No, I want HAVs to have a role as well.

HAVs are currently 'more focused' on Anti-Vehicle Duties due to their Large Turrets. The Smaller Turrets are a bit more varied with AI and AV turrets that can 'enhance' the roles of the guys inside.

To outline an example, I run a Caldari assault with RR, Locus Grenades etc, but no AV capability.. but pair me with a HAV driver who fits a Large Blaster and a Small Rail, suddenly I have the capacity in addition to my Anti-Infantry Capabilities as an Infanrty, the ability to Effectively anti-vehicle as well, and have somewhere I can 'bunker' to repair / heal.

Also, the ability to move faster from objective a to b to c.

This isn't a glorified taxi, it's considered a 'Force Multiplier', same as a Logistics suit with a Repair Tool could be a 'Glorified Mechanic', but are actually force multipliers when paired with a Heavy Armor-Tanked Suit.

I have actually pointed out that 'having gunners' all match is not the aim... but using the HAV as a force multiplier is. Faster transport, protection, and added arsenal on top of the normal role are added benefits. And they also benefit the HAV driver by giving them 'something else.'

Now onto the 2v1 Sicas... this is an issue, but it's not with the idea of gunners in PC matches, it's with the ability to drive a Sica and fit a sica, and utilise a sica at the drop of a hat. And 2 tanks will almost always 'annihilate' a single tank.. except through good skill, that would happen whether you had a gunner or not, Force Multiplier doesn't mean 2x for the same role, it's about role diversity as much as anything else.

The idea is that a Tank, with 2 gunners, can handle multiple roles, while a tank with just the driver, should not be able to.

Those gunners also 'get out' of the HAV to complete Infantry Objectives, such as hacking, placing uplinks etc. before getting back in.

From you complaints, all I have for you is HTFU, get gud scrub. It's a failure on your part and not so much the mechanics.

Lol PC arbitrary 16 vs 16 fights....... I'mma love when you guys are exposed to real New Eden conflict.....

In the past there was a role that REQUIRED gunners to be effective. It was the DropShip pre-ADS and it was horrible. The ultimate goal of any DS pilot was to go 0/0. For many, many months this issue was bitterly complained about from pilots and eventually the ADS was created to at least allow some participation by the pilot himself.

I'd really rather not repeat the mistakes of the past here.

There are many arguments about a "role" that tanks should play. Sadly, unless there is some hidden design team within CCP working on these things we likely won't see anything for Dust 514. For now the role has to be killing infantry because killing infantry is the basis for everything else such as ground AV and counter tanking roles. If a tank cannot kill infantry even with just the driver than there is no reason for all of these other roles as the game stands now.

I have heard many complaints about the large blaster. However, the problem was much more multifaceted than just calling out this one item. The fact is that a large part of the problem was that tanks were mostly invincible from infantry based AV. It took both of these things to be in place to create the recent tank issues we had. If AV had been more effective than Large Blaster complaints would have been much less.

Now, we have a situation were AV has been empowered via bug fixes, buffs, and damage profile corrections. At the same time we have nerfs to Vehicle repair, range, and turret damage and accuracy. In addition there are reports from CPM that acceleration is being looked at. All of these have swung the scales of balance in the opposite direction. Being a pilot is far from being an invincible killing machine now (which is as it should be) and I would argue not so fun and frustrating. Not because you get blown up but because your role has been taken away and on top of that you have very poor means to counter those whose roles are to counter you.

:) Actually, we smile now

It is good to see though that you guys come out in force to protect / help one of your own. Guess you aren't THAT evil. Enjoy space though, things are gonna get rough up there for ya wink wink.