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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:53:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:calvin b wrote:Beastlina wrote:They can 2 shot a sentinel suit, FINE. But they need to die with 2 bullets MAX. These guys are soaking up so much damage and getting off like 5 shotgun shells while taking damage and bouncing around. They will always see you and since they can tell which way your facing it's easy to get the first shotgun round off on your backside. They can see me, i can't see them unless they are and idiot and walk up to me from the front, i can't see them on radar, they are incredibly fast and have commando lvl armor (yes i'm talking about gallente scouts), they have the safest hacking, and they can use the RE's to even take down a well fitted tank or defend points. Please someone explain to me why scouts get all this and have no drawbacks what so ever. Let's be honest, have you ever seen a full proto scout do badly even on the losing team? I for one suck at being a scout. I admit at the moment the scout is at a good spot. The true counter to this is the assault class. Sadly it does not exist at the moment. I am a heavy I have to deal with this BS all the time. I call BS not because of the scout suit but the hit detection. There is something wrong with the scouts hit detection especially the Cal scout. Do not blame the suit or the player, blame the horrible hit detection. For example I less than 10M from a scout and my HMG failed to register most hits even thought the reticule was dead center of the scout the whole fight. I lost, I was upset but its dust mechanics and what can you really do. Don't hate the player or suit blame the hit detection and LAG and just breath. better not let the scouts see this thread they might start b*tching about how hard it is being an invisible suit that can see anything =.= Try being a completely visible suit that shows up on heavy and assault tacnet because of shared scanning with 1/5 the ehp.
And if you think being cloaked is being invisible you need your eyes checked.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:54:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:my major issue with scouts is how much dmg they can soak up.. imo a proto scout should have a max of 400 ehp.
I think right now they can get 600 easy...way too much
This is a tanking problem, not a scout problem. The nerf to dampening was supposed to "fix" the tanking, when in fact it just encouraged more tanking by making dampening significantly less viable.
DPLAK
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.06.25 00:40:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:calvin b wrote:Beastlina wrote:They can 2 shot a sentinel suit, FINE. But they need to die with 2 bullets MAX. These guys are soaking up so much damage and getting off like 5 shotgun shells while taking damage and bouncing around. They will always see you and since they can tell which way your facing it's easy to get the first shotgun round off on your backside. They can see me, i can't see them unless they are and idiot and walk up to me from the front, i can't see them on radar, they are incredibly fast and have commando lvl armor (yes i'm talking about gallente scouts), they have the safest hacking, and they can use the RE's to even take down a well fitted tank or defend points. Please someone explain to me why scouts get all this and have no drawbacks what so ever. Let's be honest, have you ever seen a full proto scout do badly even on the losing team? I for one suck at being a scout. I admit at the moment the scout is at a good spot. The true counter to this is the assault class. Sadly it does not exist at the moment. I am a heavy I have to deal with this BS all the time. I call BS not because of the scout suit but the hit detection. There is something wrong with the scouts hit detection especially the Cal scout. Do not blame the suit or the player, blame the horrible hit detection. For example I less than 10M from a scout and my HMG failed to register most hits even thought the reticule was dead center of the scout the whole fight. I lost, I was upset but its dust mechanics and what can you really do. Don't hate the player or suit blame the hit detection and LAG and just breath. better not let the scouts see this thread they might start b*tching about how hard it is being an invisible suit that can see anything =.= Try being a completely visible suit that shows up on heavy and assault tacnet because of shared scanning with 1/5 the ehp. And if you think being cloaked is being invisible you need your eyes checked. this is the kind of thing scrub scouts say... before cloaking existed, and when just about everything passively showed up on scans, good scouts were still wrecking face. Great scouts were wrecking face, the rest of us were getting by. And prior to 1.8, there were just minjas and Gal scouts. Even then, most scouts knew that Gallente were the most viable, with maybe just 20 percent going minmatar.
Gal scouts don't have the precision enhancement bonuses, and I was able to beat most scanners with a single complex damp. The only thing that could occasionally beat my dampening was a duvolle focused which was rarely used in pubs.
Now, cals easily pick me up, and have spare room for other mods, plus broadcast my position to his fat squadmates.
You can call me a scrub all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that there are legit issues with scouts, some that are UP, some that are OP. Unfortunately your lack of diplomatic skills are not at all helpful.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.06.25 01:30:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Thurak1 wrote:Here i thought it was common knowledge that the cal scout had hit detection issues that make it a real monster on the BF. It is common knowledge this is a rumor players with bad aim keep spreading. Provide proof of this hit detection glitch. Whether I'm using a cal scout, amarr commando or hmg heavy I kill cal scouts just as easily as any other scout. See IgniteableAura's video that is posted in the bugs section here.
He is suggesting that it is a shotgun problem, but it might also scout hit detection problem. So you have some video evidence, but evidence of what is still up in the air.
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