25] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Normal sniper rifle: -Barely enough damage to kill with a full clip (5 shots) -Standard zoom -Players react after first shot, making following shots harder to land i run between 213 EHP and 500ish EHP i assure you i can be one shot by militia sniper rifles 2 at most. snipers work best against light and medium frames.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 768	Posted - 2014.07.02 20:00:00 - [26] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Dude, you're sitting 600 meters away from all of the action without a worry in the world, with no one to sneak up on you and blast you in the head and yet you're complaining about not being able to kill people better... I hope your tears fill a lake dude man bro because sniping is for players who are lazy and/or suck at killing. And, just to be fair, there are only two times to snipe. The first is to counter snipe some noob. The second is to kill anyone who thinks they are clever going on high ground. Which brings me to a completely unrelated point... actually two points. What's the deal with all these Latin corps popping up out of no where and why do they ALWAYS feel the need to get on high ground (new forum post about this later) or fly up to the top of a building to fight. YOU'LL NEVER WIN THAT WAY... EVER... And why do all these Latin corps feel the need to name their corp with their country name. WTF is that all about. No body else does this... It's seriously annoying. Newb
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 6208	Posted - 2014.07.02 20:34:00 - [27] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Dude, you're sitting 600 meters away from all of the action without a worry in the world, with no one to sneak up on you and blast you in the head and yet you're complaining about not being able to kill people better... I hope your tears fill a lake dude man bro because sniping is for players who are lazy and/or suck at killing. And, just to be fair, there are only two times to snipe. The first is to counter snipe some noob. The second is to kill anyone who thinks they are clever going on high ground. Which brings me to a completely unrelated point... actually two points. What's the deal with all these Latin corps popping up out of no where and why do they ALWAYS feel the need to get on high ground (new forum post about this later) or fly up to the top of a building to fight. YOU'LL NEVER WIN THAT WAY... EVER... And why do all these Latin corps feel the need to name their corp with their country name. WTF is that all about. No body else does this... It's seriously annoying. You made so many presumptions about my playstyle and presumptions/nasty remarks about a specific group of people I don't know where to start. Are these the people dark legion recruits, that's......slightly sad. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2014.07.02 20:39:00 - [28] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Dude, you're sitting 600 meters away from all of the action without a worry in the world, with no one to sneak up on you and blast you in the head and yet you're complaining about not being able to kill people better... I hope your tears fill a lake dude man bro because sniping is for players who are lazy and/or suck at killing. And, just to be fair, there are only two times to snipe. The first is to counter snipe some noob. The second is to kill anyone who thinks they are clever going on high ground. Which brings me to a completely unrelated point... actually two points. What's the deal with all these Latin corps popping up out of no where and why do they ALWAYS feel the need to get on high ground (new forum post about this later) or fly up to the top of a building to fight. YOU'LL NEVER WIN THAT WAY... EVER... And why do all these Latin corps feel the need to name their corp with their country name. WTF is that all about. No body else does this... It's seriously annoying. You made so many presumptions about my playstyle and presumptions/nasty remarks about a specific group of people I don't know where to start. Are these the people dark legion recruits, that's......slightly sad. it's actually most snipers... so I cant blame the guy for assuming you're one of them... if you're not a redline, high tower, mcc top sniper, then good for you... but you have to admit most are...
