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DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 388	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:18:00 - [1] - Quote be honest... mine is the combat rifle because of its lopsided damage profile
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2953	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:25:00 - [2] - Quote Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2210	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:29:00 - [3] - Quote I don't even know why people even talk about the SG with RRs and CRs out there. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Seriously. Think about it.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 24	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:31:00 - [4] - Quote Rail Rifle similar damage to the Breach AR but doubled range. Its too good . I hope CCp nerfs it
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11457	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:39:00 - [5] - Quote I don't really hate any of them. Maybe the CR if I am pushed and only because its Minmatar. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Cpl Foster USMC The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1051	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:44:00 - [6] - Quote Rail Rifle. Because. stop complaining about Valid Tactics and kill those bastards....you bastards
I-Shayz-I I----------I 3848	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:57:00 - [7] - Quote Rail Rifle Cause when I use it it feels cheap and way too easy-mode. It's what I call a Calp** weapon. Unlike the obvious laser shots from the scrambler, the short range of the AR, and the easy to tell where it's coming from combat rifle...the RR fires semi-invisible rounds that make it almost impossible to tell where the enemy is. Especially when you can be 100 meters away hiding behind a hill/ledge and your head is but a pixel on the horizon 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!**
Tectonic Fusion 1823	Posted - 2014.07.01 22:58:00 - [8] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I don't even know why people even talk about the SG with RRs and CRs out there. They're scrubs...that's why they talk. It's the Scrambler and Assault Rifle for me. I'm a cal scout with 289-295 shields and 80 armor so yeah...
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 33	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:06:00 - [9] - Quote Ooh good post +1. That rail rifle is stupid op
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3822	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:12:00 - [10] - Quote Hate going up against a ScRGÇª all my suits are low HP so they melt me. Also any Assault Variant rifleGÇª to much output with to little drawback KRRROOOOOOM

Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 641	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:13:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly I feel the weapons are quite balanced at the moment. Only changes I would advise would be Projectile Damage fix(-15/+15), and spread hipfire for RR. Used the RR the other day and realized why switched to the ScR, you can't have beast range and no damage drop off in CQC. Don't you shiver PS News VIZZZIAM
Jillic Unlubricated RapeTrain 262	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:15:00 - [12] - Quote I hate the RR as well, but I always get surprised by SCR's for some odd reason. Caldari Girls Do It Better. Keikaku I am everyones Alt.
Lynn Beck EnvyUs. 1986	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:31:00 - [13] - Quote Instead of making projectile's profile change arbitrarily, what if we dropped optimal to not that much higher than AR, but raised Effective out to near SCR's Optimal? Aside from that, back on track- I hate Scr Rifles. Being in my Minmatar heavy, or even my Commando, it's literally futile even trying to fight a SCR, as they'll melt my twin tank faster than i can rven aim at them. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11459	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:38:00 - [14] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Instead of making projectile's profile change arbitrarily, what if we dropped optimal to not that much higher than AR, but raised Effective out to near SCR's Optimal? Aside from that, back on track- I hate Scr Rifles. Being in my Minmatar heavy, or even my Commando, it's literally futile even trying to fight a SCR, as they'll melt my twin tank faster than i can rven aim at them. You aren't Commandoing proper if that's happening. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote It used to be viziam but people don't run that anymore. Other than that, I have no hatred in my heart for any other weapons.
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 721	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:48:00 - [16] - Quote RR OP? lol RR users miss out on 20% of their initial DPS because of the charge up time. If you are competent, you would know to duck in and out of cover when in a close range battle with a RR user, causing them to either stop firing or run out of ammo trying to hit you. This Bravo hotfix is the closest thing to balance I have ever seen in Dust. GLORY TO THE STATE
Espartoi Orkz Clan 293	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:54:00 - [17] - Quote Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ****. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
Tectonic Fusion 1825	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:55:00 - [18] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: RR OP? lol RR users miss out on 20% of their initial DPS because of the charge up time. If you are competent, you would know to duck in and out of cover when in a close range battle with a RR user, causing them to either stop firing or run out of ammo trying to hit you. This Bravo hotfix is the closest thing to balance I have ever seen in Dust. Since I am a scout and I always use cover, Rail Rifles don't bother me.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1021	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Definitely the Combat rifle. Damage profiles are inherently imbalance in its favor for no good reason. +5Gäà damage for no good reason. RR is fine if you have shields and understand cover. Charge time can be abused by popping in/out of cover. Plus, erratic movement takes advantage of its recoil. Scrambler rifle is fine if you have armour an know how to move unpredictability. Don't stand still, an you'll avoid charged headshot damage by all save for the pros. AR is fine if you know how to use range to your advantage. Or strafe like a mofo, 'cause keeping your eye on a moving target in CQC is somewhat difficult. I am a minotaur.
