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OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.06.25 05:02:00 - [1] - Quote I've seen this one guy in a pub absolutely slaughter with a Duvolle on his scout. I'd probably use the Breach though. ****, it's still taking me a while to actually TRY the breach again after it's been UP for so long... So I can pretty much tell you AR on a medium isn't bad anymore. But what about instead of a CR on a scout? That DPS counts for a lot when you have no HP.
Lynn Beck NoGameNoLife 1917	Posted - 2014.06.25 05:37:00 - [2] - Quote I run a Glu-5 on my knifing scout. I also ran a Duvolle on my 'superScrubSaiyan Gk.0, fitted gasp 396 armor! General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14832	Posted - 2014.06.25 06:03:00 - [3] - Quote I generally prefer a CR but an AR is workable on a scout now. It's no longer the stupid option. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.
Tectonic Fusion 1773	Posted - 2014.06.25 07:00:00 - [4] - Quote I use the Tac AR now due to its high alpha to keep people from kill stealing any I like the feel. Cal scout btw.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 695	Posted - 2014.06.25 08:06:00 - [5] - Quote Was it me? Recently I've stopped giving a damn about personal image and started embracing proto fits, and a Duvolle fitted scout has pretty much become my go to suit. 20 kill games are minimum for my games now, anything less is a bad game. Not that I brick tank though, I still have some pride; 327 armor doesn't hold up well against a ranged RR or a heavy within 45m. #SaveTheBreach
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.06.25 08:10:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I generally prefer a CR but an AR is workable on a scout now. It's no longer the stupid option. when you said breach AR didn't do more DPS than the CR i was confused because that data sheet Rattati gave out said it was going to. guess it didn't work out that way? i believe i remember it was buffing the AR to about 450 DPS whereas the CR is like 530 or something, and the Breach AR was projected to be a little more than that while the Tac was to be over 700
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4873	Posted - 2014.06.25 09:19:00 - [7] - Quote Even before the buff, the AR was good on a scout. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Izlare Lenix BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 720	Posted - 2014.06.25 09:23:00 - [8] - Quote Nothing can make me put down my Scrambler Rifle. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA 26	Posted - 2014.06.25 10:39:00 - [9] - Quote I run a caldari scout with ARs. basic AR for the basic scout, gek-38 for the advance and duvolle for the proto although due to cost I rarely use the proto. It works really well. The thing is that the AR chews through shields but it doesn't do so well against armor. This means that you still need to sneak up on them. It does well again everybody except the heavys. For the heavys you have to kill them a bit at a time. Every time you hit them you have to take all of their shields which is easy with the AR and some of the armor. As soon as he is in position to fire back, you run away. You then repeat again taking out a bit more armor so on and so forth until he is dead. The thing is that I already had the AR at max but I have no skill points on the Combat rifle. With the new changes, is the combat rifle still good? I don't want to spent points on it to find out I don't like it. Anybody with experience using both?
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. Proficiency V. 1541	Posted - 2014.06.25 10:42:00 - [10] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I use the Tac AR now due to its high alpha to keep people from kill stealing any I like the feel. Cal scout btw. My scr is better My scr has more dps Is cheaper Costs less cpu More range Better At std level. Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony

