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Athena Dare SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 95	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote CCP has taken away passive ISK from districts Yee- Ha! No more passive ISK, well that is unless you are the elite. ISK Farming, using an exploit, is the new passive. ERA and Espeon Bons are farming the h*ll of out their districts. Notice that corp called Bons ISK Bank of New Eden? The one that owns 4 districts. They simply attack themselves then no show and get 20mil isk. Cha-ching! Outer Heaven is joining them in the farmapalooza as well, with those cute lil Inner Hell districts. So CCP you've fixed nuttin' honey, except made it so that only corps with alot of districts can make ISK from PC. Awesome Darlin.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2167	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:28:00 - [2] - Quote I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Pushing Charlie 214	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:31:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I'd remove PC and just go back to corp contracts. Knight Soiaire I am the Wizard from the moon. I BELIEVE!
Mortedeamor NoGameNoLife 1748	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:35:00 - [4] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I'd remove PC and just go back to corp contracts. this seriously way this.. save broken thought of pc for legion..let pc ruin legion...bring back corp contracts no buddy wanted them gone anyway..we all loved it...we all morned the loss of it. all corps could participate..where as in pc they cannot there was no isk harvesting there was no reason for ccp to get rid of corp contracts for pc....there is even less of a reason to keep pc around now that they have given up on dust and it will never amount to anything as grand as what they originally said it would
Athena Dare SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 95	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:36:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I don't have a fix darlin' but at least Passive ISK farming used to be for everyone, before the patch.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2167	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:39:00 - [6] - Quote Athena Dare wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I don't have a fix darlin' but at least Passive ISK farming used to be for everyone, before the patch. And by "everyone" you mean everyone who was in PC . It's a little funny to see someone complaining that they're being left out of the ISK farm, given your Alliance tag. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1224	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:43:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Athena Dare wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I don't have a fix darlin' but at least Passive ISK farming used to be for everyone, before the patch. And by "everyone" you mean everyone who was in PC . It's a little funny to see someone complaining that they're being left out of the ISK farm, given your Alliance tag. While that is kinda true, PC is not inviting for players and all it has ever been is a problem, a place full of lag and bugs or more recently, just a place for people to exploit the game. I never took part in corp battles but from what I have heard they are exactly what most people are looking for. Corp Vs Corp./ Test your skills. Why are the small things in this game always the greatest challenges!? Investigate 9/11
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2167	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:47:00 - [8] - Quote That aside, corp battles would be a great addition but I fear that's beyond the scope of what CCP is willing to do for Dust at this time. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 4443	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:49:00 - [9] - Quote Is this why ERA wanted STB to have districts so badly... Earn 500Mil ISK I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 52Mil SP) Chat Channel: Vik PC
vlad stoich Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:03:00 - [10] - Quote Athena Dare wrote: CCP has taken away passive ISK from districts Yee- Ha! No more passive ISK, well that is unless you are the elite. ISK Farming, using an exploit, is the new passive. ERA and Espeon Bons are farming the h*ll of out their districts. Notice that corp called Bons ISK Bank of New Eden? The one that owns 4 districts. They simply attack themselves then no show and get 20mil isk. Cha-ching! Outer Heaven is joining them in the farmapalooza as well, with those cute lil Inner Hell districts. So CCP you've fixed nuttin' honey, except made it so that only corps with alot of districts can make ISK from PC. Awesome Darlin. LOL Kinda funny that STB and ERA are butt buddies but yet here you are airing dirty laundry. Maybe you should have ran that up the chain. That way for the war room -------->

The BIackfish 0	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote If this is true,wow
vlad stoich Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:07:00 - [12] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Athena Dare wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I don't have a fix darlin' but at least Passive ISK farming used to be for everyone, before the patch. And by "everyone" you mean everyone who was in PC . It's a little funny to see someone complaining that they're being left out of the ISK farm, given your Alliance tag. While that is kinda true, PC is not inviting for players and all it has ever been is a problem, a place full of lag and bugs or more recently, just a place for people to exploit the game. I never took part in corp battles but from what I have heard they are exactly what most people are looking for. Corp Vs Corp./ Test your skills. Why are the small things in this game always the greatest challenges!? PC shouldn't be inviting for all players. Check the Carebear attitude at Pubs.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3369	Posted - 2014.06.30 21:57:00 - [13] - Quote This is not passive ISK farming. Some 1 actually has to show up and sit there to collect the money. And you are lowering the clone count from some districts to keep attacking which makes them easy to attack.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2033	Posted - 2014.06.30 22:19:00 - [14] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: That aside, corp battles would be a great addition but I fear that's beyond the scope of what CCP is willing to do for Dust at this time. But your missing the biggest part of this statement... Why? Why are corp contracts so much better then PC? What about them makes it different? What did you get at the end or through the win that gave you an incentive to do one? Why did we even do corporation battles then? was it in anticipation for something?
