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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:07:00 -
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This Is The War Room Where all the Large Penille people go? We GD "Idiots" Are Going to become wevelent 3 , General Disscussion Armys Will Prove you will begin flooding the most grievous attacks on your little bunker called the war room
Now We Can't Tell Which Scrub Is Which![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
Father Of Hip-Hop 514
Official Dust 514 Rap Cypher
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4th Lieutenant Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:46:00 -
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I am the true Tiberius.
The one and only Lieutenant Tiberius
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Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
1430
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:56:00 -
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......Que?
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10117
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Posted - 2014.07.02 05:00:00 -
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The "GD'ers are Idiots", is a condescending phrase coined by players in PC who believe that their participation in a game-mode makes them more important than others.
The irony in this phrase, is that PC (and The War Room by extension) doesn't contribute to DUST 514 as a whole in any condition, way, shape, or form; making "GD" far more important than The War Room will ever be.
Also See: "Balance For PC vs. Balance For PUBs"
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5973
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Posted - 2014.07.02 05:08:00 -
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Atiim its like you're actively ignorant.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10117
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Posted - 2014.07.02 05:21:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim its like you're actively ignorant. There's a reason why games like counter-strike are ridiculously well balanced and continue to be popular. I've never played CS, but if I had to guess it would be because of nicely designed game mechanics and because item balance exists at all tiers (does CS have tiers?) and are equally powerful in terms of how they correlate to each-other.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5973
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Posted - 2014.07.02 05:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim its like you're actively ignorant. There's a reason why games like counter-strike are ridiculously well balanced and continue to be popular. I've never played CS, but if I had to guess it would be because of nicely designed game mechanics and because item balance exists at all tiers (does CS have tiers?) and are equally powerful in terms of how they correlate to each-other.
because they balance around competitive play.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10117
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Posted - 2014.07.02 06:17:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: because they balance around competitive play.
I think your confusing balancing items around each-other with balance around competitive play. The latter, is a myth because item balance is determined by assessing items and how they perform when compared to other items; something which is found irrespective of "play type" (or in DUST 514's case, game-mode )
Though I would love to see an example of how any item in this game was (or could be) "Balanced for PC", but not "Balanced for PUBs". Do you have one by any chance?
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
2015
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Posted - 2014.07.02 06:21:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:because they balance around competitive play.
Atiim, the answer is so simply and concisely put right in front of your face and yet you still fail to understand.
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5974
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Posted - 2014.07.02 06:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: because they balance around competitive play.
I think your confusing balancing items around each-other with balance around competitive play. The latter, is a myth because item balance is determined by assessing items and how they perform when compared to other items; something which is found irrespective of "play type" (or in DUST 514's case, game-mode ) Though I would love to see an example of how any item in this game was (or could be) "Balanced for PC", but not "Balanced for PUBs". Would you happen to have one by any chance?
Atiim, they literally balance around competitive play. They literally have an active dialogue with their competitive players and teams to balance. It all trickles down. If it's balanced in a situation where people play and understand all mechanics practically better than the people who make the game then it's balanced in Pub play where nobody is using teamwork.
It's not rocket science dude. Why are you even arguing with me?
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Killar-12
The Exemplars Top Men.
2900
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Posted - 2014.07.02 07:59:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: because they balance around competitive play.
I think your confusing balancing items around each-other with balance around competitive play. The latter, is a myth because item balance is determined by assessing items and how they perform when compared to other items; something which is found irrespective of "play type" (or in DUST 514's case, game-mode ) Though I would love to see an example of how any item in this game was (or could be) "Balanced for PC", but not "Balanced for PUBs". Would you happen to have one by any chance? Atiim, they literally balance around competitive play/gamemodes. They literally have an active dialogue with their competitive players and teams to balance. It all trickles down. If it's balanced in a situation where people play and understand all mechanics practically better than the people who make the game then it's balanced in Pub play where nobody is using teamwork. It's not rocket science dude. Why are you even arguing with me? CS also weeds out most idiots...
21-Day EVE Trial
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
889
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Posted - 2014.07.02 08:18:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:This Is The War Room Where all the Large Penille people go? We GD "Idiots" Are Going to become wevelent 3 ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) , General Disscussion Armys Will Prove you will begin flooding the most grievous attacks on your little bunker called the war room Now We Can't Tell Which Scrub Is Which ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) EDIT: Typos FTW
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3751
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:06:00 -
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I believe I am relevant, therefore I am.
Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3751
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:08:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim its like you're actively ignorant. There's a reason why games like counter-strike are ridiculously well balanced and continue to be popular. I've never played CS, but if I had to guess it would be because of nicely designed game mechanics and because item balance exists at all tiers (does CS have tiers?) and are equally powerful in terms of how they correlate to each-other. because they balance around competitive play.
Sorry but dust has never and will never be competitive.
*turns back to counterstrike*
Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.
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ZB DeLong
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2014.07.02 11:15:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I believe I am relevant, therefore I am. ^ awesome :)
Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2409
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Posted - 2014.07.02 12:06:00 -
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leave Atiim alone :)
Tanker/Logi
0 The number of 7ucks given
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10126
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Posted - 2014.07.02 14:12:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Atiim, they literally balance around competitive play/gamemodes. They literally have an active dialogue with their competitive players and teams to balance. It all trickles down.
Would you happen to have a video or audio clip?