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2767	Posted - 2014.07.01 23:58:00 - [20] - Quote CRs, ACRs... Projectile weapons, really They're all Skill-less bullet hoses with a great damage profile. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11461	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:02:00 - [21] - Quote Espartoi wrote: Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ***. Have you seen out Titan? " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."*
Espartoi Orkz Clan 293	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:19:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ****. Have you seen out Titan? Yes, am still traumatized. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11461	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:21:00 - [23] - Quote Espartoi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ***. Have you seen out Titan? Yes, am still traumatized. On the doll where did the big bad Titan touch you? " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."*
Harpyja Legio DXIV 1978	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:23:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. I hate the combat rifle just as much the rail rifle, and I hate the rail rifle a lot for the reasons you mentioned. Too much range for that much DPS. And the combat rifle just has too much DPS, with still a decent range. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Espartoi Orkz Clan 293	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:26:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ****. Have you seen out Titan? Yes, am still traumatized. On the doll where did the big bad Titan touch you? Your castrated ship touch my Rifter, i was only shopping but i didn't put too much attention to "this is FW" warning. But seriously, what where Devs thinking when they design all the Amarr tech?. (I have something in mind but i don't know) Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1542	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:29:00 - [26] - Quote Espartoi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Laser rifle, because it looks like an over sized ****. Have you seen out Titan? Yes, am still traumatized. On the doll where did the big bad Titan touch you? Your castrated ship touch my Rifter, i was only shopping but i didn't put too much attention to "this is FW" warning. But seriously, what where Devs thinking when they design all the Amarr tech?. (I have something in mind but i don't know) they were thinking about gold and manliness and how best to combine the two... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Espartoi Orkz Clan 293	Posted - 2014.07.02 00:35:00 - [27] - Quote Just the way she likes it. That's way you are force to ride dicks, fly inside dicks, walk inside a ** and shoot with a ** and if the Amarr templar sword is done matches will be full of with dicks running with golden dildos. And the Naglfar looks like copy paste of the Home world Mother ship. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1543	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:20:00 - [28] - Quote Espartoi wrote: Just the way she likes it. That's way you are force to ride dicks, fly inside dicks, walk inside a ** and shoot with a ** and if the Amarr templar sword is done matches will be full of with dicks running with golden dildos. And the Naglfar looks like copy paste of the Home world Mother ship. sounds like someone needs to be hauled off to jelli school... also the Amarr are the ones closest to reaching terran of the four playable races so it would make sense that our ship might resemble thiers Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11462	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:26:00 - [29] - Quote Espartoi wrote: Just the way she likes it. That's way you are force to ride dicks, fly inside dicks, walk inside a ** and shoot with a ** and if the Amarr templar sword is done matches will be full of with dicks running with golden dildos. And the Naglfar looks like copy paste of the Home world Mother ship. Our mighty space cocks will turkey slap your entire rebellious people into the dirt. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 642	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:29:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Just the way she likes it. That's way you are force to ride dicks, fly inside dicks, walk inside a ** and shoot with a ** and if the Amarr templar sword is done matches will be full of with dicks running with golden dildos. And the Naglfar looks like copy paste of the Home world Mother ship. Our mighty space cocks will turkey slap your entire rebellious people into the dirt. True Adamance 2014 Don't you shiver PS News VIZZZIAM

Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3910	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:55:00 - [31] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Just the way she likes it. That's way you are force to ride dicks, fly inside dicks, walk inside a ** and shoot with a and if the Amarr templar sword is done matches will be full of with dicks running with golden dildos. And the Naglfar looks like copy paste of the Home world Mother ship. Our mighty space cocks will turkey slap your entire rebellious people into the dirt. *** GET ONNA FLOOR CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11467	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:57:00 - [32] - Quote See guys this is why I am one of the greatest generals of the Amarr Empire and you all are not. Cause I gotz me dem swag and dem golden balls! " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3910	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:58:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: See guys this is why I am one of the greatest generals of the Amarr Empire and you all are not. Cause I gotz me dem swag and dem golden balls! :( can I have some sw3g please mr adamance? CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11467	Posted - 2014.07.02 01:59:00 - [34] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: See guys this is why I am one of the greatest generals of the Amarr Empire and you all are not. Cause I gotz me dem swag and dem golden balls! :( can I have some sw3g please mr adamance? (Redacted post that would have been insanely funny for me) Of course noble Lorhak! TAKE YOU FILL OF SWAG <3 " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10612	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:01:00 - [35] - Quote CR's. Amazing damage regardless of shields or armor. Decent range too. And very very easy to handle. