DUST Search - Those remotes though

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here.

How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective?

Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs)

Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy

2 Heavies with a Logi sitting inside the point (I'm talking about Bravo inside of 2 in 2 out Rings map). Range isn't a solution due to map situation. PLC? The Logi will rep through it, or the heavies will flat out KILL you at that range. Shotguns won't help, as there is no way to flank.

The ONLY good solutions for that scenario are THE POCKET and RE's. (or tons of nade spam, although that only eliminates the Logi, and you would need 2-3 people for that to work.

For people who don't know what I'm talking about: If you don't know what the Pocket is, you probably don't know what map I was talking about either. I'm not going to explain either.

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XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1619	Posted - 2014.06.28 13:56:00 - [1] - Quote Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. Not tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14499	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:00:00 - [2] - Quote There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1622	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:10:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun. That's mean. Slim kids always making fun of the fat kids... We are people too Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 3429	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:11:00 - [4] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun. That's mean. Slim kids always making fun of the fat kids... We are people too Maybe stop sitting us then? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1622	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:12:00 - [5] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun. That's mean. Slim kids always making fun of the fat kids... We are people too Maybe stop sitting us then? ?? Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14500	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:13:00 - [6] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun. That's mean. Slim kids always making fun of the fat kids... We are people too Most of my SP is in Fatties I just hate Heavies now and rarely ever use mine.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1622	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:13:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There aren't many things I find fun about dust anymore, but tossing remotes at heavies? Yea. That's still fun. That's mean. Slim kids always making fun of the fat kids... We are people too Most of my SP is in Fatties I just hate Heavies now and rarely ever use mine. I saw a guy with proto gall heavy and proto minny heavy// Thats commitment Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5523	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:30:00 - [8] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1623	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:36:00 - [9] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 546	Posted - 2014.06.28 15:01:00 - [10] - Quote And when the area is enclosed...? Then you're reduced to, "Shotguns comfortably within the HMG's optimal." And Remotes. Considering they have a much longer activation time now, as well as some of the top-end suits able to tank a STD RE hit, they're not nearly as bad as before. The activation timer is the kicker.

