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Cody Sietz
Sver true blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 03:06:00 -
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They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Sver true blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:36:00 -
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Up!
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1351
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:44:00 -
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I don't think they can just lock out plates...
I still think they need to % out the HP of Plates. Or make it so the speed reduction becomes greater the smaller the suit.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
492
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Posted - 2014.06.22 15:11:00 -
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I am definitely in support of anti-brick tanking. My E/War got nerfed when it wasn't to blame  |
Cody Sietz
Sver true blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 15:46:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:I don't think they can just lock out plates...
I still think they need to % out the HP of Plates. Or make it so the speed reduction becomes greater the smaller the suit.
I'd be fine with that, as long as they restore some of our eWar aspects.
@Kallas, it's sad out the 87/162 scouts got nerfed because of 600+ehp scouts.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.06.22 16:02:00 -
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Yes please. Bring back dampening as it was, leave range as is if you want. Otherwise nerf precision for Caldari Scouts. |
Cody Sietz
Sver true blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 17:46:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Yes please. Bring back dampening as it was, leave range as is if you want. Otherwise nerf precision for Caldari Scouts.
If be fine with either one tbh, it was gimped into the ground.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.22 17:55:00 -
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Agree
Otherwise remove all e-war abilities from cal and gal, give them another bonus and let EW be influenced only by modules (finally reach scout parity)
EW mod = wallhack
NO EW mod = no wallhack
PSN: ogamega
I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.06.22 17:55:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Yes please. Bring back dampening as it was, leave range as is if you want. Otherwise nerf precision for Caldari Scouts.
I agree stamina and speed decrease on stacking armor but increasing gal damps decreasing cal scouts from 3% to below that is not get balanced and why does he gal scout have that radius bonus any way?
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
991
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Posted - 2014.06.22 20:38:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers.
The funny thing now the only rella viable fits are brick tanked or partly tanked gal scouts. I am more or less fine with the range removal even though I believe CCP shoud remove the scan range bonus alltogether in favour for a different bonus.
The dampening bonus should be restored or buffed to 4% per level as long as stealth will still be the main role for the gal scout.
If CCP don't like the dampening and scan range replace both boni with ones that do better fit... |
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.06.22 20:47:00 -
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I agree with the number of other scouts that think the bonus should be to the module and not an innate bonus to the suit. This way you can still get your dampening, but only if you are actually equipping the modules.
It helps to fix both the dampening issue and the tanking issue.
This is how a minja feels
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
958
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Posted - 2014.06.22 20:56:00 -
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Indeed. Lock out plates.
Put a band aid on that gunshot wound as it festers and oozes. It's a good idea.
Trust me. I'm a doctor.
I am a minotaur.
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Cody Sietz
Sver true blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 21:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I agree with the number of other scouts that think the bonus should be to the module and not an innate bonus to the suit. This way you can still get your dampening, but only if you are actually equipping the modules.
It helps to fix both the dampening issue and the tanking issue.
Yes, this. Actually, this is a good idea for all scout suits.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
3403
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Posted - 2014.06.23 13:41:00 -
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Up
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1450
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:37:00 -
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I think they should have it back but at the same time, what does brick tanking even matter really?
Who cares I mean really, guys like roner general have been rocking fully tanked gal scouts since uprising, high slot fits suck, shields suck, damage mods suck and giving a suit respect, a scout buff and a cloak all at the same time is the problem not scouts or plates.
My amar scout is bricked only because it has no ewar skills at all. My gal is my fast ewar fit and cal is my city open fit and I also use my amar for open fghting even sometimes with a scout repping me as a bricked assault which is what work well with amar, that or fast with knives.
Thereal problem was suit respec
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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headbust
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
48
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:08:00 -
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i second this motion we need something we have crappy ewar all the way round
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
3407
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Posted - 2014.06.23 22:52:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I think they should have it back but at the same time, what does brick tanking even matter really?
Who cares I mean really, guys like roner general have been rocking fully tanked gal scouts since uprising, high slot fits suck, shields suck, damage mods suck and giving a suit respect, a scout buff and a cloak all at the same time is the problem not scouts or plates.
My amar scout is bricked only because it has no ewar skills at all. My gal is my fast ewar fit and cal is my city open fit and I also use my amar for open fghting even sometimes with a scout repping me as a bricked assault which is what work well with amar, that or fast with knives.
Thereal problem was suit respec
It's mostly because of how it outdid the assault in every way, I think a simple boost to ehp and CPU/PG adjustments for the assault suit would have brought it in live with the scout suit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3885
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Posted - 2014.06.24 04:31:00 -
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I agree:
Module efficacy should be implemented
I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11081
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Posted - 2014.06.24 04:40:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers.
OH BOO ******* WHO CODY!
Now you know how the Amarr Scout feels...except your Gallente Scouts are still better!
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.24 05:02:00 -
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Are you bloody serious right now?
I can't believe the QQ I am reading in this thread. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the cloak nerf have ONLY forced you to use an extra dampener, or 2 complex instead of 1 comp 1 basic?
Get over yourselves... |
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Lynn Beck
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.24 07:29:00 -
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The problem isn't tha now we have to fit damps. It's the fact Calscouts are even more rampant, and that it's literally useless to try and dodge them, because they have higher HP than your dampened fit, and still have squadshare.
I agree with reimplementing the 25% bonus, but make it a module Efficacy bonus.
BAM. Wanna use that bonus you spent 2.4 mill investing into? Put on a damned module.
BAAAAM. Tanked scouts are now (less) relevant!
BAM. I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:22:00 -
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Triple the speed penalty for regular plates (ie, non-ferro/reactive) on light frames. Bring back the ewar.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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headbust
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
49
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Posted - 2014.06.24 15:45:00 -
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bump
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.24 16:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers. OH BOO ******* WHO CODY! Now you know how the Amarr Scout feels...except your Gallente Scouts are still better!
At least you have the best Assault/Heavy/Logi.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
3413
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:47:00 -
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Uppppp?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
5451
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:31:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers.
They don't need to get rid of plates.
They just need Small, Medium, and Large versions of them (Like in EVE)
Scale CPU/PG of suits to fit the size of modules they should fit.
Get rid of Basic, ADV and PRO, just have T1 and T2.
I didn't think this was a great idea until I started playing EVE. It does just make so much more sense. You can tank out a smaller ship, but you lose soo much fitting potential to do so, since it costs so much more CPU/PG
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Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
3413
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Posted - 2014.06.24 23:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:They nerfed GalScout's eWar abilities and basically made it useless for scouting.
Lock the suit so it can't use plates, you punished real scouts to get rid of FoTM chasers. They don't need to get rid of plates. They just need Small, Medium, and Large versions of them (Like in EVE) Scale CPU/PG of suits to fit the size of modules they should fit. Get rid of Basic, ADV and PRO, just have T1 and T2. I didn't think this was a great idea until I started playing EVE. It does just make so much more sense. You can tank out a smaller ship, but you lose soo much fitting potential to do so, since it costs so much more CPU/PG
I agree, but I doubt we will see any changes on this scale in dust.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
3415
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:34:00 -
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Uppppp.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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headbust
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
50
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:00:00 -
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bump
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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