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2053	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:04:00 - [36] - Quote Boundless Combat Rifle with Modded controller and Aim assist. Once the crosshairs "Red" with Aim assist and modded controller. It's impossible to register enough bullets on them before they do you and you die. Basically Dust's Core game mechanics... I hate them the most.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4117	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:04:00 - [37] - Quote Hate the Rail Rifle. I hate the charge up. I'm an "instantaneous fire" kinda dude. The fact that they've cost me a ton of ISK in lost Heavy Dropsuits doesn't help. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
JP Acuna Pendejitos Zero-Day 204	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:32:00 - [38] - Quote Combat Rifle. I hate it, feels cheap, kills too fast, is FOTM. I've found peace about ScRs, RRs, MDs... anything except the damn CR and ACR. Too cheap.
I-Shayz-I I----------I 3850	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:52:00 - [39] - Quote I like how this thread started out about rifles and then the Amarrians hijacked it and now it's about dicks I like **'s, they have amazing hamburgers for super cheap. And their shakes? Oh man don't even get me started <3 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!**
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 111	Posted - 2014.07.02 02:57:00 - [40] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I like how this thread started out about rifles and then the Amarrians hijacked it and now it's about dicks That's all amarr are good for, anyway. You filthy amarr, with your golden guns and your sparkling merc quarters....Curse you.. GalLogi to the end

The Eristic Dust 90210 513	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:02:00 - [41] - Quote AR and ScR are pretty close to being balanced, though the latter can be exploited by turbo controller scrublords (CR can as well, of course, and doesn't overheat). RR just plain has too much damage per shot to be a fully auto, extremely long range weapon with no real drawbacks. The award, though, has to go to CR. CR (+ ACR, too, really, though it merely needs either less damage or less range, one or the other) have too much damage per projectile for the ROF and profile (and non-existent fitting costs!). Standard CR is putting out 81 damage per trigger pull before mods/prof, only dropping to ~77 vs shields and jumping to 89 vs armor; that's only 1 damage less vs shields than the standard ScR, the extreme profile of which is supposed to make it the premier anti-shield weapon. Boundless comes to about the same, 1 damage less vs shields than the Viziam ScR, while it does 98 vs armor compared to the Viziam's 57! Changing both ScR and CR to +15/-15 profiles would probably just about balance things out, but per shot damage might still need to be dropped a little. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 322	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:06:00 - [42] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: be honest... mine is the combat rifle because of its lopsided damage profile This and the acr because it does so much damage mows down sheild and armor and still has the range of a regular cr. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11473	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:08:00 - [43] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I like how this thread started out about rifles and then the Amarrians hijacked it and now it's about dicks That's all amarr are good for, anyway. Yeah the women of New Eden appreciate us Amarrians..... they often compare us to our Avatar's........ " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 322	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:10:00 - [44] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. I hate the combat rifle just as much the rail rifle, and I hate the rail rifle a lot for the reasons you mentioned. Too much Dmg for that much range. And the combat rifle just has too much DPS, with still a decent range. Fixed I like the rr range we just have to much damage Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1185	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:12:00 - [45] - Quote Meh they're all fine except the the cr being op. But either way if the cr got nerfed people would just cry about the ar again. Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Espartoi Orkz Clan 293	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:13:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: See guys this is why I am one of the greatest generals of the Amarr Empire and you all are not. Cause I gotz me dem swag and dem golden balls! All of you are castrated imperialist dogs. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Intrepidus XI EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.02 03:14:00 - [47] - Quote The CR can suck my balls. Blasting my 300 shield/600 armor galmando down to hell, in under 3 seconds with nothing but a milita. Planetside 2 Eventually Eh
