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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:47:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Alright. So, at first, I thought it was going to be awesome watching all of the nerfs on vehicles b/c it would make AV so much easier. Now it is so unbelievably easy NO ONE IS USING VEHICLES. And the few that do get completely annihilated. Or perhaps the majority of players have stopped spamming them because they're bad pilots who can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag now that Swarm Launchers actually do something to them.
That's most likely the case.
I want SLAVs, not SLAVEs.
"Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..."
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:52:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote: All they had to do was increase efficacy for swarms against Incubus. The RE thing is actually good. Now you have to use some CPU and PG in order to get higher level RE's to use against tanks. AV nades are about right. I honestly can't see why or how anything after that made any sense.
The only other changes they made to AV was buffing the Plasma Cannon and fixing the glitch where Proficiency Skills were not applying against vehicles.
I think fixing glitches makes sense.
I want SLAVs, not SLAVEs.
"Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..."
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.06.24 00:20:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote: 2) @Atiim, I think vehicles were over nerfed. I am not against a little nerf but I think things were a bit overnerfed between Hotfix A and B. I think they should have taken smaller steps is all. I get that some bad players were getting away with seeming skilled when they weren't but even skilled vehicle users are suffering a little to my Proto Swarms.
How were they overnerfed?
Besides bug-fixes, the only thing that was nerfed was the HP/s on Armor Repairers, which was indeed warranted. I think your starting to see the effects of what happens when bad players don't have gear to carry them.
I want SLAVs, not SLAVEs.
"Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..."
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.06.24 02:40:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote: I stand by bugs should have been fixed in Bravo. I think they should have nerfed reps in Charlie. One at a time. All your other criticism is valid.
While that does seem good in theory, even if the proficiency change made AV weapons effective against Triple 'Rep' Madrugars, the HP/s would still need to be nerfed in the sense that they were making Shield Tanks (the ones that are supposed to have high regen, but with lower buffer) obsolete.
Not to mention that it the Triple 'Rep' Madrugar would still be able to out-DPS 80GJ Blasters, which are also AV weapons.
I want SLAVs, not SLAVEs.
"Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..."
-HAND
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.06.24 22:51:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:I'm just going to chalk this up to you being an idiot.
I never once said tanks were under powered. Implicitly, yes you did.
Eko Sol wrote:Now it is so unbelievably easy NO ONE IS USING VEHICLES. And the few that do get completely annihilated. You shouldn't insult people for actually reading your posts.
Eko Sol wrote:I stated, numerous times, that the changes to vehicles were too much too quickly. And this is where Monkey's statement about you being told off by CCP Ratatti comes into play, as Rattati said that the only changes made to vehicles which effects V/AV balance was an HP/s nerf.
I want SLAVs, not SLAVEs.
"Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..."
-HAND
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