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Malkai Inos
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:14:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:AV is still joke. Mlt gear does nothing to deter any AV. So until AV is balanced to match the AV output, AV just isn't an option for anyone but those in proto gear.
And tankers will QQ once AV is balanced. Vehicles (save for LLAVS which are now gone) were pretty much pointless to even field from most of beta up until 1.6 and pilots never went as far as demanding their own game mode.
No, I know who's taking the QQ crown.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:20:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Hey man, we understand that. But to remain in one mold is bad for your health, anywhere, especially in New Eden. Like Bruce Lee said, be as water. Adjust to the situation. You're not the first that had to change his game due to changes in game and you won't be the last. My style and approach to battles has changed numerous times over the two years I've played this game.
In other words, you have to adapt or die. Your right I have to adapt to tanks being in skirm and Dom much more than they were before because of the update. I have to become a tanker or av specialist first. That to me IS the problem. I have to adapt to tankers first before I can enjoy the game as a gunner. Yea this game is designed so that its really best that you're skilled into multiple roles. I learned that early this year and I've been playing for about two years. Trust me, it helps a great deal to have options in the dropsuit closet. I'll qualify that in saying that you don't have to be good against everything but you need to be aware of your limits.
As a Logi, to me running into a heavy on my own is no less suicide than standing in front of a tank. But I can offer my direct or indirect support to those who can deal with that so they can get rid of them.
See a forge gunner not getting to focus on the enemy tank because of support infantry surpressing him? He'll probably appreciate you getting rid of those guys and kill the tank in return.
Be aware of your role and act accordingly. Do not expect to be able to handle every situation and learn to realize when it's time to back up. Also, squad up! That will get you farther than any amount of skillpoints.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:David Mustane wrote:AV is still joke. Mlt gear does nothing to deter any AV. So until AV is balanced to match the AV output, AV just isn't an option for anyone but those in proto gear.
And tankers will QQ once AV is balanced. Vehicles (save for LLAVS which are now gone) were pretty much pointless to even field from most of beta up until 1.6 and pilots never went as far as demanding their own game mode. No, I know who's taking the QQ crown. Infantry & AV QQ still has not come close to the level of Pilot QQ, and most likely never will. Good attempt at trolling though. You may actually manage to fool the people who weren't here for that era.. Again, pilots haven't essentially told Infantry to go play somewhere else, now have they?
This is what happened here: "**** your playstyle, **** you personally. This is my sandbox now and you'll only use the toys i'm okay with."
No amount of forum QQ does even compare to this level disregard for other members of the community. This is a completely new level.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 02:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
No, but there has never been a valid reason for them to either, so your point is moot.
Nor do I think there is a valid reason now. Bad balance is bad balance and hardly a reason to seperate the playerbase. Neither side should have a prior privilege regarding who they'd like to play with. Infantry has now been granted such privilege.
Atiim wrote:
It kinda reminds of when pilots demanded that it take multiple players to destroy them, regardless of ISK/SP investment, basically (and in some instances literally) saying "**** you" to AV players who've given up their SP and Anti-Personnel capabilities for the sole purpose of destroying them.
Making specific demands regarding balance between two playstyles, however outlandish they may be, does not equal a downright ban of one of them.
Atiim wrote:Well, no. This level of disregard has also been shown in places such as The Sidearm-Only Logi Discussion. It's not new, or un-heard of. Not to mention that there were actual good reasons surrounding this one. Cutting down the offensive capabilities of a primarily support unit doesn't compare to this situation either. Nerf proposals that are focused on limiting a certain class to its primary role and hardly compare to locking them out of certain modes. I wasn't too opposed to that one either being a logi myself btw.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 02:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Tanks can't be everywhere at the same time, now they have to deploy more tactically and help cap points. They can still redline camp and pad their KDR, but Infantry can safely deploy far from them and effectively ignore them while having a good time.
I would generally say that this trend is positive for the game. Could you comment on the current lack of player choice between regular ambush and OMS? Would you consider this a problem?
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:19:00 -
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castba wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Again, pilots haven't essentially told Infantry to go play somewhere else, now have they?
This is what happened here: "**** your playstyle, **** you personally. This is my sandbox now and you'll only use the toys i'm okay with."
No amount of forum QQ does even compare to this level disregard for other members of the community. This is a completely new level. Out of curiosity, how many of the ambush playing tankers do you think would play a vehicle-only mode? Of just the tankers? Probably not a huge amount seeing as their current design pretty much consists of infantry denial and killing other tanks, the former of which wouldn't be possible, the latter of which would be unsustainable for just about everyone.
I know what you're getting at and you have a point. But let me just say that the same dynamics apply to AV focused roles in ambush right now. They too no longer fill any sensible purpose there because they're dependant on vehicles as targets.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:castba wrote:Out of curiosity, how many of the ambush playing tankers do you think would play a vehicle-only mode? Before the vehicle overhaul, there was a major push for a "Vehicle only" request for HAV enthusiasts, never happened though, and I doubt it ever will. It would be a pain to even enforce, given how we have to call vehicles in and don't spawn in them. Searching for vehicle only turn up this gem. CB though, and it doesn't seem to bee meant very seriously.
Beyond that. I trust O'Dell (oh look, she's one of two likes in that thread) to support such a thing but that person was notorious for being pretty extreme in that regard.
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