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:00:00 - [48] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. For some reason though, the AR feels good now. The delay and low ROF make it bad for CQC for me. Do I wish that it had more range? YES, but whatever. Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Atiim Fooly Cooly. 10114	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:27:00 - [49] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Only changes I would advise would be Projectile Damage fix(-15/+15), No, because that damage profile is too similar to explosives. Not to mention that there needs to be at least 1 damage profile that's good against dual tankers (otherwise dual tanking becomes stronger, due to the lack of a weakness). I'd suggest (+5/-5), that way it keeps it's effectiveness against dual tankers, and it's sacrifice and gains are both both reasonable, and equal. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1879	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:50:00 - [50] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. ^This one. For this reason. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0

Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1879	Posted - 2014.07.02 04:52:00 - [51] - Quote For those who hate on the CR, do not fret. I only use the ACR. ;) PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11485	Posted - 2014.07.02 05:11:00 - [52] - Quote Eh..... " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 392	Posted - 2014.07.02 05:34:00 - [53] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Rail rifle, over double the range of the AR but nowhere near a reasonable damage reduction. for comparison. the weapons these rifles are based off of in terms of function and lore would be the following examples. ive posted the ranges, but here are the links as well. (RR) 150mm Railgun I - 12km optimal and 6km falloff = 18km effective range [3.025x] (AR) Light Neutron Blaster I - 1.5km optimal and 2.5km falloff = 4km effective range [3.675x] (LR) Small Focused Beam Laser I - 10km optimal and 4km falloff = 14km effective range [3x] (Scr) Small Focused Pulse Laser I - 5km optimal and 2km falloff = 7km effective range [3x] (CR) 200mm AutoCannon I - 1km optimal and 4.8km falloff = 5.8km effective range [2.8875x] https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/150mm_Railgun_I https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Light_Neutron_Blaster_I https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Small_Focused_Beam_Laser_I https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Small_Focused_Pulse_Laser_I https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/200mm_AutoCannon_I EDIT: i'll post the damage modifiers as well, in brackets.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3386	Posted - 2014.07.02 06:33:00 - [54] - Quote The caldari scout... Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
H0riz0n Unlimit Nexus Balusa Horizon 61	Posted - 2014.07.02 07:21:00 - [55] - Quote Jillic wrote: I hate the RR as well, but I always get surprised by SCR's for some odd reason. Ehm...turbopad? Appena rilogghi ti metto quei cingoli come apparecchio per i denti. Cit.Von Shulz
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11489	Posted - 2014.07.02 07:33:00 - [56] - Quote H0riz0n Unlimit wrote: Jillic wrote: I hate the RR as well, but I always get surprised by SCR's for some odd reason. Ehm...turbopad? Sure a turbo pad break the damage model but a quick trigger finger is a godsent and something that translates to all FPS. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2965	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:38:00 - [57] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: RR OP? lol RR users miss out on 20% of their initial DPS because of the charge up time. If you are competent, you would know to duck in and out of cover when in a close range battle with a RR user, causing them to either stop firing or run out of ammo trying to hit you. This Bravo hotfix is the closest thing to balance I have ever seen in Dust. Who said we were talking about using the RR at short range? However since you bring it up, do you not think RR users are aware of the downsides of the charge time amd have adjusted their style to work around it? You also forget. 1) Their is not always cover 2) The charge time makes no difference if the RR shoots first 3) The RR has the highest hipfire accuracy, longest range and greatest damage per shot. 4) While the kick is large the recoil is minimal 5) Have I mentioned how it's the most accurate rifle under hip fire? My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 199	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:43:00 - [58] - Quote The assault rifle... Because when you die to one, you feel like you've done something horribly horribly wrong : (
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 392	Posted - 2014.07.02 11:49:00 - [59] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: RR OP? lol RR users miss out on 20% of their initial DPS because of the charge up time. If you are competent, you would know to duck in and out of cover when in a close range battle with a RR user, causing them to either stop firing or run out of ammo trying to hit you. This Bravo hotfix is the closest thing to balance I have ever seen in Dust. Who said we were talking about using the RR at short range? However since you bring it up, do you not think RR users are aware of the downsides of the charge time amd have adjusted their style to work around it? You also forget. 1) Their is not always cover 2) The charge time makes no difference if the RR shoots first 3) The RR has the highest hipfire accuracy, longest range and greatest damage per shot. 4) While the kick is large the recoil is minimal 5) Have I mentioned how it's the most accurate rifle under hip fire? 1) lack of cover works both ways 2) if RR shoots first then back off til he reloads or stops shooting. never engage anyone already shooting. goes for anything in the game 3) RR does not have highest damage per shot. the breach AR and Scr have higher damage per shot 4) kick and recoil are the same thing 5) yes you have
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3755	Posted - 2014.07.02 12:23:00 - [60] - Quote Everything I'm not using at any given time. Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.

Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 34	Posted - 2014.07.02 12:37:00 - [61] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Boundless Combat Rifle with Modded controller and Aim assist. Once the crosshairs "Red" with Aim assist and modded controller, it doesn't miss no matter how fast you are, what wall you run behind or if you have 4 people standing beside or even in front of you.. your locked and going to die. It's impossible to register enough bullets on them before they do and you die. Basically Dust's Core game mechanics... I hate them the most. Thats cool GIMMIE NOWWWWWW!
Vitoka79 from SVK ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 102	Posted - 2014.07.02 13:16:00 - [62] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Rail Rifle similar damage to the Breach AR but doubled range. Its too good . I hope CCp nerfs it And the Breach AR is more expensive. DUST 514 open market?Rest in pieces...
Haerr Legio DXIV 893	Posted - 2014.07.02 13:17:00 - [63] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: be honest... mine is the combat rifle because of its lopsided damage profile All of them. Because Caldari Scouts with aim assistance and me using m&k (plugged directly into the PS3). Though I have to say that I am more afraid of the ACR than anything else. I still have all those horrible memories of running into cover and being yanked back in place by 'slow down on hit'...
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2848	Posted - 2014.07.02 13:28:00 - [64] - Quote I use and abuse them all because I'm a tryhard who easily gets bored with one weapon. CRs are my general all-purpose rifles. RRs are my open map, long-range damage dealers. ARs are for maps such as Spine Crescent where everything is enclosed. ScRs are there for when I want to run links or injectors. I never run out of ammo with them and they work well at both close and long range combat. I like them all... Why must I hate any of them?
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5541	Posted - 2014.07.02 15:14:00 - [65] - Quote Rail Rifles. Way too good of a combination of range, damage, and accuracy. Good thing your average rail rifle user is too stupid to take advantage of that. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2968	Posted - 2014.07.02 15:32:00 - [66] - Quote Everyone hates a rifle, fortunately these changes will fix them! Unbalanced: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oQQ9DSTVq-tvOhZDXICz63PmZcHcvJqntya_gTri-50/edit?usp=sharing Balanced: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OYGYch9cUVaM9jX06BTUC9pc5LY8w6wrtQHjMKn6z5w/edit?usp=sharing My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.07.02 15:43:00 - [67] - Quote The plasma rifle because it doesn't feel the same since closed beta. Although I would love to hate it for being a monster up close , it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I need to revisit it again but my combat rifle is so much better, even the base model when you have proficiency 4 is more than enough to down heavies if you tackle them right. Rail rifle comes a close second just because that thing plinks at you from what seems like half a map away lol. Annoying doesn't do it justice. GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Denchlad 7 The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.07.02 16:24:00 - [68] - Quote All of them except AR. Before you hiss at me about ScR, please remember im Caldari and shields are my fwend :( I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. 5 to go.
