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        |  Egonz4
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 22:58:00 -
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 Some people say rifles cuz it requires good aim and some people say explosive weapons pike the PC,FL, or MD.
 
 What do you think?...
 
 Share your opinion and ill round up the votes
 
 1.
 
 2.
 
 3.
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  Forlorn Destrier
 
 2585
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:00:00 -
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 Scrambler Pistol
 Plasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 
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        |  shaman oga
 Nexus Balusa Horizon
 
 2374
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:03:00 -
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 Swarm launcher
 
 PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook. | 
      
      
        |  Rynoceros
 Rise Of Old Dudes
 
 4078
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:04:00 -
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 1) PLC
 
 2) FG
 
 3) ScrP
 
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        |  Egonz4
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:05:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 11337
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:05:00 -
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 Egonz4 wrote:Some people say rifles cuz it requires good aim and some people say projectile weapons pike the PC,FL, or MD.
 What do you think?...
 
 Share your opinion and ill round up the votes
 
 1.
 
 2.
 
 3.
 
 
 None of those weapons you listed are classified as projectile weapons.....
 
 Either way (and I am only considering Light and Heavy weapons not side arms)
 
 1.) Plasma Cannon
 2.) Laser Rifle
 3.) Mass Driver
 
 " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts." | 
      
      
        |  Egonz4
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:05:00 -
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 shaman oga wrote:Swarm launcher Lol
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  DUST Fiend
 Onslaught Inc
 RISE of LEGION
 
 14511
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:07:00 -
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 Small railgun on the front of a dropship vs infantry
 
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        |  Spectre-M
 The Generals
 
 568
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:11:00 -
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 Different weapons require different skills. They also come with various drawbacks, which is a huge influence on skill level required.
 
 Rifles usually require aiming skill. Needing to track your target directly requires accuracy.
 
 AoE weapons usually require timing and position. Being in suitable situatuions requires battle awareness including map knowledge.
 
 For me it would be PLC, flaylock and ScP.
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 15050
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:25:00 -
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 1. Plasma cannon.
 
 2. Ion pistol.
 
 3. Bolt pistol.
 
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        |  BLOOD Ruler
 The Lionheart Coalition
 
 402
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:33:00 -
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 Most skill type weapons is 1.Nova knives,2.Plasma cannon,and 3.scramble pistol.
  
 Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin. | 
      
      
        |  Denchlad 7
 The Last of DusT.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 324
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:34:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:1. Plasma cannon.
 2. Ion pistol.
 
 3. Bolt pistol.
 
 
 I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. 5 to go. | 
      
      
        |  Forlorn Destrier
 
 2585
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:36:00 -
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 Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay 
 I don't use aim assist - and if that were true why doesn't everyone fit them? The only time I've seen them on the kill feed is when I'm using them. (Also, I actually aim with them, I don't hip fire.)
 
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        |  Lea Silencio
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1529
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:38:00 -
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 Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay 
 You ask the community...yet...you critique what they say? Lol@you.
 
 
 PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor | 
      
      
        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 15052
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:42:00 -
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 Lea Silencio wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay You ask the community...yet...you critique what they say? Lol@you. 
 He was expecting it to be 'flaylock, flaylock, flaylock'.
  
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 11340
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:44:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay You ask the community...yet...you critique what they say? Lol@you. He was expecting it to be 'flaylock, flaylock, flaylock'.   
 Or
 Plasmalock like his God Uncle Pyrex said in one of his more recent videos...... I mean come on guys.....the underlying sexual tension in here has to be killing him......
 
 " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts." | 
      
      
        |  Sadman 1213
 Horizons' Edge
 Proficiency V.
 
 7
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:46:00 -
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 I think this is the list of weapons that require most skill to operate, hardest to easier:-
 
 1. Laser Rifles
 
 2. Plasma Cannon
 
 3. Laser Rifle (again)
 
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Cult of Gasai
 
 5521
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:47:00 -
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 Not counting sidearms, for obvious reasons
 1. Plasma cannon
 2. Mass driver (difficulty of breach mass drivers does not imply needing skill, because there's no reward to mastering them)
 3. Forge gun
 
 As you can see, I like weapons with travel times, rather than easy-mode hitscan assault weapons.
 Honorable mention to shotguns, because the difficulty in placement is underrated.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 11340
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.29 23:48:00 -
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 Sadman 1213 wrote:I think this is the list of weapons that require most skill to operate, hardest to easier:-
 1. Laser Rifles
 
 2. Plasma Cannon
 
 3. Laser Rifle (again)
 
 
 I like you....you seem to know what is up.
 
 " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts." | 
      
      
        |  Llast 326
 An Arkhos
 
 3807
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 00:11:00 -
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 Flaylock - Breach if you want to really check your skill
 
 Plasma Canon - It's a freaking artform to land shots with this.. but once you do \o/
 
 Ion Pistol - If you learn to use this you know it takes skill to use
 
 Nova Knives - If you just use them to take out snipers and hackers then you have not explored the full learning curve of these fantastic weapons.
 
 That would be four that I consider to take skill to use, but not in any particular order
 
 Other weapons do require skillGǪ
 Laser rifle does now, when slowdown was in effect, it did not require as much skill to use as now.
 Mass Driver, it can be spammed and be effective, but figuring range and ark out can take some learning to be truly effective with it.
 Assault variants of the Rifles are really not what I consider something that needs skill to use.
 HMGGǪ maybe if the overheat actually mattered, even then you can spray walls of bullets without much concern.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 New Age Empire.
 
 1584
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 00:26:00 -
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 Egonz4 wrote:Some people say rifles cuz it requires good aim and some people say explosive weapons pike the PC,FL, or MD.
 What do you think?...
 
 Share your opinion and ill round up the votes
 
 1.
 
 2.
 
 3.
 Flp
 Plc
 
 Closed beta vet.
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        |  Cody Sietz
 SVER True Blood
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 3437
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 00:36:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:1. Plasma cannon.
 2. Ion pistol.
 
 3. Bolt pistol.
 Check.
 
 "I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire | 
      
      
        |  Egonz4
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 00:38:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay You ask the community...yet...you critique what they say? Lol@you. He was expecting it to be 'flaylock, flaylock, flaylock'.   Or Plasmalock like his God Uncle Pyrex said in one of his more recent videos...... I mean come on guys.....the underlying sexual tension in here has to be killing him...... Well first off I just think ScP's are really easy to use with aim assist....and they are probably the most used pistol.....whoever thinks they are the most challenging weapon obvoliously hasn't tried the bolt pistol cuz that's obviously harder to use......and yes the Flaylock is a hard weapon to use but IMO the hardest is the plasma cannon.....and Pyrex us very very far from my god....or anywhere near that........so yeah tge ScP is easy to use
 
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        |  Appia Vibbia
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 3050
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 01:02:00 -
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 Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 
 Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia | 
      
      
        |  Lea Silencio
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1529
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 01:05:00 -
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 Appia Vibbia wrote:Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 
 ^ Spoken truth.
 
 
 PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor | 
      
      
        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Gentlemen's.Club
 
 4422
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 01:06:00 -
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 people don't use the ion pistol because they don't have the skill for, people don't use the ion pistol because it is a bad weapon.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 11345
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 01:16:00 -
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 Lea Silencio wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 ^ Spoken truth. 
 Gotta admit I would never want to walk down a dark alley knowing you and Tiberius are in the same solar system........... still I'll catch up with the two of you some time.....maybe if I stop tanking so much and get back into Amarr Assault......its been far too long.
 
 " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts." | 
      
      
        |  Appia Vibbia
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 3050
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 01:21:00 -
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 Damn, that reminds me, I was pretty close to where Tib said he lives. Should have remembered to invite him for a drink.
 
 Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia | 
      
      
        |  1st Lieutenant Tiberius
 0uter.Heaven
 
 2006
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 02:15:00 -
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 Appia Vibbia wrote:Damn, that reminds me, I was pretty close to where Tib said he lives. Should have remembered to invite him for a drink. 
 That would be nice :)
 
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        |  Lorhak Gannarsein
 Legio DXIV
 
 3892
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 02:19:00 -
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 1. Scrambler Rifle
 
 2. Scrambler Pistol
 
 3. That other weapon that I use
 
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 New Age Empire.
 
 1585
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 03:03:00 -
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 Appia Vibbia wrote:
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 http://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M
 
 Closed beta vet.
If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic | 
      
      
        |  Ghost Kaisar
 The Last of DusT.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5609
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 03:03:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay You ask the community...yet...you critique what they say? Lol@you. He was expecting it to be 'flaylock, flaylock, flaylock'.   Or Plasmalock like his God Uncle Pyrex said in one of his more recent videos...... I mean come on guys.....the underlying sexual tension in here has to be killing him...... 
 I'm still waiting for the Hynox Fanfic
 
 He should change his sig to
 
 "CEO PYREX NOTICE ME SENPAI"
 
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        |  Funkmaster Whale
 Whale Farm
 
 2328
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 03:13:00 -
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 1. Your brain.
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
 6250
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 03:19:00 -
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 1. Plasma Cannon, No need to explain this one, at all.
 
