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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.23 10:05:00 -
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A flat upgrade to a solo HAV means AV's either boned once one comes out to play, like a lion playing with its cubs, or alternatively it's rebalanced so's Basic HAVs are stomped, like an ant's nest under the gentle caress of a group of twelve-year-olds.
Marauders cannot come back in their old form without ruining the partial balance we've achieved (well, FGs have) through such blood, sweat and years (was a typo, but I'm keeping it).
They would need some serious reworking to be balanced upon rerelease.
(I'm a fan of separated turrets and massive EHP buffs, combined with small DPS nerfs. Then a split turret Enforcer could come back as the reverse to ruin them).
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I have to say Lorhak I completely oppose the split turrets thing.
Why?
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.23 13:19:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Infantry - STD/ADV/PROTO - This is what infantry gets, a straight upgrade from the next suit
Vehicles - STD - This is it, that is all vehicle pilots get to choose from a STD hull which is completely nerfed when compared to the old STD hulls of the 5/2 layout but we cant have anything better because thats not fair to infantry
Split turrets again idea - So it takes 2 players to use a vehicle, will it take 2 players to use your logi suit? will it take 2 20mil SP vehicle pilots to use this vehicle? who skills up what? does the vehicle get extra bonuses since it takes 2 to use it? who calls it in? who pays for it? who skills up for it? do i get a vehicle lock? Will it take 2ppl to use a FG or SL or a PLC?
Cant scream for tiercide for one playstyle when the other playstyle ignores it
Takes two players to use a vehicle that takes two players to destroy.
Presumably one of them would pay for it. I imagine that a reasonable relationship would involve the gunner paying for half and the driver paying for the other half.
I am personally of the opinion that both of them would share passive bonuses like ADSes do now (although balanced with that in mind, unlike ADS).
Think of it more like an LAV.
I'm screaming tiericide for infantry too, believe me.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:03:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:I have to say Lorhak I completely oppose the split turrets thing. Why? Because I skilled into tanks. I skilled into turrets. I skilled into all my vehicle skills to 5. I did not do these things to just drive. But if you think this is a good idea, surely the equivalent would be logis with no weapon right? To encourage teamwork?
The whole point I'm trying to make is that you don't have to.
Describe to me a way to balance those vehicles to current AV without returning us to 1.6 where the only viable tanks were the most expensive ones, or to 1.7 where infantry AV stands literally no chance.
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