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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:31:00 -
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Movement speed?
ADS can lolAB away while Tanks cannot. If anything its Fuel Injectors which are imbalance, not arbitrary resistance against AV for ADS.
Its a freaking dropship, are you seriously trying to argue that the TTK should be similar to a HEAVY Assault Vehicle?
That's like trying to argue that brick tanked heavy suits should have the same TTK from an AR as an EWAR scout. Different roles on the field dictate different TTKs. |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:36:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:ADS can lolAB away . No it cannot. If you think it can, you are not experianced enough in dropships.
Dropships can't use afterburners? That's new. Was that changed in HF Bravo?
And the rest of my post? |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.27 16:15:00 -
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I don't understand judge, why give dropships arbitrary resistance? If their ehp is too low, simply increase their hp pool.
The only reason I can think of is so that repairs are more effective and hardeners are less effective. I'll admit I don't fly dropships myself but I rarely see anyone stating that dropships take too long to recover their hp, and unlike HAVs its usually fairly simple to make your way to a supply depot to repair your armor, especially since you'll be going back for ammo constantly anyways.
I see absolutely no reason to increase dropship resistance to AV other than to make things inconsistent and confusing for non theorycrafters. |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:43:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:
I see absolutely no reason to increase dropship resistance to AV other than to make things inconsistent and confusing for non theorycrafters.
Or decrease.... A tiny tweak in resistance can really help the fine tuning, It helps add to the variables other than say just missile base damage, or missile count.
I understand your point about using resistances as a tool for fine tuning ehp... but resistance has some serious consequences that need to be taken into account before being changed.
By changing base resistance you mess with the efficacy of almost every module that exists. HP modules become worth more automatically, repair modules the same. Resistance modules become worth less as base resistance acts in a similar manner as natural diminishing returns on hardeners.
I would highly suggest the devs to be very careful when tuning based on resistances vs. base hp. Is it a tool? Possibly, but it may be more trouble than its worth to deal with.
If anything I would support adding in skills to increase base resistance. HAV Operation should have one for sure, possibly Dropship Operation as well. Or Marauder variants should be added instead, either way. In this case though, its easy to see where that resistance is coming from and why its there. Just saying a vehicle should have modified resistance simply because its a specific type of vehicle? I think its a bad idea.
If there was different classifications of AV, I could see it. Light AV vs Heavy AV for example, with associated resistances based on vehicle type. Once again, there is a clear distinction for its presence and not 'just cause I felt like it'. |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
3072
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:50:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Anyone else like how he flip flopped saying now drop ships should have less defense against swarms since the crowd turned against him GO read the OP. Stop, then read it again. Then explain to me, so I know you read it the difference between damage profiles and Defence and why they are so different when it comes to balance.
You need to better explain your original post. If AV is balanced around one vehicle vs another. How is it unbalanced? Your thread would go over with even some basic quantitative explanation of your post. It just sounds like you're whining that AV is OP against your ADS. |
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