 2. Flaylock Pistol, Mostly because of overnerf and poor mechanics this weapon is no longer good. Besides knowing when to land your shots the weapon relies on a lot of luck because a lot of the times, the shots simply do not register/
 
 3. Ion Pistol, the flaylock is last but not by much. All of the issues said with the flaylock can be said with the Ion Pistol, only that the Ion Pistol is slightly more reliable to land shots.
 
 Anywho who says forge gun is an absolute scrub.
 
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        |  Ghost Kaisar
 The Last of DusT.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5615
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 03:28:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:1. Plasma Cannon, No need to explain this one, at all.
 2. Flaylock Pistol, Mostly because of overnerf and poor mechanics this weapon is no longer good. Besides knowing when to land your shots the weapon relies on a lot of luck because a lot of the times, the shots simply do not register/
 
 3. Ion Pistol, the flaylock is last but not by much. All of the issues said with the flaylock can be said with the Ion Pistol, only that the Ion Pistol is slightly more reliable to land shots.
 
 Anywho who says forge gun is an absolute scrub.
 
 I've killed more infantry with my forge than tanks sadly.
 
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        |  Assault Swarm Launcher
 Caldari State
 
 183
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 04:31:00 -
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 Me, because that moment when your secondary's out of ammo and a Clacked Scout rushes towards you..
 
 "Chances are I'm going to kill you or replace you with something new..." -CCP Logibro | 
      
      
        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 New Age Empire.
 
 1587
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 04:41:00 -
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 Assault Swarm Launcher wrote:Me, because that moment when your secondary's out of ammo and a Clacked Scout rushes towards you.. Swarms still take no skill...
 
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If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic | 
      
      
        |  OP FOTM
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 101
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 05:55:00 -
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 None of your three choices.
 
 Nova knives.
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        |  Dj grammer
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 269
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 06:02:00 -
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 1st place: Plasma Cannon
 2nd place: Nova Knifes
 3rd place: Laser Rifle
 
 
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        |  Medic 1879
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
 2052
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 10:55:00 -
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 1. Plasma cannon - Vehicles can dodge any mid range shots easily (especially DS's they just need to drift lazily to avoid the slow moving easy to spot giant ball of plasma)
 2. Ion Pistol - weirdly large dispersion for a pistol, low range, low damage but has a high ROF and overheats? Charge shot is about as useful as nipples on a breastplate proto doesn't seem like much of an upgrade and looks exactly the same. On the plus side victims feel an overwhelming amount of shame.
 3. Mass driver - In a favourable situation it is incredibly easy to use, if you have the height advantage and you have a good ammo/flux supply you are laughing clearing a room is also a strong point of this weapon. However on even ground 1v1 the DPS is quite low and skilled opponents will rip you apart unless you can manage to strafe their fire while making everyone of your limited supply count. Used for squad support from behind your team is a good tactic but can be deadly in FW/PC if one of the guys your lobbing shots over suddenly decides to go all hoppity.
 
 Also some of my favourite weapons in the game so I may be biased, MD IP combo works well if you have run out of fluxes though, however PLC IP combo is not a brilliant idea to be honest.
 
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        |  Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
 848
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 11:27:00 -
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 Appia Vibbia wrote:Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 
 Bolt pistol doesn't even count as a weapon, it's range is nonexsistant. It's not difficult to use, it's difficult to get within firing distance without dying.
 
 Sniper rifles... bah, I once lodged 5 bullets into the body of a heavy who was standing still in the middle of a field, he wasn't moving, and I was about 150m away... No damage was dealt, and the guy never knew I was firing at him. :/
 Proto versions of snipers only offer 4 DPS over their standard partners. sure it says 20 health, but you have to take the time to aim each shot, you can't just spam away like the other guns. Plus those other guns get about 20 DPS per tier... It's rather clear that the devs aren't taking any time to look at snipers, nor the mechanics around them.
 
 http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU 
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        |  Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
 
 689
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 11:51:00 -
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 1. Flaylock Pistol
 2. PLC
 3. Nova Knives
 
 "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill | 
      
      
        |  INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
 
 475
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 12:42:00 -
          [43] - Quote 
 
 Egonz4 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Scrambler PistolPlasma Cannon
 Mass Driver
 
 Scrambler pistol....really? Aim assist does everything for you on that....whatever okay Everyone has their opinion, no? Do the tally vote taker, stop critizing the participants. Its also important to note that there is a diffrence between a weapon taking skill to use, and a, weapon just sucking.
 
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        |  Korvin Lomont
 United Pwnage Service
 RISE of LEGION
 
 996
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 13:25:00 -
          [44] - Quote 
 
 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:1. Plasma cannon.
 2. Ion pistol.
 
