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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:35:00 -
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I wouldn't say that Cal Scout has broken HD, but there is definitely SOMETHING going on.
As OP said, the only reliable method I've found of taking down Cal Scouts is the AR.
All other weapons tend to blue shield A LOT, but only in certain scenarios. Rapid Strafing makes them blue shield far more often than normal suits.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.05 09:37:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote:I just used a scrambler rifle against a Caldari scout, and I saw bullets hitting the scout, but the scout did not take any damage. The scout wasn't even moving. I am irritated. uhhhh......"hits not registering" has been happening for a long time, months before Caldari Scouts even came into existence. Exactly. Someone please just make a video of a caldari scout getting destroyed by a scrambler rifle, because it is literally an insta kill (or at least a kill-before-you-can-react type of kill).
I am pretty sure it's the unfortunate confluence of people's proficiency not functioning + large, quickly-regenerating buffer that doesn't slow you down, rapid strafe and small hitbox as part of being a scout and DUST's increasingly bad lag since 1.8.
I have no problems killing CalScouts whether I'm using a ScR, AR, CR or HMG.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.05 09:41:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:For the record, several Scouts (myself included) are of the opinion that something's up with the CalScout. On a similar note, Arkena Wyrnspire recently documented hitbox peculiarities specific to the GalSentinel. Hit Detection is certainly unreliable, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Devs were to someday discover frame-specific hitbox bugs. Footage courtesy of IgniteableAura
If that's the video Gavrilo Princip posted, it doesn't show anything particularly damning about anything except SGs.
It seemed like the greatest hit detection issues there were actually against Sentinels.
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Grimmiers
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:51:00 -
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Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote:I just used a scrambler rifle against a Caldari scout, and I saw bullets hitting the scout, but the scout did not take any damage. The scout wasn't even moving. I am irritated.
I just want to point out that the bullets coming out of your gun are a lie. The only thing you can trust is a hitmarker. Just try shooting an hmg at a stationary target halfway in the reticle circle. You'll see the bullets filling the circle and even hitting the target with the sound and shieldflares, but there won't be a hitmarker until it's close to the center.
I don't know about netcode and performance issues with using actual bullets, but if you have the first steps of having a target get hit by bullets and not have damage applied to it then the hit detection will feel bad right off the bat. Right now it just feels like someone is rolling a die when you shoot.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.05 13:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I wouldn't say that Cal Scout has broken HD, but there is definitely SOMETHING going on.
As OP said, the only reliable method I've found of taking down Cal Scouts is the AR.
All other weapons tend to blue shield A LOT, but only in certain scenarios. Rapid Strafing makes them blue shield far more often than normal suits.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.07 00:08:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:If that's the video Gavrilo Princip posted, it doesn't show anything particularly damning about anything except SGs. Absolutely correct. I linked to the shotgun video here to dismiss the "there is no problem ever, you guys just can't aim" folks. In my estimation, hit-detection problems exist with both items
No, what I'm saying is their hit detection is in no way worse than any other suit.
At 2:20 a CalScout blue-shields and kills IA. Immediately after a MinLogi blue shields also.
There's a heavy or two that does it also.
I really don't think that video proves anything about CalScouts (and TBH the SG has the same problems as the rest of the game; it's just more obvious with the high-damage low-RoF CQC. Burst HMG seems to behave similarly)
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