I'm not saying your lying, but I'd like to see an example. Though I believe your mistaking "consulting the playerbase" with "balance for 'competitive play'"
Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:If it's balanced in a situation where people play and understand all mechanics practically better than the people who make the game then it's balanced in Pub play where nobody is using teamwork. Except you can't balance around "PUB play" either, as item balance is independent of gamemode. Though I'd really like a actual example of how anything would be balanced for "competitive play" instead of balanced around each other.
Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:It's not rocket science dude. Why are you even arguing with me? Because your saying is that item balance can be determined based on one sole"game-mode", as opposed to how their stats correlate with others; which false.
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:14:00 -
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Look what we destroyed in 2 hours
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
2312
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:27:00 -
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Not what I expected, Wheres the noob army? Oh Well at least Atiim And Tech showed up
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
700
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:40:00 -
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"Look what I destroyed in 2 days" -Kane spero
Look what we destroyed in 2 hours
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![Seymour KrelbornX Seymour KrelbornX](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The "GD'ers are Idiots", is a condescending phrase coined by players in PC who believe that their participation in a game-mode makes them more important than others.
The irony in this phrase, is that PC (and The War Room by extension) doesn't contribute to DUST 514 as a whole in any condition, way, shape, or form; making "GD" far more important than The War Room will ever be.
Also See: "Balance For PC vs. Balance For PUBs"
um attim, have to disagree with you here... the PC players do contribute, they provide a lot of data to ccp on end game mechanics, economics and such.
the usually are the one to find and exploit bugs and glitches.
and the psychiatric community is very interested in their emotional disorders, or so I've heard. |
![Soraya Xel Soraya Xel](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:14:00 -
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I want to be relevant!
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.03 00:51:00 -
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I enjoy being indie tho
CEOof Horizons' Edge mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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![Repe Susi Repe Susi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2014.07.04 08:11:00 -
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Posting to the thread to apply to become relevant.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
1593
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Posted - 2014.07.04 09:24:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:This Is The War Room Where all the Large Penille people go? We GD "Idiots" Are Going to become wevelent 3 ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) , General Disscussion Armys Will Prove you will begin flooding the most grievous attacks on your little bunker called the war room Now We Can't Tell Which Scrub Is Which ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) EDIT: Typos FTW http://i.imgur.com/8qX8olP.gif
Closed beta vet.
If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
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Grimmiers
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:56:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Atiim its like you're actively ignorant. There's a reason why games like counter-strike are ridiculously well balanced and continue to be popular. I've never played CS, but if I had to guess it would be because of nicely designed game mechanics and because item balance exists at all tiers (does CS have tiers?) and are equally powerful in terms of how they correlate to each-other. because they balance around competitive play.
He's right. In a counter strike global update they buffed the tec-9 and everyone abused it as if it was a fotm in dust. The very next day they nerfed it back to original state without months of begging and players telling you to "get gud" and "adapt or die". |
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.07.05 01:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Atiim, they literally balance around competitive play/gamemodes. They literally have an active dialogue with their competitive players and teams to balance. It all trickles down.
Would you happen to have a video or audio clip? I'm not saying your lying, but I'd like to see an example. Though I believe your mistaking "consulting the playerbase" with "balance for 'competitive play'" Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:If it's balanced in a situation where people play and understand all mechanics practically better than the people who make the game then it's balanced in Pub play where nobody is using teamwork. Except you can't balance around "PUB play" either, as item balance is independent of gamemode. Though I'd really like a actual example of how anything would be balanced for "competitive play" instead of balanced around each other. Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:It's not rocket science dude. Why are you even arguing with me? Because your saying is that item balance can be determined based on one sole"game-mode", as opposed to how their stats correlate with others; which false.
Basically Atiim, by looking at competitive play, you can see through basic statistics that, that which is being used more in competitive play, is 9/10 the better option over other options, and other options either need a buff, or the current main option needs a Nerf.
You then trickle down these statistics to apply to lower tiered options as well
For example
When the Flaylock pistol was released, soon, 8/10 DUST players were using this as their primary sidearm in competitive play at proto level
With several other sidearm choices available, this should not be the case in a competitive environment unless it is therefore better than other options available (SMG, Scrambler pistol, Knova knives, etc.)
Thus
- A. Other sidearms need a buff to become competitive
- B. Flaylock needs a Nerf to become less competitive
Because flaylocks were becoming so popular, people would dual wield these, CCP went with option B
In most cases, developers would introduce minor fixes within the week that new weapons are introduced to provide proper balancing
However this is CCP and nerfing in a timely mstter does not seem to be in their repertoire
So generally when something is overpowered, you are looking at weeks or months of hardship and severe weapon or module destruction instead of simple tweaks from CCP
Now there are exceptions to this theory (I.e. something is overpowered but is a niche weapon that not all players wish to use)
But generally, you figure out that which is abused in competitive play
And you prevent that abuse from transferring to the general public
Closed Beta Vet/ Chromosome and Corp battle Vet/ Uprising 1.0-Now PC vet
Ex D.F. Director
Current Inner.Hell Director
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![pa ck pa ck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
pa ck
G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.05 03:20:00 -
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4th Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:I am the true Tiberius. No no this cant be ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Lone Wolf -Assault CK.0 Scout CK.0
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![3rd Liuetenant Tiberius 3rd Liuetenant Tiberius](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
3rd Liuetenant Tiberius
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.05 03:26:00 -
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4th Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:I am the true Tiberius. Lies, all lies. I am the true Tiberius. |
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pa ck
G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.05 03:28:00 -
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3rd Liuetenant Tiberius wrote:4th Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:I am the true Tiberius. Lies, all lies. I am the true Tiberius. Holy crackers theres more
Lone Wolf -Assault CK.0 Scout CK.0
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