DUST Search - [CCP rattati and/or Logibro] Idea for remedying the ADS rendering is...

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Well it is an interesting idea and I'm sure that many solo ads pilots would enjoy discussing it further.

For me it wouldn't help typical operations, unless I was preforming a strafing run in which case it would help lining up the run. I usually only do this against turrets and redline tanks.

I fly with gunners and for some reason the gunners rendering is far superior to that of the pilots (possibly because for the pilot its rendering the whole dropship?) So they are the ones hitting the ground targets as they are focused on their job which frees up the pilot (me) to focus on flying the ship and keeping situational awareness. I fly in third person because it allows me to see where my gunners are pointed and give them proper angles on targets. I usually only switch to first person when preforming a strafe run, notifying my gunners for maximum effect and knowing where they are aiming when in first person, and engaging dropships, because my pilot gun is more effective than my gunnersin most cases.

So while improving first person rendering would help for strafe runs it wouldn't remedy the issue of pilots being blind. It would be of more use to me to be able to see the targets my gunners are engaging and the av threats engaging me that my gunners spot rather than making educated guesses on their location. This would cut down on the annoying chatter that's involved with my engagements,
Gunner: there is a group left side low, can you get me an angle?
Pilot: Rodger what's their location?
Gunner: south of by the corner across the bridge from the cru heading towards the bridge that leads to A
Pilot: copy, moving.....is that a good angle?
Gunner: almost give me a bit more elevation
Pilot: that better?
Gunner: got one but the rest have moved into the acid field by A, gotta reposition
Pilot: oh okay now I see them hold on I have to swing her around

If I could actually see what my gunners see it would go more like,
Gunner: there is a group left side low, can you get me an angle?
Pilot: Rodger, eyes on stand by for the shot

+1 for the idea tho, and for understanding one of the flaws many ads pilots have struggled with over the builds

Then what about shared DS vision? If you recall, back in Chromosome you could see any enemy your squadmates had LoS on. If dropships had some form of shared vision within the ship, the pilots would at least be able to see the chevrons of people their gunners can see. This would both vastly improve the pilot's ability to keep track of potential threats and give ADS pilots a real incentive to fit side guns to their crafts and have dedicated gunners.

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Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1556	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote Had a discussion with Baal in his thread about ADS first person view which lead to an interesting idea being put toward by Baal, Baal Omniscient wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Well it is an interesting idea and I'm sure that many solo ads pilots would enjoy discussing it further. For me it wouldn't help typical operations, unless I was preforming a strafing run in which case it would help lining up the run. I usually only do this against turrets and redline tanks. I fly with gunners and for some reason the gunners rendering is far superior to that of the pilots (possibly because for the pilot its rendering the whole dropship?) So they are the ones hitting the ground targets as they are focused on their job which frees up the pilot (me) to focus on flying the ship and keeping situational awareness. I fly in third person because it allows me to see where my gunners are pointed and give them proper angles on targets. I usually only switch to first person when preforming a strafe run, notifying my gunners for maximum effect and knowing where they are aiming when in first person, and engaging dropships, because my pilot gun is more effective than my gunnersin most cases. So while improving first person rendering would help for strafe runs it wouldn't remedy the issue of pilots being blind. It would be of more use to me to be able to see the targets my gunners are engaging and the av threats engaging me that my gunners spot rather than making educated guesses on their location. This would cut down on the annoying chatter that's involved with my engagements, Gunner: there is a group left side low, can you get me an angle? Pilot: Rodger what's their location? Gunner: south of by the corner across the bridge from the cru heading towards the bridge that leads to A Pilot: copy, moving.....is that a good angle? Gunner: almost give me a bit more elevation Pilot: that better? Gunner: got one but the rest have moved into the acid field by A, gotta reposition Pilot: oh okay now I see them hold on I have to swing her around If I could actually see what my gunners see it would go more like, Gunner: there is a group left side low, can you get me an angle? Pilot: Rodger, eyes on stand by for the shot +1 for the idea tho, and for understanding one of the flaws many ads pilots have struggled with over the builds Then what about shared DS vision? If you recall, back in Chromosome you could see any enemy your squadmates had LoS on. If dropships had some form of shared vision within the ship, the pilots would at least be able to see the chevrons of people their gunners can see. This would both vastly improve the pilot's ability to keep track of potential threats and give ADS pilots a real incentive to fit side guns to their crafts and have dedicated gunners. So my question is, would it be possible in a hotfix to allow shared dropship vision with the pilots crew? This would not only imply teamwork, but would seriously assist the issue of pilots being generally blind. Thanks
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 551	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote +1. "We're in the spirit world now Billy...is that a chicken?" - Young Guns.
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1821	Posted - 2014.06.25 15:36:00 - [3] - Quote +1 PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 520	Posted - 2014.06.25 16:10:00 - [4] - Quote +1
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1839	Posted - 2014.06.26 05:37:00 - [5] - Quote Bump =3 PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 530	Posted - 2014.06.26 14:14:00 - [6] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Bump =3 Argh! My expensive dropship!
Jack Galen Vanguardian Remnant 3	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:10:00 - [7] - Quote +100
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1569	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:46:00 - [8] - Quote Rattati where have you gone?
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1573	Posted - 2014.06.28 00:52:00 - [9] - Quote Bump
Riptalis Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 28	Posted - 2014.07.04 11:16:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Logistics ak.0 ADS Pilot PSN: Riptalis



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