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XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1646	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:31:00 - [1] - Quote NEW VIDEO!!! Hello, I have made a couple of threads about this topic concerning a game-breaking bug with the plasma cannon. Friends told me to get recent footage since the video I have of the bug is about 8 months old and I had already posted it and submitted a bug report to CCP those 8 months ago. So Here I am with a new video and a semi-in depth explanation of most of the variables involved and how they are not in any way responsible for the bug. People keep mentioning distance, damage oclussion etc but this video demonstrated beyond a doubt that there is something going on that needs to be fixed for this weapo to be used effectively. This bug is, in my opinion why people new to the weapon give up and people old to the weapon become frustrated with it since it tends to fail in the most important of times. 8 month old video Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 618	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:11:00 - [2] - Quote Not to mention shots having a tendency to go straight through targets without doing any damage. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2691	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:12:00 - [3] - Quote That's not the only bug this weapon has, unfortunately. I tend to fire blank shots frequently, as well as having a delay in my shots (as in, it does the fire animation, but the projectile doesn't leave the barrel until a few moments later). What kills me the most are the Phantom shots. I even have to reload blanks, sometimes. It's awful.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2691	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:13:00 - [4] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Not to mention shots having a tendency to go straight through targets without doing any damage. This, too.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1649	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Not to mention shots having a tendency to go straight through targets without doing any damage. Unfortunately this one is a bit rarer for me and I haven't been able to get footage for it. Everytime It happens I just am not getting footage. It frustrates me but sometimes It's a chore to just cycle footage. My target Is to junk that one down next Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
I-Shayz-I I----------I 3849	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:41:00 - [6] - Quote bumping for the sake of the Plasma Cannon! They should just increase the splash radius a bit...since It's a freaking CANNON that shoots GIANT BALLS OF PLASMA 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 3448	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:02:00 - [7] - Quote Which scout was that? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 621	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:25:00 - [8] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Not to mention shots having a tendency to go straight through targets without doing any damage. Unfortunately this one is a bit rarer for me and I haven't been able to get footage for it. Everytime It happens I just am not getting footage. It frustrates me but sometimes It's a chore to just cycle footage. My target Is to junk that one down next Pyrex had a recent plasma cannon video that caught this one, though I can't remember the title. :/ Technically, the shot didn't really go "through" the target, he just managed to thread the needle between the guy's arm I believe. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1651	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:33:00 - [9] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Not to mention shots having a tendency to go straight through targets without doing any damage. Unfortunately this one is a bit rarer for me and I haven't been able to get footage for it. Everytime It happens I just am not getting footage. It frustrates me but sometimes It's a chore to just cycle footage. My target Is to junk that one down next Pyrex had a recent plasma cannon video that caught this one, though I can't remember the title. :/ Technically, the shot didn't really go "through" the target, he just managed to thread the needle between the guy's arm I believe. I had a video I thought the glitch was in but saw that is actually went through the guys legs. It was so close to the crotch it seemed to have been a direct shot but when slowed down I could clearly see it go through the legs. I'm still hopeful though, finding that one is my next priority. If anyone has any information on the circumstanced under which it happens it would be very useful. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1651	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:35:00 - [10] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Which scout was that? Gallente scout if I'm not mistaken. I have heard rumors about caldari scout and hit detection but I haven't had the time to notice since they usually kill me so quickly. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6269	Posted - 2014.07.02 05:13:00 - [11] - Quote I've had this happen as well. Also there is an issue with scouts if the travel above a certain speed the plasma cannon round does no damage. Only shield Flare. This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.07.02 14:04:00 - [12] - Quote Agreed: Plasma Cannon needs a a bigger splash radius. And i think it needs a nother buff against vehicles. I found a sica that had a newbie in it or they guy just messed up and got his tank stuck in a ******** spot. I had a plasma cannon I shot 5 shots at the Sica with basic shield amount and a 120m plate on it. so over 2k shield and 2k armor Shield resist against explosives might have taken a little more effect but this match 2 soma's came up on me as well after popping the sica. I put 5 shots into the soma but the dps was out repped by a single basic heavy armor rep.... This si the onkly flaw is that CCP says its an AV weapon but the DPS cant match up with a FG or a swarm launcher. ....hope ccp see's this Supporter of Legion Supporter of Valkyrie Supporter/Fan of Eve
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1651	Posted - 2014.07.02 15:07:00 - [13] - Quote Emo Skellington wrote: Agreed: Plasma Cannon needs a a bigger splash radius. And i think it needs a nother buff against vehicles. I found a sica that had a newbie in it or they guy just messed up and got his tank stuck in a ******** spot. I had a plasma cannon I shot 5 shots at the Sica with basic shield amount and a 120m plate on it. so over 2k shield and 2k armor Shield resist against explosives might have taken a little more effect but this match 2 soma's came up on me as well after popping the sica. I put 5 shots into the soma but the dps was out repped by a single basic heavy armor rep.... This si the onkly flaw is that CCP says its an AV weapon but the DPS cant match up with a FG or a swarm launcher. ....hope ccp see's this Plasma Cannon is good where it is. No buff's or variants are needed nor planned By CCP. It does need those bugs fixed though Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 651	Posted - 2014.07.02 15:20:00 - [14] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: So Here I am with a new video] That's some solid QA right there. Do you have any theories as to why this happens in live games but doesn't happen when practicing on a friend? Is it the suit type, the movement speed or maybe the terrain (as in interior vs. exterior)? Maybe someone fluxed up the obstruction checks for explosions in interiors...