 3. Bolt pistol.
 
 Jup I agree a pretty good list..
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        |  DERP33
 Glitched Connection
 
 9
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 13:28:00 -
          [45] - Quote 
 
 DUST Fiend wrote:Small railgun on the front of a dropship vs infantry  
 small blaster on the front of a dropship killing infantry
 | 
      
      
        |  Atiim
 Fooly Cooly.
 
 10036
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 14:43:00 -
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 Appia Vibbia wrote:Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 The only thing that's even remotely difficult about the Scrambler Rifle is the overheat, and that takes all of 5 minutes to get used to (or you could go Amarr Assault and not have to worry about it).
 
 To suggest that the ScR has a steeper learning curve than that of a Sniper Rifle, Plasma Cannon, Flaylock & Bolt Pistol, Breach Mass Driver, etc, etc. is not only hilarious, but false.
 
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 New Age Empire.
 
 1589
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 16:11:00 -
          [47] - Quote 
 
 jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:http://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 Im still going.
 
 Closed beta vet.
If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic | 
      
      
        |  Boot Booter
 Sinq Laison Gendarmes
 Gallente Federation
 
 637
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 16:16:00 -
          [48] - Quote 
 1. Flaylock
 
 2. Nova Knives
 
 3. Plasma Cannon
 
 SMG Specialist | 
      
      
        |  Vulpes Dolosus
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1660
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 16:28:00 -
          [49] - Quote 
 
 DUST Fiend wrote:Small blaster on the front of a dropship vs infantry  FTFY
 
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        |  Hynox Xitio
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1375
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 16:30:00 -
          [50] - Quote 
 HMG, pure skill.
 
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        |  INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
 
 479
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.30 21:02:00 -
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 Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 Bolt pistol doesn't even count as a weapon, it's range is nonexsistant. It's not difficult to use, it's difficult to get within firing distance without dying. Sniper rifles... bah, I once lodged 5 bullets into the body of a heavy who was standing still in the middle of a field, he wasn't moving, and I was about 150m away... No damage was dealt, and the guy never knew I was firing at him. :/  Proto versions of snipers only offer 4 DPS over their standard partners. sure it says 20 health, but you have to take the time to aim each shot, you can't just spam away like the other guns. Plus those other guns get about 20 DPS per tier... It's rather clear that the devs aren't taking any time to look at snipers, nor the mechanics around them. Its clear you are not doing maths and figuring out that damage increases by 5% per tier with every gun in the game including snipers.
 
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 INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Its clear you are not doing maths and figuring out that damage increases by 5% per tier with every gun in the game including snipers.
 Not every gun.
 
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 INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Bolt Pistol: Small clip, charge up time, no headshot multiplier like Scrambler Pistol
 Sniper Rifle: Not the actual capacity to aim and kill but dealing with it having such terrible hit-detection
 
 Scrambler Rifle: It has the steepest learning curve of all the weapons. You can see those that are OK with it, those that know what they are doing, then there are the guys that are completely dedicated to it- many of them are in 0uter.Heaven right now.
 Bolt pistol doesn't even count as a weapon, it's range is nonexsistant. It's not difficult to use, it's difficult to get within firing distance without dying. Sniper rifles... bah, I once lodged 5 bullets into the body of a heavy who was standing still in the middle of a field, he wasn't moving, and I was about 150m away... No damage was dealt, and the guy never knew I was firing at him. :/  Proto versions of snipers only offer 4 DPS over their standard partners. sure it says 20 health, but you have to take the time to aim each shot, you can't just spam away like the other guns. Plus those other guns get about 20 DPS per tier... It's rather clear that the devs aren't taking any time to look at snipers, nor the mechanics around them. Its clear you are not doing maths and figuring out that damage increases by 5% per tier with every gun in the game including snipers. 
 Basic Sniper 200 damage
 
 Ishukone Sniper 220 damage... Time of shot takes about 3 seconds to re-align 20/3 = about 7dps over 2 tiers total
 
 Assault rifles gaining even 2 point of damage increases the DPS by 20 per tier..
 
 THEN we have accuracy to account for, as operating an assault rifle at optimum range is far easier than operating a sniper at it's optimum. A few missed bullets with the AR means nothing, but a single missed bullet with the sniper means your target got away in most cases.
 
 Don't come out waving nonsense when I've already got the math out.
 
 Assault Rifle 800 Rpm = 13.3333 rounds per second
 ===Damage Per Second===
 STD 411
 ADV 432
 PRO 453
 
 Sniper Rifle 1 shot every 2 seconds (assumed) =1/2 rounds per second
 ===Damage Per Second===
 STD 100
 ADV 105
 PRO 110
 
 
 
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 Hmg, obviously
 
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