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        |  SAIRAX SIS
 Nyain San
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.06.22 00:17:00 -
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 [Fact]
 Assault HMGs has not been used much :/
 That reason is that the normal and burst types are too strong in all aspects...
 
 N and B need optimal and effective range nerf.
 These are provide sufficient power at 50m. This is stupid !!!pÇÇ
  
 and, Assault HMG needs buff ! This is middle range shooter.
 
 
 [My opinion]
 Adjustment of the CCP is too extreme always, I want you to stop cry the HMG user...
 
 Normal and Burst nerf
 
 ex1. Does not change the optimum range.pÇÇEffective range nerf.
 ex2. Raise the heat value, making it difficult to fire medium-range shooting from continuing fire.
 
 Assault buff
 
 ex1. By increasing the hit rate, so as to have the advantage in the middle range.
 ex2. When increasing the DPS which, therefore becomes stronger than current normall type, Do Not change damage.
 
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        |  Lorhak Gannarsein
 Legio DXIV
 
 3683
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.22 00:43:00 -
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 I like this idea. The HMG is a bit extreme at the moment. The AssHMG could probably do with a bit of a damage tweak also IMO; its low damage isn't really justified by its marginally increased range, and I don't think an RoF range buff would cut it.
 
 
 
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        |  XxGhazbaranxX
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 1583
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.22 08:29:00 -
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 This again???
 
 The HMG is fine CCP said so. If they change anything they will tamper with overheat.
 
 
 CCP Rattati wrote:I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray. 
 
 
 Engage at your optimal not the HMG's BLAH BLAH BLAH.
 
 There are like a gazilian threads asking for HMG nerf and none of them are very well though out.
 
 Explanation on why HMG range/damage is fine
 
 OVERHEAT VIDEO for purpose of discussion
 
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        |  SAIRAX SIS
 Nyain San
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 80
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.22 08:39:00 -
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 Rattati think from the perspective of low level player.
 Do not quote your convenient.
 
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        |  Kilo Shells
 G.L.O.R.Y
 Dark Taboo
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.22 22:47:00 -
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 Interesting...
 What about the decreased spread while firing?
 
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        |  Summ Dude
 Direct Action Resources
 
 376
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.23 02:56:00 -
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 I agree that the Assault HMG is pretty much useless right now. But I'm with Rattati on the HMG's current effectiveness (but then maybe I'm biased). Anyway, I think easily the biggest thing the Assault HMG needs is significantly tighter dispersion. It's extra range is basically meaningless when it's spread is exactly the same as a the basic HMG. So just tighter dispersion, with perhaps slightly increased range (perhaps), and would we really need an HMG nerf?
 
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        |  XxGhazbaranxX
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 1590
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.23 03:45:00 -
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 Kilo Shells wrote:Interesting... What about the decreased spread while firing? 
 
 Even with decreased spread the results are the same. If it was real fire situation it could even be less since 39% of the damage is on the dot in the middle which, if not on target, wastes 39% of the damage. So 50% would be the max DPS for a perfect shot with an HMG on the optimal range.
 
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        |  Lilith Serenity
 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
 
 10
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.06.23 04:48:00 -
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 Assualt Variant could use a minor range buff (maybe 15 more meters) but there's no need to nerf normal and burst variants. Normal only works well in CQ conditions and Burst takes skill to land the full burst on a single moving target (Especially a scout) and overheats really fast.
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