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 928	Posted - 2014.07.03 09:24:00 - [15] - Quote I always find it funny (and frustrating) how a scout can survive a shot, while a few moments before you one-shotted a heavy. Good job on the vid.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1654	Posted - 2014.07.03 16:08:00 - [16] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: So Here I am with a new video] That's some solid QA right there. Do you have any theories as to why this happens in live games but doesn't happen when practicing on a friend? Is it the suit type, the movement speed or maybe the terrain (as in interior vs. exterior)? Maybe someone fluxed up the obstruction checks for explosions in interiors... Well In think if we look back at when the mass driver hit detection was bugged, we may be able to find some clues. Them both being splash based weaponry, I suspect they share a lot of the same code but, when the mass driver got looked at; CCP either forgot to take a pass on the Plasma Cannon or, since it was severely underused, CCP might have thought that lack of someone complaining about the bug meant there was none.Either way, I have two example and am pretty sure I can find more if CCP needs it. I believe This bug appears in action just as a statistic increase in probability of it happening. Although there are more variables in live action situations, while testing I have yet to test different terrain types and angles as well as player movement speed in the different tests. All of these could be factors and the fact that CCP did find something wrong with the mass driver and fixed it means that they already have an idea of where the problem is. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2213	Posted - 2014.07.03 19:01:00 - [17] - Quote Another annoying glitch I've noticed is that if you die while the Plasma shot is still flying through the air, the shot disappears and never reaches the target. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Gabriel Ceja Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2014.07.03 20:53:00 - [18] - Quote Another thing that is annoying is when the shot clearly lands next to the enemy and they take no damage even though the plasma cannon has a 3.5 blast radius. "Throw on the flux capacitor." activates fuel injector "WOOOOOO!!!"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 133	Posted - 2014.07.03 21:30:00 - [19] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: NEW VIDEO!!! Hello, I have made a couple of threads about this topic concerning a game-breaking bug with the plasma cannon. Friends told me to get recent footage since the video I have of the bug is about 8 months old and I had already posted it and submitted a bug report to CCP those 8 months ago. So Here I am with a new video and a semi-in depth explanation of most of the variables involved and how they are not in any way responsible for the bug. People keep mentioning distance, damage oclussion etc but this video demonstrated beyond a doubt that there is something going on that needs to be fixed for this weapon to be used effectively. This bug is, in my opinion why people new to the weapon give up and people old to the weapon become frustrated with it since it tends to fail in the most important of times. 8 month old video the plasma cannon is a Anti vehicular weapon not anti personnel that's why your whining about it. its like trying to use mass driver to take out vehicles or swarms to take out infantry Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1654	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:38:00 - [20] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the plasma cannon is a Anti vehicular weapon not anti personnel that's why your whining about it. its like trying to use mass driver to take out vehicles or swarms to take out infantry I guess My friend here got killed one too many times by a plasma cannons... Does it sting? BTW pointing out a bug is not whining. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor

XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1696	Posted - 2014.07.05 01:51:00 - [21] - Quote Any idea if this can be fixed or put in the backlog to deal with later rattati? Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
alten hilt Legio DXIV 362	Posted - 2014.07.13 16:55:00 - [22] - Quote I may have some footage of plasma cannon bugs. I've definitly experienced all the bugs listed above, but I usually only record when I'm working on a tutorial video. I'll search through my footage and see what I can find. Also, I'd like to get your opinion on a projectile speed buff for the plasma cannon. Personally, I don't think it will change it's effectiveness against infantry targets much because of it's other limiting factors, but I think it would improve it's Anti-Vehicle role. With the projectile speed as it is right now, hitting vehicles a second or third time is insanely difficult because of how easy it is to straff a shot from the plasma cannon. Heck, an HAV in reverse can travel faster than a plasma cannon round (I think I have this one in footage). And forget about using it effectively against dropships. Surviving Dust: Tutorial Series


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