Everything Dies Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 799	Posted - 2014.07.02 22:05:00 - [29] - Quote I'll keep repeating myself: "Buffing" the sniper rifle damage should be avoided at all cost--you'll be hurting newer players in low-EHP suits far more than vets. Solution: Tweak the three classes of rifle-- 1. Charge (highest damage, but worst zoom fidelity and spool-up time) 2. Tactical (weakest, but offers the best zoom--what the Thale's currently has--and the quickest RoF.) 3. Regular version (stronger than tactical SRs, but with worse zoom and RoF) Right now the Thale's is godly due to the fact that it offers both increased damage AND zoom, along with increased range. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof: Listen
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2014.07.04 16:08:00 - [30] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: danie braz wrote: Thought DNS had quit already... If you'd like to post something relevant to the subject matter I'd be happy to read/reply, my alignment with my alliance however has nothing to do with sniping. Mah bad browski. Just thought it had disbanded. No trolling intended. Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium

Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 146	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:00:00 - [31] - Quote I will agree that most sniper rifles are garbage. They barely do enough damage and are a nuisance BUT I cannot agree to a buff because of the red line. If most sniper rifles could 1-2 shot most suits, that is all you will see in pub matches. People sitting in the red line taking cheap kills and not playing the objectives. Red line would have to have an invisible barrier where bullets could not penetrate to force players to play within neutral boundaries and snipe. Then I could agree to a much higher alpha strike to make sniper rifles deadly. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
VAHZZ 447	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:21:00 - [32] - Quote Take away the redline for a more open battle so you won't have to worry about redlining scrubs and their thales. A true sniper isn't that detestable. There is no honor in that. Yes, sniper nerf makes them suck now unless you invested in pro-skills like me. Even then i doubt my proto sniper could get it done like it used to back in the day. I need to redownload and teach these snipers how its done, and then let the master atiim show them how it's really done. The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling ~ Proud Sniper Scout
Ace Mercenary Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:21:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Snipers aren't meant to one shot kill with body shots its one kill headshot dumbass. Don't make them stronger nerf them so no one shot body shots
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 677	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:44:00 - [34] - Quote If you don't want to lose a Thale in pubs, use Charge. Probably the best alternative IMO. pâ¬péñpâòpâ½pü«tÄïpü½pü¬péïpÇé --pâ¬pâùpâ¬pâ+pâ¬péñpâ¬pâ+ `NyainChan Forever`
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 6223	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:35:00 - [35] - Quote Ace Mercenary wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Snipers aren't meant to one shot kill with body shots its one kill headshot dumbass. Don't make them stronger nerf them so no one shot body shots You a snipper are ya, you also seem to know how I play through some kinda mystic foresight, there are plenty o suits that can survive a headshot, and I'm not exclusively talking about the heavy frame. I love it when people post things like this, makes for a good 'head scratch' moment. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2014.07.05 23:20:00 - [36] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Ace Mercenary wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Sniping below officer sucks sweaty balls. Who were the guys that said 'sniping is in a good place' because I'd very much like to point out that is completely and utterly WRONG. (in my opinion) Extreamly bad, especially considering what it's ment to be doing. Snipers aren't meant to one shot kill with body shots its one kill headshot dumbass. Don't make them stronger nerf them so no one shot body shots You a snipper are ya, you also seem to know how I play through some kinda mystic foresight, there are plenty o suits that can survive a headshot, and I'm not exclusively talking about the heavy frame. I love it when people post things like this, makes for a good 'head scratch' moment. If anything they should boost headshot multiplier. Maybe decreaser headshot hit box as well. The idea would be to make it more of a skill shot. Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2258	Posted - 2014.07.05 23:27:00 - [37] - Quote If a bullet (or whatever) originates from behind the redline, it should do no damage, except to the shooter. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 152	Posted - 2014.07.05 23:33:00 - [38] - Quote Lens maintenance skill that unlocks a high module that increaes scope zoom. So you can increase zoom at cost of damage. I'd also add in IR and tagging modules. Stability module bipod or hi tech field generator. Reduced sway and movement. Also takes time to unlock so if you are counter sniped no kangaroo jumping away. Game mechanics. Redline is supposed to give a chance to spawn and get back in. Unfortunately the best sniper positions tend to be ringing most maps. I like the office blocks and other high perches that have ladders meaning a good sniper position but not immune. Another game mechanic I would add is. If you shooting a sniper rifle in the battle zone to a target in the battle zone sniper rifles do increased headshot damage (I'd link it to a skill)... Depending on the type upto a scrambler pistol level if a charge weapon. Red zone snipers don't benefit from increased head damage and once they score a kill are also subject to the increased damage (so you can move in the red zone you can't saftetly camp with an advantage). No kills, no disadvantage in red zone. Kill from the redzone with a sniper class weapon you are now 450% for a headshot from any weapon (I'd make it 900% for a scrambler pistol as the killer will probably die in the red zone). I personally hate landing a counter sniper headshot on a fatty camping miles back in the redzone who walks away from it. I like the advanced rifles for counter equipment/scouts. Main outfit is a Charge on a min scout with 3x ADV damage multipliers. I believe in having some risk in sniping. Not One Lifetime
Random Redberry Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 112	Posted - 2014.09.26 22:44:00 - [39] - Quote this isnt even emiley way a lie i got left as ceo what do? pls join
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16801	Posted - 2014.09.26 23:02:00 - [40] - Quote aside from the red berry; this was a nice rewind theater. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked



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