DUST Search - Killstreak WP

Rizlax Yazzax wrote:

Boot Booter wrote:

Rizlax Yazzax wrote:

It's late. I'm drunk. So instead of my usual, calm, rational posts I offer you this.......

Go back to CoD. This is a team game, not "EHHRRGH MURRHH GUUURRRD, luk how much I gnk! I am t3h bestest!"

The last time I played CoD was like 6 years ago. I really hate when people use this reference as if it caries any weight. I've been playing dust since open beta. It's a team game that doesn't reward being a slayer.

Glad to see so many people are willing to discuss this in a mature way (glad to hear you are enjoying your night at least). Are the points I suggest really that game breaking? No. You probably just want to keep your easy ISK making from your rep tool. Its ok I understand.

Now that I'm sober and incredibly hung over, I honestly couldn't care less if they introduced kill streak bonuses. You say slayers should be rewarded for being slayers, how would you propose scouts are rewarded for being scouts? As mentioned by yourself, Logis get their rewards.

Speaking of which, rep tool easy WP yes. Easy ISK no. Logis are prime targets in a battle and since I do more than leash a heavy all match, with minimal/no tank, It's incredibly easy for me to go ISK negative. I earn my WP by doing my job and keeping the team going, even if I have to die doing so.


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Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 597	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:28:00 - [1] - Quote This game would be much more fun and rewarding to assaults / slayers with killstreak WP. 3 kills in a row = 10 WP 5 kills in a row = 50 WP 10 kills in a row = 200 WP 20 kills in a row = 500 WP Just throwing numbers out there. Thoughts? SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 597	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: no because it coudl cause even more orbitals and feeing of WP to call even more orbitals.. and keep your killstreaks in COD So increase the amount of WP needed for orbital or not make orbitals count towards the killstreak. Two obvious solutions. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 599	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:11:00 - [3] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: No. WPs are designed to reward tactically valuable actions/behavior thus promote team and role focused play. Killstreaks have no inherent tactical value on the battlefield. Killing five people should be and is rewarded on a per-kill basis. Whether or not you just so happen to get yourself gibbed in the process is irrelevant to the killing itself. Dying is already discouraged through its impact on your k/d, ISK loss and the resulting team clone loss on top of being inherently undesirable for its tactical impact. You shouldn't reward something just because it's harder to do when it makes literally no practical difference. I'd actually remove the head-shot bonus and replace it with a clone termination one for the very same reason. But that's me... Edit: TL;DR: "Do you want try-hards? 'Cause that's how you get try-hards." - S. Malory Archer Why is everyone so against this? My role is killing the enemy. That's what I do. Sure I could strap up in my logi suit and easily get over 3000 WP in a match but when I'm in my assault suit and I go 25/0, struggling to get 1500 WP, this is what you call fair? I'm pretty sure single handedly eliminating 1/6 of the enemy clones is far better than following around a fatty with a rep tool. Killstreak WP help solve this problem and ******* news flash it does have tactical value. You think the red who was just slaughtered 5 times in a row is going to push as hard towards objectives? What about all the time I've given my team on "man up" opportunities while reds are respawning. I don't want to say logis get too much WP because I know I'll get hated on and, honestly, I think they deserve it when they have a good game. However, I am tired of ending up below squads of heavies and logis when I absolutely crush enemy clone counts game after game. Killstreak WP allow slayers to be properly rewarded for their efforts. Tl;dr You don't know what you're talking about. Killing is a role on the battlefield. Killstreak WP not only properly rewards the slayer role but also adds fun for everyone. Don't pull BS try hard lines at me, the game is about two things, eliminating the enemy mcc or clones. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 599	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:51:00 - [4] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: It's late. I'm drunk. So instead of my usual, calm, rational posts I offer you this....... Go back to CoD. This is a team game, not "EHHRRGH MURRHH GUUURRRD, luk how much I gnk! I am t3h bestest!" The last time I played CoD was like 6 years ago. I really hate when people use this reference as if it caries any weight. I've been playing dust since open beta. It's a team game that doesn't reward being a slayer. Glad to see so many people are willing to discuss this in a mature way (glad to hear you are enjoying your night at least). Are the points I suggest really that game breaking? No. You probably just want to keep your easy ISK making from your rep tool. Its ok I understand. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 599	Posted - 2014.06.25 06:42:00 - [5] - Quote OP FOTM wrote: let's give nyain san a couple trillion more isk while we're at it It's hard to take you seriously with a name like that but I'll try. First of all, the points I suggest hardly equal a couple trillion isk. You can still make far more with a rep tool (assuming nyain san makes isk off of pubs lol) Second who the **** cares, it's not like they're going to run out unless ccp adds WP for killsteaks. Seriously no one has made a single good argument just throwing around words like no, cod, and try hard doesn't cut it. If you're not going to be constructive then GTFO. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 599	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:32:00 - [6] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Rizlax Yazzax wrote: It's late. I'm drunk. So instead of my usual, calm, rational posts I offer you this....... Go back to CoD. This is a team game, not "EHHRRGH MURRHH GUUURRRD, luk how much I gnk! I am t3h bestest!" The last time I played CoD was like 6 years ago. I really hate when people use this reference as if it caries any weight. I've been playing dust since open beta. It's a team game that doesn't reward being a slayer. Glad to see so many people are willing to discuss this in a mature way (glad to hear you are enjoying your night at least). Are the points I suggest really that game breaking? No. You probably just want to keep your easy ISK making from your rep tool. Its ok I understand. Now that I'm sober and incredibly hung over, I honestly couldn't care less if they introduced kill streak bonuses. You say slayers should be rewarded for being slayers, how would you propose scouts are rewarded for being scouts? As mentioned by yourself, Logis get their rewards. Speaking of which, rep tool easy WP yes. Easy ISK no. Logis are prime targets in a battle and since I do more than leash a heavy all match, with minimal/no tank, It's incredibly easy for me to go ISK negative. I earn my WP by doing my job and keeping the team going, even if I have to die doing so. Well I'm not entirely sure as I rarely use scouts. Good scouts could certainly benefit from killstreak WP. Also I think scouts are the best hackers and rewarded quite nicely for doing that. What would you suggest to reward being a good scout in terms of WP? Are scouts struggling to make WP? As for the rep tool thing, I personally make a ton of money being a logi. It's really not much more expensive than my assault and far less risky, but that's just me. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 623	Posted - 2014.06.26 22:17:00 - [7] - Quote Kurai-Ronin wrote: Boot Booter wrote: This game would be much more fun and rewarding to assaults / slayers with killstreak WP. 3 kills in a row = 10 WP 5 kills in a row = 50 WP 10 kills in a row = 200 WP 20 kills in a row = 500 WP Edit: Orbital kills do not count towards killstreaks. Just throwing numbers out there. Thoughts? If you want this then remove Orbital its OP This has nothing to do with orbitals. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 625	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:55:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Kurai-Ronin wrote: Boot Booter wrote: This game would be much more fun and rewarding to assaults / slayers with killstreak WP. 3 kills in a row = 10 WP 5 kills in a row = 50 WP 10 kills in a row = 200 WP 20 kills in a row = 500 WP Edit: Orbital kills do not count towards killstreaks. Just throwing numbers out there. Thoughts? If you want this then remove Orbital its OP This has nothing to do with orbitals. Why do you want to be rewarded more for doing your job? I want to be properly payed for doing the hardest job. SMG Specialist
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 625	Posted - 2014.06.27 16:13:00 - [9] - Quote @korvin It wasn't really an argument. Just wondering how scouts should be rewarded for doing their job. Why do people assume killing is mindless. It is by far the most difficult job and it removes an enemy player for at least 10 or so seconds, allowing for friendly units to move in. I just assume when people say that it means they aren't good enough to do it or they're a logi. Most close fights are won by clone reserves or as a direct result of clone reserves (low on clones, can't push objectives). Stomps are won by mcc. Depends on the map really. But no you're right, killing is worthless for your team. In fact, let's just put away all our guns and playing a hacking game instead. Point for defending and attacking objectives is interesting but not all fights happen near objectives. Sometimes the best fights happen near supply depots or CRUs. Not to mention this is just handing more WP to the heavy logi combo. All I'm saying is going 25/0 should equal more WP than 1250. Especially when I can get 3000+ per match with a rep tool. SMG Specialist