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14505	Posted - 2014.06.28 15:03:00 - [11] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy Most areas don't give you that range though, at least not without the heavy having lots of cover nearby.
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5527	Posted - 2014.06.28 15:05:00 - [12] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy 2 Heavies with a Logi sitting inside the point (I'm talking about Bravo inside of 2 in 2 out Rings map). Range isn't a solution due to map situation. PLC? The Logi will rep through it, or the heavies will flat out KILL you at that range. Shotguns won't help, as there is no way to flank. The ONLY good solutions for that scenario are THE POCKET and RE's. (or tons of nade spam, although that only eliminates the Logi, and you would need 2-3 people for that to work. For people who don't know what I'm talking about: If you don't know what the Pocket is, you probably don't know what map I was talking about either. I'm not going to explain either. That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1625	Posted - 2014.06.28 15:06:00 - [13] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy 2 Heavies with a Logi sitting inside the point (I'm talking about Bravo inside of 2 in 2 out Rings map). Range isn't a solution due to map situation. PLC? The Logi will rep through it, or the heavies will flat out KILL you at that range. Shotguns won't help, as there is no way to flank. The ONLY good solutions for that scenario are THE POCKET and RE's. (or tons of nade spam, although that only eliminates the Logi, and you would need 2-3 people for that to work. For people who don't know what I'm talking about: If you don't know what the Pocket is, you probably don't know what map I was talking about either. I'm not going to explain either. proto PLC 1 shots all proto heavies and there is no chance at getting revived. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Atiim EnvyUs. 9950	Posted - 2014.06.28 16:40:00 - [14] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. Kind of like Sentinels with HMGs. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Atiim EnvyUs. 9950	Posted - 2014.06.28 16:58:00 - [15] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: proto PLC 1 shots all proto heavies and there is no chance at getting revived. Really? An Allotek Plasma Cannon deals 1155HP of damage, and has the Hybrid - Plasma damage profile. A Sentinel gk.0 (when fully tanked) has 1811HP, and when you factor in the damage profiles, that's actually 1879 eHP. Even with Gallente Commando Dropsuits V and Proficiency V (raising the Allotek Plasma Cannon's damage to 1460.8HP), you still wouldn't OHK a Sentinel gk.0, and he'd have 350HP left, which is just enough to call on his Logis to repair him at 175HP/s while he blasts you with 910 DPS. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Atiim EnvyUs. 9954	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:19:00 - [16] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: For people who don't know what I'm talking about: If you don't know what the Pocket is, you probably don't know what map I was talking about either. I'm not going to explain either. I think I know what your talking about. Is it this socket? Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Tectonic Fusion 1791	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:22:00 - [17] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. How else am I supposed to remove the Heavy Spam on the objective? Please don't say "With more heavies" (This is PC by the way, not Pubs) Plasma Cannons, shotguns, rail rifles AT range, CR at range, SC at range, Laser AT range... Just about anything above 40 meters will kill a heavy Plasma Cannons in enclosed spaces > heavys Just sayin. I just got advanced and it's a beast. But proto heavys survive direct hits...
Tectonic Fusion 1791	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:24:00 - [18] - Quote delete
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5546	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:30:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: For people who don't know what I'm talking about: If you don't know what the Pocket is, you probably don't know what map I was talking about either. I'm not going to explain either. I think I know what your talking about. Is it this socket? That is the correct map The "Pocket" is the area on grid points M8-10 and N8-10 The bridge on this area gives you a clear shot through the passageway where "B" is on this map. A person with a combat rifle can shred people on the objective at that range, and there is ample cover to do work. However, due to this, it is a HEAVILY contested spot in PC. It switches hands so often it's no even funny (At least with most teams I play) Whoever controls the pocket can make Bravo a living hell. It also lets you control the hallway on that side as well (Grid points K7-K10) That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5546	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:32:00 - [20] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: an allotek does over 1500 damage since the buff... I thought that was only to vehicles? Protofits has it's damage listed as 1115 base. That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4057	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:36:00 - [21] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: I saw a guy with proto gall heavy and proto minny heavy// Thats smart FTFY Wasn't me by chance, was it? PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1633	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:37:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: proto PLC 1 shots all proto heavies and there is no chance at getting revived. Really? An Allotek Plasma Cannon deals 1155HP of damage, and has the Hybrid - Plasma damage profile. A Sentinel gk.0 (when fully tanked) has 1811HP, and when you factor in the damage profiles, that's actually 1879 eHP. Even with Gallente Commando Dropsuits V and Proficiency V (which makes the Allotek Plasma Cannon's damage to 1460.8HP), you still wouldn't OHK a Sentinel gk.0, and he'd have 350HP left, which is just enough to call on his Logis to rep him at 175HP/s while he blasts you with 910 DPS. Allotek got buffed to 1500 base damage Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 839	Posted - 2014.06.28 17:42:00 - [23] - Quote Woah woah woah woah woah ... Did this thread really become heavies wanting REs to be nerfed and saying that plasma cannons are perfectly fine to kill heavies? * breaks down laughing * 99% of people who ever try the plasma cannon go VERY negative and are lucky to get even two kills. I can go positive with it and use it to troll and I'll tell you this, the plasma cannon is still by far the greatest laughing stock of a weapon in Dust 514's entire existence.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1633	Posted - 2014.06.28 18:16:00 - [24] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Woah woah woah woah woah ... Did this thread really become heavies wanting REs to be nerfed and saying that plasma cannons are perfectly fine to kill heavies? * breaks down laughing * 99% of people who ever try the plasma cannon go VERY negative and are lucky to get even two kills. I can go positive with it and use it to troll and I'll tell you this, the plasma cannon is still by far the greatest laughing stock of a weapon in Dust 514's entire existence. Not when I one shot proto heavies, two shot pythons and three shot sicas. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 560	Posted - 2014.06.28 19:21:00 - [25] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Woah woah woah woah woah ... Did this thread really become heavies wanting REs to be nerfed and saying that plasma cannons are perfectly fine to kill heavies? * breaks down laughing * 99% of people who ever try the plasma cannon go VERY negative and are lucky to get even two kills. I can go positive with it and use it to troll and I'll tell you this, the plasma cannon is still by far the greatest laughing stock of a weapon in Dust 514's entire existence. Not when I one shot proto heavies, two shot pythons and three shot sicas. that's cuz you're you... He was talking about 97% of the Dust population Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 551	Posted - 2014.06.28 20:14:00 - [26] - Quote 97%? That's pretty generous to say that 3% can hit anything with a PLC!
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1092	Posted - 2014.06.28 20:59:00 - [27] - Quote Disappointingly, it's true. The single aspect of remotes which really needed change - the activation delay - did not get increased any significant amount. (tiered damage was okay though) If the delay would be something at least five+ seconds that would seriously limit the use as a grenade. If Rattati really sees that there should be remotes that have short delay, then make it a RE variant dealing way less damage. (hint: RE variants would be cool: hard-to-scan / 'directed blast' for AV work / high-HP ones...) :-S
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 674	Posted - 2014.06.28 21:03:00 - [28] - Quote If you are sitting in a corner camping, you deserve to be killed by remotes, as its the only counter to you. If you are moving, you can't be killed by remotes anyways, so i don't see the problem here. Also, why are you isolating remote explosives as a scouts weapon? Most of the time, I use them on my assault suits, and not my scout (as a minja has to choose between cloak and remotes, and i choose cloak most of the time), so why is this a problem with just scouts? Are you trying to say that suits with EQ slots are OP because they can kill heavies? "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2938	Posted - 2014.06.28 21:22:00 - [29] - Quote Haven't they seriously increased the arming time? How are you still dying? Seriously? My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 91	Posted - 2014.06.28 21:42:00 - [30] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Still flying frisbees of death.... scouts use it all the time. No tactics to them. Jump in, chug, run away, get kills. Still here. Ghaz The only difference now is a heavy with at least one shield extender will survive basic possibly even advanced but he will be down to almost nothing. It's a little more fair now because us full proto heavies have a chance to sink a round of HMG into the scout filth



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