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Pvt Numnutz
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Posted - 2014.06.29 12:58:00 -
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fitting a small rail or two is a great way to add anti infantry and anti air capabilities to your tank. That's what I have always done for my missile tank as trying to kill infantry with my large missile turret is not only a waste of ammo but puts me in a very bad position should an enemy tank show up. Now it seems you have to fit for anti infantry, rather than relying on your primary turret for everything (in the blaster/rail's case) which is what a lot of AV players wanted anyway, it takes multiple people in a tank to be effective against both other tanks and infantry. Though if a proto av can solo a tank then it might have swung too far in AV favor. How easy is it to solo a tank in bravo? (id test but still no ps3  ) |
Pvt Numnutz
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Posted - 2014.06.29 13:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:fThough if a proto av can solo a tank then it might have swung too far in AV favor. How easy is it to solo a tank in bravo? (id test but still no ps3 ) So one player being killed by one player is considered being "swung too far?"  It's about as easy as the pilot allows it to be.
I'm all for needing two av to counter two guys in a vehicle, needing to fit gunners to fight av and not being able to do everything solo in a vehicle. but you snipped out the part where I was talking about that.
your answer to my question is vague. The reason I asked was because if it is a challenge to kill a tank solo then that might be fine but if its too easy for a single player to solo a tank (assuming same tier on tank and av player) then the balance might have swung too far. If a tank doesn't fit for anti infantry and leaves off his guns then a single AV players has a reasonable chance of killing that tank. If the tank decides to fit for anti infantry and brings a gunner or two along then it should give the tank the edge against that single AV player, meaning the AV player should have to bring his own back up to fight this multiple crew tank.
or is it okay for it to take two people in a tank to kill one AV player, and not okay for it to take two AV to kill one tank? |
Pvt Numnutz
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Posted - 2014.06.29 14:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
If an HAV (or any vehicle besides LAVs for that matter) decides to fit for Anti-Infantry, then yes it does give them an edge against the single AVer (20GJ Railguns & A/XT-1s 2-3HK most dropsuits).
As for your last paragraph, that is not the case. 1 HAV Pilot can still kill an AVer with an 80GJ Blaster, they simply need to be in CQC to do so.
That may be true for a blaster tank, however for missile tanks and rails to a lesser extent, you need to have at least one gunner to fight infantry threats. if you want to fit a top turret (best position for a small turret) you have to fit two turrets which decreases your tank. I'm very curious to know the average range that blaster tanks have to engage to get reliable anti infantry coverage (without forum over exaggeration) to judge just how viable it is to engage an infantry player with a tank. If the operator is putting the tank at more risk by moving too close to engage then its not worth engaging with the main turret.
As you have said, CCP has stated the blaster was for AV and infantry suppression. It wouldn't be a stretch to infer that it too would need to fit for anti infantry as its main turret is for suppressing infantry that aren't equipped to fight back. Trying to suppress a swarmer or forger who has a piece of cover is pointless as they will just shoot swarms around the wall or hop in and out of cover to shoot.
So it seems that tanks now have to fit at least one gun and have a gunner to have a counter to infantry, so if a tank has a gunner or two and goes up against a single AV player then the tank should* (dependent on crew performance/AV skill) win. If there are two AV players going up against a multi crew tank then it should be a pretty balanced fight.
My only concern is when I hear about adv AV being able to solo complex fitted tanks with ease. Av should have a reasonable chance to kill a solo tanker, but it shouldn't be easy. |
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