"Return the blaster to where it was or at least introduce a skill that tightens the dispersion"

I will say that I'm not much of a Vehicle Pilot myself but from what I've experienced with Tanks these last few weeks I have to agree with you on this. The Blaster Turrets (Large and Small) should get a reduction to that obscene dispersion or a Sharpshooter skill added to their skill lists (Or why not both? I like both ).

Blasters I'll agree with you there. Dispersion needs reigned in a bit. I like the notion of a very small base tightening and adding a Sharpshooter skill at the same time.

As far as your railgun QQ is concerned, the triple nerf was steep, but not unwarranted. I think adding a little range (back up to 400-450m) wouldn't be remiss. And as far as the Damage Mods are concerned, they can go die in a fire. For so damn long have I had ADSs shot down because they were retardedly high +% and no stacking penalties. What DMods are like now is absolutely fine: people just got used to them being OP for so long that the crutch being taken away causes an even harder fall.

if you want anti personnel equip the small turrets too. the large ones are for AV only really so quite your belly aching

F*cking thank you! Just make variations of turrets like they had before CCP screwed vehicles in 1.7.

Make a skill for blaster dispersion: 5% less dispersion on blaster per level.

Scattered Blasters - Higher damage per shot at the cost of a higher dispersion.

Stabilized Blasters - Much less damage per shot with more range and far less dispersion, useful vs infantry.

Compressed Blasters - Very high damage per shot at the cost of a big RoF nerf.

Also, bring back heatsinks!

In PC, tanks shouldn't be targeting infantry anyways.

You have more important things to do, such as keeping those damn dropships from swooping in on us.

Swooping is bad.

To be fair Large Turrets shouldn't be designed to takedown infantry...... I wish the Large Blaster was a Semi Auto plasma cannon.

I'm not saying tanks shouldn't take out infantry.

That is why we have small turrets mounted. We can't just expect to be able to stack a main gun and destroy everything.

HAV should be the top tier Anti Vehicle platform on the field, deployed sparsely with heavy SP and ISK investment ( 500K currently is a fair investment) to attain vehicle dominance and clear all enemy vehicles from the field.

If HAV want to destroy infantry or be protected from them then we need to either work with our squads more closely or mount gunner slots.

Perhaps We could ask CCP if we could cycle between out large and small turrets. I mean modern tanks fit co-axial machine guns and CROWS for a reason.

Changes I would like to see
A passive skill for tighter dispersion and/or nonstupid dispersion decay
The rail range buffed and heat build up buffed so that it can fire 5 consecutive shots without overheat

I miss meaningful core skills hell I don't even have damage mods to 5 because 3 was high enough for the longest time unless it was a complete glass cannon and I felt points into speed hacking and links was more useful now that their kinda pointless to run on most fits I might not even get that to 5.

I drive vehicles, a lot.

The vehicular anti-infantry should be relegated to Small Guns mounted on the tank, not the main turret.

There are still plenty of reasons to bat phone in rails. an infantry team being 'suppressed' by a Blaster Tank can't effectively move from one objective to another, so needs the tank removed. It would be the same if the blaster tank could hit and kill them, they'd find another way, or call in a Rail / Missile Tank to deal with the pesky Blaster Tank.

You want Tanks to multi-function? Run multiple people. Then, with 2 people in the HAV, you WILL wreck the opposing team... with 3, you'll do it even more if you set up and run the HAV right. If you want a single driver / commander to fulfil multiple roles, then expect those multiple roles to be reduced in effectiveness so that you don't get OP again.

This guy gets it.

Large Blasters need to be a threat to infantry, not a "suppressant" as Rattati puts it. Vehicles need some form of an effective counter to infantry, and large blasters are it. Blaster tanks get used to kill infantry and missile/railgun tanks are pulled out to eliminate the blaster tanks and AV does its best to push off or destroy these missile/railgun tanks.

Now, there's little reason to run blaster tanks, if any at all, if there's any proto AV on the field. Blaster tanks cannot kill infantry beyond 30 meters and anything beyond that is just pure luck. If blaster tanks aren't used, then neither are missile/railgun tanks.

All of my SP is into vehicles and I'm disappointed that blasters got the nerf, because most of my pay came from destroying blaster tanks with my missile Gunnlogi. The only time I encounter blaster tanks is because my blueberries don't have anything skilled beyond standard so they get stomped by protos and blaster tanks run unopposed. Otherwise, I feel like my Gunnlogi now acts as bait just so that another tank shows up so I have something juicy to shoot at.

Lol thinks PC corp gives him the right to talk down to other players........

I know right, must be a new guy. He just doesn't realize that I've smacked down my fair share of outer heaven "tankers". Don't worry OH, DDB is bringin tha tankin thunda. Me and my boy kami are BACK!

I played PC from Uprising 1.0 until now. Because YOU haven't seen me, doesn't mean I'm not in PC.

