if you choose not to vote keep in mind that there will be a CPM 1, whether you vote or not. Some people are voting, so there are going to be seven people that get some votes. If you choose not to vote then you are letting other people choose who those seven people will be.

I support the right we all have to boycott the CPM election. No-one should support an institution they feel to be a poor one. But if you do not vote just remember that if the group is made of people you really disagree with, then you missed your chance to contribute to the profile of the CPM.

Perhaps though, we can get the CPM1 dissolved if the turn out is so poor that It could be argued that the group is so badly non-representative that it does not serve it's function as a player representative group. Perhaps we should force CCP to tell us what percentage of the players voted, and if its say, only 10% (or 12% - 25% whatever) we can push to have it nullified.

Short video on what the CPM is
How does the voting work?
Announcement Video

Judge,
Should you be successful in your campaign, Is there any chance you could also try and push for more complete stats/attributes in game too? This would mean some client changes though, so i realise it may not be something CCP would be interested in doing..

I just really want to be able to see a range attribute in the stats for the weapon ingame, also.. on your summarized stats on a fitted suit.. i don't see any reason why they couldn't have calculated the estimated dps of each weapon slot taking into account the weapon and any damage modifiers you have on the fit, and then displayed this figure assuming 100% efficiency as a dps stat too.

Naturally we can be all keyboard warriors and work it out.. but for a game which is meant to be 'console friendly' .. there's a lot of hidden figures you have to search the net to find which could very easily have been given in the game with the other stats...

Would certainly appreciate someone putting a little pressure on them for this. Plus it would help newer players understand how effective their fits have the potential of being.. Not everyone who picks up and plays the game is like us in terms of doing research.. many players just want to pick up and play.

It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is.

We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download.

If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out.

I see you edited your post about nullifying the CPM in the general section, but you still haven't answered my question

It's called advanced politics, every world leader does it.

Judge, good luck running for election, as well to you all. My question: Would you reach out to players, or would they reach out to you? For example if I found out 30 people thought the Militia Rail was OP, could I shoot you a mail with 30 signatures? What will have to be done in order to reach you?

I understand if this is a complex question, and am willing to break it down.

Again, good luck all 07

Where do we vote?


A.O.D. Baby, yeah!

So you have pretty much resorted to ignoring me it seems judge.

Faced with a hard question that you brought on yourself, instead of clearing the air, you try to bottle up and hope no one will notice?

I really thought you were better than this if i'm honest judge, you had the potential to be one of the strongest candidates but you wasted it, barely answering questions and reacting pretty badly to any criticism that appeared

You stick your head in the sand when the going gets tough, If you do get elected i fear that your head won't ever come out of the sand.

While Xel was just responding to someone's (quite silly) claims that candidates are trying to direct attention elsewhere, I can see your frustration with him putting a physical link to his thread



Judge, In another thread you stated this:



As a CPM candidate, why would you even consider a plan about dissolving the CPM? 10% voter turnout is pretty huge turnout (easily more of a turnout that eve online has) considering many players do not even go on the forums.

As I have said in previous posts, including ones that were removed for some reason; At the start of your candidacy I was overjoyed that you were running, but your lack of communication (and also not willing to be social, but thats not really the main issue) conveyed in your stalling of questions until you got a Q+A thread, followed by dodging many questions at the start of your Q+A thread and then only answering with links to past videos and some threads really made me question if i really should be voting for you or not.

Now you are advocating disbanding the CPM not even a week before the voting process start, I don't even know what to say to this.

If there is one question that i personally feel that you should answer, is why did you post that?

No-one should support an institution they feel to be a poor one.

if you choose not to vote keep in mind that there will be a CPM 1, whether you vote or not. Some people are voting, so there are going to be seven people that get some votes. If you choose not to vote then you are letting other people choose who those seven people will be.

I support the right we all have to boycott the CPM election. No-one should support an institution they feel to be a poor one. But if you do not vote just remember that if the group is made of people you really disagree with, then you missed your chance to contribute to the profile of the CPM.

Perhaps though, we can get the CPM1 dissolved if the turn out is so poor that It could be argued that the group is so badly non-representative that it does not serve it's function as a player representative group. Perhaps we should force CCP to tell us what percentage of the players voted, and if its say, only 10% (or 12% - 25% whatever) we can push to have it nullified.