Cavani1EE7 The Rainbow Effect 109	Posted - 2014.06.25 11:19:00 - [11] - Quote I use it on my gal and cal scouts since Alpha hotfix, even in PC. 1337
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1801	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:37:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I generally prefer a CR but an AR is workable on a scout now. It's no longer the stupid option. Nope, now that honor is reserved solely for the idiots trying to no-scope CQC with a sniper rifle. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1989	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:39:00 - [13] - Quote A KinCat or two goes well with the AR. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1801	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:42:00 - [14] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: I run a caldari scout with ARs. basic AR for the basic scout, gek-38 for the advance and duvolle for the proto although due to cost I rarely use the proto. It works really well. The thing is that the AR chews through shields but it doesn't do so well against armor. This means that you still need to sneak up on them. It does well again everybody except the heavys. For the heavys you have to kill them a bit at a time. Every time you hit them you have to take all of their shields which is easy with the AR and some of the armor. As soon as he is in position to fire back, you run away. You then repeat again taking out a bit more armor so on and so forth until he is dead. The thing is that I already had the AR at max but I have no skill points on the Combat rifle. With the new changes, is the combat rifle still good? I don't want to spent points on it to find out I don't like it. Anybody with experience using both? AR+SMG=dead heavies. Since my ACR has 85 rounds (Winmatar Assault), I can still de-shield pretty much every suit with it in short order, then ASMG their armor off when my ACR clip is empty. Very rarely do I have to reload mid-fight. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 37	Posted - 2014.06.25 18:04:00 - [15] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I use the Tac AR now due to its high alpha to keep people from kill stealing any I like the feel. Cal scout btw. My scr is better My scr has more dps Is cheaper Costs less cpu More range Better At std level. well no **** jeremy yet again you've made another captain obvious statement. to quote Rattati "we want variants to be weaker versions of the gun that outperforms them, but still be effective" ANYWAY... Seriously does anyone have the new DPS numbers on AR now? I want to trust protofits.com but I'm skeptical they even update it anymore.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3345	Posted - 2014.06.25 19:44:00 - [16] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Was it me? Recently I've stopped giving a damn about personal image and started embracing proto fits, and a Duvolle fitted scout has pretty much become my go to suit. 25 kill games are minimum for my games now, anything less is a bad game. Not that I brick tank though, I still have some pride; 327 armor doesn't hold up well against a ranged RR or a heavy within 45m. 300 armor is brick tanking now? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Tectonic Fusion 1775	Posted - 2014.06.25 20:23:00 - [17] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I use the Tac AR now due to its high alpha to keep people from kill stealing any I like the feel. Cal scout btw. My scr is better My scr has more dps Is cheaper Costs less cpu More range Better At std level. The Scrambler Rifle overheats in high stakes situations. I am an engage and quickly disengage kind of person, so the scrambler rifle would be great, however, fight heavys very often, so the scrambler rifle isn't the best choice.
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.06.25 20:25:00 - [18] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Was it me? Recently I've stopped giving a damn about personal image and started embracing proto fits, and a Duvolle fitted scout has pretty much become my go to suit. 25 kill games are minimum for my games now, anything less is a bad game. Not that I brick tank though, I still have some pride; 327 armor doesn't hold up well against a ranged RR or a heavy within 45m. 300 armor is brick tanking now? They can add shields to that. And he's obviously talking about Ferroscales because the number would be much higher with Plates on a Gallente.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 982	Posted - 2014.06.25 20:59:00 - [19] - Quote I've been running a Toxin on my Dragonfly scout well before the AR got buffed. It, combined with some R-9 uplinks, is my go-to suit during a stomp. It served me well before the AR&scout buffs. I am a minotaur.
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 48	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:02:00 - [20] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I've been running a Toxin on my Dragonfly scout well before the AR got buffed. It, combined with some R-9 uplinks, is my go-to suit during a stomp. It served me well before the AR&scout buffs. Yeah but now my AR tears up heavies like they're nothing. Don't even need the SMG combo especially on a Logi.

Tectonic Fusion 1777	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:02:00 - [21] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I've been running a Toxin on my Dragonfly scout well before the AR got buffed. It, combined with some R-9 uplinks, is my go-to suit during a stomp. It served me well before the AR&scout buffs. I use 2 enhanced kin cats and a complex shield with that
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 695	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:36:00 - [22] - Quote OP FOTM wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Was it me? Recently I've stopped giving a damn about personal image and started embracing proto fits, and a Duvolle fitted scout has pretty much become my go to suit. 25 kill games are minimum for my games now, anything less is a bad game. Not that I brick tank though, I still have some pride; 327 armor doesn't hold up well against a ranged RR or a heavy within 45m. 300 armor is brick tanking now? They can add shields to that. And he's obviously talking about Ferroscales because the number would be much higher with Plates on a Gallente. @Soul, I was saying that I -don't- brick tank my scout. 2 Ferroscale plates like FOTM said. But I don't run shield extenders in the highs, I run precision mods to catch as many scouts as I can. I personally wouldn't consider a total hp pool of 415 in a game where most weapons can deal out at least 400 damage per second to be anything too hard to contend with. #SaveTheBreach
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5482	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:38:00 - [23] - Quote I use the ACR on my Min Scout because it's an SMG with more range at 3/4 the PG cost. That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 60	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:39:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I generally prefer a CR but an AR is workable on a scout now. It's no longer the stupid option. Some run AR/SMG combo. AR to remove a shield, and then switch to SMG to chew through armor.


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