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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.27 19:51:00 -
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Make LP payout be 10WP=1LP at level 0 standings. Standings levels provide a multiplier to the ratio.
A player who gets over 1000 WP should not be rewarded the same as someone who gets only a couple hundred WP. This would also give an incentive for players to gain WP instead of doing nothing (because someone who AFK's in the MCC shouldn't get the same payout as someone who spends half a million ISK and tries to do something helpful for the team).
Because currently AFK'ing in the MCC seems a lot more promising than actually doing stuff for Caldari FW. And I think I'll begin AFK'ing from now on whenever I want to earn some Caldari LP. Better use of my time and saves me the frustration and rage from being redlined and stomped over and over (also saves me tons of ISK).
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2761
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:59:00 -
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This is a pretty good idea. Personally, I'd rather see more and more active SP/LP/ISK rewards, as passive rewards in matches is extremely easy to game. I feel the rewards for FacWar are far too low in general though, so perhaps even adding a WP-based LP reward on TOP of whatever is rewarded now would be an appealing prospect.
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Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
238
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Posted - 2014.06.27 21:47:00 -
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I agree with both. Performing better in matches needs to add on top of the current (mediocre) payment structure. Currently, you get more value out of a pub match (getting isk, and using it to buy proto weapons/suits), than a FW match at level 10 using thw LP to buy proto weapons/suits. (And that is assuming you win the FW match. If you lose, Amarrian God Help you, you're bleeding isk).
That being said, it sounds like at least a simple tweak can be done to the system in hotfix Charlie. A payout uptick partially tied to WP would be optimal, but if that can't be easily accomplished, at least a 15-25% uptick in the LP received from each match would help. An uptick would also probably increase FW booster sales (read: Money to CCP). |
MINA Longstrike
919
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Posted - 2014.06.27 22:00:00 -
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What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3578
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Posted - 2014.06.27 23:07:00 -
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Overall, the payout for the winners is OK, in the context of an overhaul some tweaks could be made, with a bonus for WP, but IMO that's not where the problem lie, because winning already gives you the added bonus of increasing your standings.
No, the real issue is the losing side, as all the Caldari and Amarr avatars in this thread surely attest. Something I proposed a few months ago is that if you lose, but still end up in the top 3 of the leaderboard, or maybe meet some minimum WP threshold like 1000, you should still be given some standings points. Not 75 like the winners, but maybe 1 standings point for every 50-100 WP.
That way there is at least some incentive for trying even if the battle appears lost. It would also go a very very long way towards improving the morale of the skilled but outnumbered mercenaries playing for Amarr/Caldari. It's also a simple fix that makes a big impact, like Rattati is always looking for.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
380
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Posted - 2014.06.28 03:41:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
To add to this it would mean more people would be doing lp gaining things, like using uplinks or rep tools
So I would on average be getting a 100-350% increase on payout? sweet, I could actually afford to buy full federation fits :D |
Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
239
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Posted - 2014.06.28 20:26:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
To add to this it would mean more people would be doing lp gaining things, like using uplinks or rep tools
1% for every 10 WPs seems a but much, but perhaps 1% for every 25 WP. |
emm kay
Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives
119
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Posted - 2014.06.28 20:50:00 -
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Dustbunny Durrr wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
To add to this it would mean more people would be doing lp gaining things, like using uplinks or rep tools 1% for every 10 WPs seems a but much, but perhaps 1% for every 25 WP.
I like the percentage idea, but I think that the rate should be 1% for every 10 :)
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MINA Longstrike
928
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Posted - 2014.06.28 21:01:00 -
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Dustbunny Durrr wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
To add to this it would mean more people would be doing lp gaining things, like using uplinks or rep tools 1% for every 10 WPs seems a but much, but perhaps 1% for every 25 WP. The exact value isn't super important as it can be tweaked. The important bit is rewarding the people who do everything.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
382
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Posted - 2014.06.28 21:02:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Dustbunny Durrr wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:What about, if every 10wp gained was a 1% increase to lp payout?
To add to this it would mean more people would be doing lp gaining things, like using uplinks or rep tools 1% for every 10 WPs seems a but much, but perhaps 1% for every 25 WP. I like the percentage idea, but I think that the rate should be 1% for every 10 :)
Either 10 or 20 imo, 25 is a bit high.
EDIT: How about you go in the middle and do 15? |
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