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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.24 00:58:00 -
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WTF is this thread?
Quote:So a Rifle or MD does the same damage to a Scout as it does to a[n] Assault. So CCP. Explain how you feel that two frames that have vastly different effective Hit Points should take the same damage?
It defies logic. If Rifles or MDs are balanced against Assaults, then they are not against dropships. If they are fair against dropships then they are not against tanks.
Are you just pulling damage and resistance numbers from thin air? Because that is what it looks like.
Please, by all means, QQ moar when my HAV can [/i]OUTRUN A SWARM LAUNCHER OR OUTSTRAFE A FORGE[/i].
Do you propose giving ADS an identical EHP vs Infantry AV as have HAVs?
I guess I'm okay with that. In the meantime, I want my railgun range + damage back, because a DS with 8k EHP and the ability to circle nearly faster than turning speed is OP AS FUCK.
While we're on the topic, you're a vehicle pilot. Why would you leave OMS matches? I'm starting to think there might be something to all that crap Takahiro spouts.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.24 00:59:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:ADS can lolAB away . No it cannot. If you think it can, you are not experianced enough in dropships. ROFLCOPTER A rail tank can fire two shots before an afterburner is hit I've done this enough to know If I don't land 2 shots I'll have to back off recover my damage mods and come at him again, if it's a nub pilot or I have an exceptionally great location I can land 3 shots. I've worked with some of the best Forge Gunners in PC and from what I hear landing the first and second shot is easy how ever any experienced Pilot can generally escape the 3rd shot unless the Forger gets lucky so yes maybe you aren't the experienced one. You have no idea how much better this makes me feel about my FGing abilities; I can never land the third shot either :)
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: Lol like every AVer groups me in with Spkr and Taka........ you just have to HTFU because they won't.
I don't. Don't what?
HTFU?
(I keed, I keed )
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:36:00 -
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tween tween wrote:Listen to what. Was off for 1,5 weeks and they launched hotfix bravo.
Came home, slightly drunk and decided to see what the hotfix was all about. Mind I'm a tanker playing domination.
What happen was that my tanks were all eff'd up, but I'll save that for another day. As per usual, Judge was in his dropship on the other team with Delboy and CEOpyrex in missile tanks, his own little gang. Now one thing is my railgun being completely ou outranged by these missile tanks but even as I drove back into the redline, we were loosing pretty bad. I could even poke out and look in the redline as judge just flew in and nearly wrecked my shield rail's again and again, succeeded aswell a couple of times.
You write this and that about dropships, yet you fail to mention the times you farm tanks yourself and please, next time you upload a one of your pity videos, let it be from one of the times your actually "playing" the game - that is playing with Pyrex and Delboy, who cover you arse anyways most of the times. My Particle Cannon hits out to 300m, and my XT-201s hit to 250m, and they do it with 48% efficiency against shields.
I think you need to get good, or better yet, avoid 3v1s (which I would consider an important part of considering yourself a competent tanker).
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Posted - 2014.06.27 17:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I don't really even bother flying now. A single ADV swarm is enough to kill me now if I so much as hover for a moment, it's silly. It's nice that they completely ruined large railguns, but I'm not putting 500K on the line so some idiot who can't aim can just spam missiles and take me out.
I basically just don't play much at all anymore, handing balance over to the "community" was a questionable decision at best.
Swarms have always needed help, but now they're just obnoxious. At least forge guns require you to aim and have an understanding of timings.
A single volley of proto swarms can deal (and this is maxxed MinMando, 2x Cx damage mods + Prof 5) 2195 damage to armour.
On the flipside, those same swarms will deal 1272 damage to shields.
A hardener will reduce that damage to 1646 to armour, which, including the Incubus' base shields should be plenty to tank two shots. It should even be possible without a hardener - 3k armour should do the trick. And burning away out of the 175m lock range should sort your problems right out. I'm sorry, but I don't really see the problem here.
(For reference, an Ishukone Assault FG will deal in the regions of 2000 damage to your armour with the same number of damage mods fitted (a third adds about 50 damage), while dealing 1626 to shields.)
I just went off to protofits and built an Incubus with 3539 armour EHP against unproficiency'd swarms (4247 base), on top of 1187 shield EHP (950 base) for a total of 4700 EHP (5197 before resistances); including a Complex Afterburner, escaping from a fully specced Proto-Swarm-Double-Complex-Damage-Mod-Proto-MinMando should be reasonably straightforward. And if he's running all that, odds are he can't fit anything else.
As for ADV swarms, they deal 1829 to armour and 1060 to shields (after resistances).
I'm of the opinion that these swarms are fine, especially considering the incredibly short range they have relative to vehicle movement speed, and the vulnerability of the wearer (my friend's MinMando runs less EHP than my Ferro-tanked Assault...)
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