That being aside... in PC, you're using a Tank to mow down infantry solo, you SHOULD be able to be killed solo by the very targets you are mowing down. If you are required to have 2 people in your tank to simultaneously deal with both Vehicles and Infantry, then the power of the HAV can be increased exponentially so that 1 AV cannot be as effective against you.

Oh, and that guy in your turret, he's also fitted for battle, so you know, he can jump out, kill some guys, hack a turret, and get back in. You're talking as if he is completely confined within that zone, when he's not. Only the Commander is constrained to that extent to prevent enemies taking the HAV, or a team mate jumping into the wrong seat.

In effect you are using your HAV to multiply his effectiveness too. He can move faster, do more damage without wasting his own weapon's clip, and be protected inside your hull. All for giving up some manoeuvrability. With the option to get out, shoot people in the face as required.

Not sure where I mentioned serious buff to Small Turrets...

the current Small Railgun can take out an ADS, or at least make it go away.

Been running my HAV like that for a long time. My particular build was nothing special against other tanks when it was just me...... but put Aero and Humble Seeker in my turrets and no enemy tank could take us down unless I did something utter ridiculous.

DPS dude.

Small Railguns effectively nullify either Reps or Hardeners meaning I am applying the full damage of my main gun despite you using actives of heavy reps.

Works for me.

I can hit people well enough from 50m; just take it slowly, do it carefully.

Yep, definitely those stationary strafing militia proto 1500 EHP AFG noobs.

Time your shots. Hold down the trigger and expect to miss. Short bursts, maybe even single shots. Or just QQ, I guess.

Been doing it for months now it rarely fails.

You like throwing that around a lot.

I shall away to ask yon Tiberius if I could join OH if I wanted to...... probably could..... I have too much respect of Lea and Tiberius as Amarr FW buddies to make comments about OH though.

In the end you either do or don't believe me. It does work, it wins matches before they even begin.

Small Railguns currently do enough damage to hurt vehicles.

STD Railgun is 334 Damage per shot. Firing a shot every .7 s, for a DPS of 477.14 (rounded). For 9-10 shot until overheat.

9 shots is 3006 Damage in 13 (rounded) seconds.

10 Shots is 3340 Damage in 14 (rounded) seconds.


Compared to the STD Forge gun (No Damage Mods).

1200 Damage per shot, with a charge Time of 4 seconds, for 300 DPS. With a max shot count of 4 in the clip.

I know you ...

Posted: 2014.05.17 22:44
Weekly Statistics
DUNA2002 - 2,637 kills, 9 deaths
Shadow of War88 - 462 kills, 6 deaths

^ Though this week was an exceptionally good week for farming infantry, right?

Do you think these numbers mean that you and Duna are good or that something is broken?
Can you not see how risk-free farming and PvE-like statistics might cause problems?
After months on end of button mashing, how is it that you and your ilk did not become bored?

In the past there was a role that REQUIRED gunners to be effective. It was the DropShip pre-ADS and it was horrible. The ultimate goal of any DS pilot was to go 0/0. For many, many months this issue was bitterly complained about from pilots and eventually the ADS was created to at least allow some participation by the pilot himself.

I'd really rather not repeat the mistakes of the past here.

There are many arguments about a "role" that tanks should play. Sadly, unless there is some hidden design team within CCP working on these things we likely won't see anything for Dust 514. For now the role has to be killing infantry because killing infantry is the basis for everything else such as ground AV and counter tanking roles. If a tank cannot kill infantry even with just the driver than there is no reason for all of these other roles as the game stands now.

I have heard many complaints about the large blaster. However, the problem was much more multifaceted than just calling out this one item. The fact is that a large part of the problem was that tanks were mostly invincible from infantry based AV. It took both of these things to be in place to create the recent tank issues we had. If AV had been more effective than Large Blaster complaints would have been much less.

Now, we have a situation were AV has been empowered via bug fixes, buffs, and damage profile corrections. At the same time we have nerfs to Vehicle repair, range, and turret damage and accuracy. In addition there are reports from CPM that acceleration is being looked at. All of these have swung the scales of balance in the opposite direction. Being a pilot is far from being an invincible killing machine now (which is as it should be) and I would argue not so fun and frustrating. Not because you get blown up but because your role has been taken away and on top of that you have very poor means to counter those whose roles are to counter you.

Blasters both small and large are terrible. I'm not even a full time tanker and I know this. AV has made quite a come back infantry wise so tanks are not as ridiculous killing machines as they used to be.

My Min commando can kill just about any tank after a single reload. My adv forge gun can kill a tank after a single reload. There's no more of this tanks repping through damage anymore.

Tanks have plenty of viable counters now a days. There's just been too many nerfs, fixes, and buffs that happened at the same time.

I still go 30+ with a neutron blaster madrugar and kill several gunnlogi and other madrugar in the process. These less skilled tankers just want an instakill OP weapon. Well guess what, the time of being a 1 man death machine is over. Learn 2 gunners. With my madrugar with missiles and 2 particle accelerators we get over 10,000 wp between us and kill around 60 ppl per match.

I feel like this got buried. I do not pretend to be a tanker, but I would like some feedback. <3