vlad stoich Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 180	Posted - 2014.06.30 22:27:00 - [15] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: That aside, corp battles would be a great addition but I fear that's beyond the scope of what CCP is willing to do for Dust at this time. But your missing the biggest part of this statement... Why? Why are corp contracts so much better then PC? What about them makes it different? What did you get at the end or through the win that gave you an incentive to do one? Why did we even do corporation battles then? was it in anticipation for something? Unless you already have expectations of the correct answers, I think the point behind to getting back to Corp battles is 2 fold 1) stops the isk farming--done but a little too late. 2) Puts Corps Vs. Corps---not 15 ringers + 1 Corp member against 16 corps members that get slaughtered or butt hurt about all the ringers
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2033	Posted - 2014.06.30 22:37:00 - [16] - Quote vlad stoich wrote: Bethhy wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: That aside, corp battles would be a great addition but I fear that's beyond the scope of what CCP is willing to do for Dust at this time. But your missing the biggest part of this statement... Why? Why are corp contracts so much better then PC? What about them makes it different? What did you get at the end or through the win that gave you an incentive to do one? Why did we even do corporation battles then? was it in anticipation for something? Unless you already have expectations of the correct answers, I think the point behind to getting back to Corp battles is 2 fold 1) stops the isk farming--done but a little too late. 2) Puts Corps Vs. Corps---not 15 ringers + 1 Corp member against 16 corps members that get slaughtered or butt hurt about all the ringers There where ringers then too... Yet again people that NEVER did something talk about how it is better. ISK farming are you serious? Do you have ANY math to back up the bullshit spewing out of you? Are you just copying that from the newbs that have NEVER done or a PC and talk about farming. The Average PC player is Broke. In the HEIGHT of PC farming the average player was broke. The only players that are rich are the ones who can run Proto-type suits in Public matches at a profit and have been doing it long before they played any PC. This is just the facts of the PC world. The ISK even generated in PC at max potential with accounting for NO LOSSES WHAT SO EVER... doesn't even equate the the ISK being earned in DUST right now by players making new chracters trasnfering the 250k off Biomassing and doing that for 4 accounts every day. Corp battles where NEVER 16vs16... we didnt even HAVE those player counts then... You cou;dn't choose who you faced it was a contract anyone could take.. and Pink Fluffy bounty Hunterz and Impz where always on standby waiting to take on those contracts. There was no pay out so the entire thing was just to fight. Leaving it TRULY an elitist game where only people with expendable ISK could participate... Like seriously there isn't nothing corp contracts offer over PC except smaller player counts in matches.. We want an END game in DUST, Not just endless Pub grinds. And the average person commenting on general discussion hasn't even participated but have ways of fixing a system they barely understand. This is DUST in a nutshell a bunch of uninformed ignorant people that barely know the whole story CUZ CCP is so bad at relaying the facts so there is no dispute. And these are the peoples with the biggest opinions and NON stop have this brilliant idea that will change DUST and make it more CoD player friendly.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15667	Posted - 2014.06.30 22:41:00 - [17] - Quote I rather individual players get paid in isk in PC matches + additional random salvage with higher rolls in proto/officer level. Also FW isk pay; remove FW item isk cost. Also increase WP payout in pubs and slightly nerf (like 5%) participation isk. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2034	Posted - 2014.06.30 22:43:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I rather individual players get paid in isk in PC matches + additional random salvage with higher rolls in proto/officer level. Also FW isk pay; remove FW item isk cost. Also increase WP payout in pubs and slightly nerf (like 5%) participation isk. Individual player payouts hurt the entire corporation structure in DUST. Ruins the community and the team spirit around PC and turns it into individual aspirations rather then a goal of a group. This is echoed today in every major PC entity... And it's such a drastic contrast from when PC started and everyone pitched in together to get collective rewards at the end.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 972	Posted - 2014.06.30 23:23:00 - [19] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Individual player payouts hurt the entire corporation structure in DUST. Ruins the community and the team spirit around PC and turns it into individual aspirations rather then a goal of a group. This. It comes down to "Who's dropping 50 mill for the next clone pack?" The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
Everything Dies Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 788	Posted - 2014.07.01 00:31:00 - [20] - Quote Excuse my ignorance, but what was the purpose of the old corp battles? Was it simply a match between two corps exclusively, or was there some sort of "prize" to be obtained (i.e. districts in PC) for the victor? Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof: Listen

Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1538	Posted - 2014.07.01 01:11:00 - [21] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what was the purpose of the old corp battles? Was it simply a match between two corps exclusively, or was there some sort of "prize" to be obtained (i.e. districts in PC) for the victor? It was solely for bragging rights. Nothing more. It was 8v8, if memory serves correct and there was no payout at the end. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.07.01 01:14:00 - [22] - Quote What pub players are failing to see: PC is a business. Of course they found a way to make money in PC. If you don't like it, stick to pubs and nerfing weapons.