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1608	Posted - 2014.07.02 16:56:00 - [69] - Quote Combat rifle
CRNWLLC Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 338	Posted - 2014.07.02 17:35:00 - [70] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Honestly I feel the weapons are quite balanced at the moment. Only changes I would advise would be Projectile Damage fix(-15/+15), and spread hipfire for RR. Used the RR the other day and realized why switched to the ScR, you can't have beast range and no damage drop off in CQC. Don't forget the almost non-existent recoil! ScR FTW! Bethhy wrote: Basically Dust's Core game mechanics... I hate them the most. ^^ XD So, so true. Destiny beta is only a couple weeks away! I personally hate CRs (especially the ACR) and to a lesser extent, RRs, for the same reasons many others hate them: A/CR Stupid damage profile Stupid range An ostensibly DPS-favoring weapon (you know, cuz it's an automatic rifle) that looks/feels/smells like an alpha weapon Light PG/CPU requirements RR Crazy range Way too high ROF Way too effective in CQC Hipfire accuracy is ret@rded for a long-range precision weapon Needs an optimum range similar to LR (ie, it needs to be a pretty limited area beginning about 60m and ending around 90m, effective up to whatever it currently is; anything before that range is gimped significantly) Although I sincerely dislike these weapons, I will say that the RR usually isn't too much of a hassle (sorta like avoiding a sniper, most of the time), and a big issue with CRs is cloaks--if protoscouts couldn't double-crutch with cloaks and proto A/CRs, there'd be a lot less hate toward this gun. Doesn't mean it's not OP, just means that the gun isn't the only part of the equation that makes players hate it.

Spaceman-Rob Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 430	Posted - 2014.07.02 17:38:00 - [71] - Quote There's a lot of hate in here.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 35	Posted - 2014.07.02 21:07:00 - [72] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Rail Rifle Cause when I use it it feels cheap and way too easy-mode. It's what I call a Calp**** weapon. Unlike the obvious laser shots from the scrambler, the short range of the AR, and the easy to tell where it's coming from combat rifle...the RR fires semi-invisible rounds that make it almost impossible to tell where the enemy is. Especially when you can be 100 meters away hiding behind a hill/ledge and your head is but a pixel on the horizon In the Legion demo we saw that the Rail Rifle is going to fire bright blue shots. This will greatly improve the balance of the weapon as being able to tell where the person is will be 100x easier than it is now. I feel ya brother
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 606	Posted - 2014.07.02 22:03:00 - [73] - Quote I hate them all equally. I guess I would give the edge to the AR though, mainly because it was the only rifle forever, and as such was the only weapon to ever show up in the kill feed. Then again I'm just a dumb specialist weapon user, so what do I know. Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 394	Posted - 2014.07.02 22:20:00 - [74] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Honestly I feel the weapons are quite balanced at the moment. Only changes I would advise would be Projectile Damage fix(-15/+15), and spread hipfire for RR. Used the RR the other day and realized why switched to the ScR, you can't have beast range and no damage drop off in CQC. Don't forget the almost non-existent recoil! ScR FTW! Bethhy wrote: Basically Dust's Core game mechanics... I hate them the most. ^^ XD So, so true. Destiny beta is only a couple weeks away! I personally hate CRs (especially the ACR) and to a lesser extent, RRs, for the same reasons many others hate them: A/CR Stupid damage profile Stupid range An ostensibly DPS-favoring weapon (you know, cuz it's an automatic rifle) that looks/feels/smells like an alpha weapon Light PG/CPU requirements RR Crazy range Way too high ROF Way too effective in CQC Hipfire accuracy is ret@rded for a long-range precision weapon Needs an optimum range similar to LR (ie, it needs to be a pretty limited area beginning about 60m and ending around 90m, effective up to whatever it currently is; anything before that range is gimped significantly) Although I sincerely dislike these weapons, I will say that the RR usually isn't too much of a hassle (sorta like avoiding a sniper, most of the time), and a big issue with CRs is cloaks--if protoscouts couldn't double-crutch with cloaks and proto A/CRs, there'd be a lot less hate toward this gun. Doesn't mean it's not OP, just means that the gun isn't the only part of the equation that makes players hate it. if you fire a bullet at point blank range... youre saying it does less damage up close, and then gains damage as it travels over distance? so by this logic, can i shoot you in the face? you should be safe at point blank range
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1234	Posted - 2014.07.03 00:04:00 - [75] - Quote I hate to say it, but I personally hate the rail rifle. Out of all of the weapons, that gun seems to hit like a freight train at any range. MY LIFE FOR AIUR! You gonna' give me orders? Bluurglleezerrgllee


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