EDIT : For clarity I am saying here is take part and if you think they fail after they are elected then ask for their removal, what ever way you feel is justified and fair. But do take part, the CPM can do good work for you.

Short video on what the CPM is
How does the voting work?
Announcement Video

You said you had one question Tech Da Ra. Why did I post that? I did not. I posted more than the fragment you quoted. On it's own that fragment is not representative of my opinion.

If the whole thread is read and the rest of that post, it is evident I am warning people not to avoid voting. That very post has a video link where i talk about how important the CPM is and why they should vote. I then say



I then explain one way they can fight an institution they feel does not represent them. Is it wrong to advocate that people vote? warn them of the consequences of not voting? Create a video that explains the importance of voting and the benefits of the CPM? and also create a video to clarify the complex vote counting system but then remind them that any electorate can fight to de-seat its representatives if it chooses too?

Here is the whole post. not the out of context fragment :



So I ask you this. Should an electorate be able to seek to dissolve a body it has no faith in? If you support a CPM that, we the players, cannot ask CCP to reconsider at anytime in their term then I am greatly concerned for the future of the players rights should such a CPM get elected.

As a small side issue I would point out that your question was asked yesterday, on the 6th in a different time zone on the Sunday of the July 4ths extensive holiday period, when I, and many others were traveling. I could only respond periodically due to the nature of the location I was in (the woods) and the low tech devices I had access too. I had to reply in short bursts as frequently as I could. As you will see I was in the process of replying to all the comments from the weekend, starting with the less complex questions that were easier to format.

While we all try to respond in a timely manner, for all things, there will always be exceptional circumstances that challenge us. The July 4th weekend is one of those times, as is Christmas or the new year or Ramadan. Sometimes there are short periods of time, where life inserts a small pause.

only 10% (or 12% - 25% whatever)

I used 10% as just an example, notice I also said in brackets, 12% or 25% whatever.



I am suggesting a percentage as a metric here. not setting that percentage. I'm don't set 10% as the minimum or 25% as the maximum. It is pretty clear with my use of "perhaps" as well that I am just putting out a concept, not dictating a rule.

As I explained to Tech, my point is not the metric but the concept. An electorate should retain the right to protest those elected to represent them. If you disagree Tech or Kevall then I would be interested to hear why.

An electorate should retain the right to protest those elected to represent them.

Of course they have the right to protest. Free society and all that. But that protest only has any form of credence or coherent argument if they themselves were engaged in the process to begin with.

Do they have the right to dissolve said result when A) they didn't vote or stand to ensure their view was counted or B) they don't like the result then frankly, no they don't.

They were given the chance to express their view and either didn't or couldn't be bothered. Should the views of those who cared enough to have their say be stifled or dismissed as irrelevant by the apathy of others? No.

Those who feel that the CPM is not worth the effort, I sorry to say this, ignoring it doesn't mean it's going to go away. It's here and it's happening. Either engage yourself in the process or choose to ignore it.

But taking the latter option renders any complaint about the result you have as void and not the result itself.

Zatara just lost my votes with the above snarky post.

Seems like the CPM Clubhouse line struck a little close to home.

Zatara demonstrates the ability to follow the pack and not lead, I am not going to vote for a follower when we need leaders.

The problem with all of that is that while Destiny is a fun game, I'm far from wowed or amazed by it. There isn't anything all that new or amazing in Destiny, and I'm glad I never boarded the hype train because I would have been severely disappointed if I had. Don't get me wrong its a fun game, I'll play it, but there isn't much that sets it apart from anything else.

See Pyrex the thing is, will Dust be canceled during CPM1's watch? Who knows. But the fact of the matter is that you can either join the doom and gloom train, or you can try to make a better experience for the players. I'm not the type to sit around and wait for the end to come. People have invested a lot of time and money into this game, they need to have people fight to give them what they deserve.

I don't think anyone running for CPM will say they're not interested in pushing to have Dust moved into Legion, that will always be a primary concern. However until that can happen, we need to focus on making Dust as enjoyable as possible for the players. I don't know about you, but I feel that's a proper goal to be fighting for.