deezy dabest Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers 702	Posted - 2014.07.01 01:31:00 - [23] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm curious, if you were in charge, how would you change the system to prevent ISK farming? I'd remove PC and just go back to corp contracts. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2220924#post2220924 Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2039	Posted - 2014.07.01 01:51:00 - [24] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Everything Dies wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what was the purpose of the old corp battles? Was it simply a match between two corps exclusively, or was there some sort of "prize" to be obtained (i.e. districts in PC) for the victor? It was solely for bragging rights. Nothing more. It was 8v8, if memory serves correct and there was no payout at the end. Yup 8vs8 and rewards 0isk 0 SP. And that was when everyone was a bit strapped for cash. Teams would often loose 20 mil in suits collectively.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. 10065	Posted - 2014.07.01 01:56:00 - [25] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: And by "everyone" you mean everyone who was in PC . It's a little funny to see someone complaining that they're being left out of the ISK farm, given your Alliance tag. This is what we like to call a "fail post". STB is still in PC, and are even in the same alliance as ERA. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Athena Dare SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 97	Posted - 2014.07.01 04:16:00 - [26] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: This is not passive ISK farming. Some 1 actually has to show up and sit there to collect the money. And you are lowering the clone count from some districts to keep attacking which makes them easy to attack. 1 person has to show up for 1 min and hack 1 point then leave, thats it. Don't worry hun, I know it's amazingly complex for a brain such as yours.
Athena Dare SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 97	Posted - 2014.07.01 04:21:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: And by "everyone" you mean everyone who was in PC . It's a little funny to see someone complaining that they're being left out of the ISK farm, given your Alliance tag. This is what we like to call a "fail post". STB is still in PC, and are even in the same alliance as ERA. I'm just saying we're earning the big bucks cheating while you have to grind for it. Thank you CCP.
Athena Dare SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 97	Posted - 2014.07.01 04:26:00 - [28] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Everything Dies wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what was the purpose of the old corp battles? Was it simply a match between two corps exclusively, or was there some sort of "prize" to be obtained (i.e. districts in PC) for the victor? It was solely for bragging rights. Nothing more. It was 8v8, if memory serves correct and there was no payout at the end. Exactly you don't make no ISK for corp battles, there is no reason on god green earth for people to play lil daddy. They need some ISK to encourage them.
The BIackfish 0	Posted - 2014.07.01 04:33:00 - [29] - Quote is there any sort of evidence you can provide that backs up your claim??
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 471	Posted - 2014.07.01 08:34:00 - [30] - Quote Just an FYI to clarify a few things A. Corp battles were contracts that a corp could set up and "Bet" a certain amount of ISK from the corp wallet that they could beat a competitor. This contracts would then be put up on a board for any and all corps to see and take A rival may take the contract, if they can match the original bet made by the poster The victor would win the sum of the both corps (Original bet x2), but individual players were not paid by the match itself, reimbursements would have to come from the corp itself B. 0.H. Is currently giving away free districts to any and all 16 man, capable PC corps in the Almur system that are new or upcoming into PC Inner.Hell has taken on the burden of several of these districts until districts are distributed BECAUSE no one is willing to attack 0.H. For PC even though we constanly empty clones, we send attacks to I.H. districts to practice our small tactics sometimes, but mostly no show the battles I.H. is a 0% tax currently, we do not make any ISK off the attacks and if someone is jumping in the battle for 0.H. To farm the battle, its to prepare the corp wallet for war in case Almur is blitzed Players aren't padding wallets And we aren't just sitting here making our 400 Billion ISK corp wallet fatter like many corps have done in years past We are broke in comparison No one is attacking us And no one wants to pipe up for districts And people cry every single time we attack them about how they are sorry for anything they have done to upset them and please do not flip their districts Honestly I don't know what else to do with these things In fact, we have purposefully not re-upped about 25 district flips in the last week and a half because we don't want more districts C. Is that an AE player complaining about not having enough ISK to play PC when I know for a fact that your top players were making upwards of 100 Mil paychecks per week? Ive seen the wallets man, and I've heard about the lot Who you trying to fool? D. The ISK making districts for ERA and bons are surely being locked the second they go online, so there really isn't any way to stop them from farming it everyday except to sit there on the trigger for an hour daily and snipe the districts I'm sure But honestly i havnt been on much the past week due to RL so all this may be untrue Closed Beta Vet/ Chromosome and Corp battle Vet/ Uprising 1.0-Now PC vet Ex D.F. Director Current Inner.Hell Director



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