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DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:42:00 -
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Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
If you think tanking is I-Win button now you .... welp..... ugh this community who can't accept they just got beaten by something they personally don't like...... Frankly I am going to say this to you. If you don't want to lose mount your own armoured attack. If the enemy is willing to commit X amount of assets to a fight then you need to be, or have a strategy to defeat them.... if not then you deserve to lose.
Yep and you are what's ruining this game
. I have 2.5 mil SP and no av yet. I guess I should just quit then according to you I should be able to kill tanks. Lol
Can we say elite dumb ass. |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:00:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
Where'd you get those games? Today was rather boring when I tanked for the first time in weeks. Only a few tanks at most to pop. It felt like a ghost town in comparison to 1.7/1.8 with all those militia tanks about. Edit: I was even in matches where there were more ADS than tanks...
And how many tanks did you have on your side? Maybe your team was the problem |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:12:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:lol how does one know all of this? Did you do some data collecting? What's the point of this thread anyway? Are you moaning about the fact that Tanks are still around? Or you don't respect people who are pilots? I really don't get it.
My fault tanks are not an issue.lol
Whatever it must be nice to be a tanker I guess. Easy point and shoot half the players or more on the field can do 0 damage to you. If you do get In Trouble just drive off to the redline.
Yes not a problem at all. Must be nice to have the money to run them . |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:15:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:David Mustane wrote:AV is still joke. Mlt gear does nothing to deter any AV. So until AV is balanced to match the AV output, AV just isn't an option for anyone but those in proto gear.
And tankers will QQ once AV is balanced. LOL what are you talking about? I can whip out a cheap standard FG and still put in work. You can even skill into remotes to help out. Or try some AV nades. Two or three people concentrating on AV produces results. HTFU
Obvious tanker protecting his I Win Button cause he is afraid to actually gun |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:True Adamance wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
If you think tanking is I-Win button now you .... welp..... ugh this community who can't accept they just got beaten by something they personally don't like...... Frankly I am going to say this to you. If you don't want to lose mount your own armoured attack. If the enemy is willing to commit X amount of assets to a fight then you need to be, or have a strategy to defeat them.... if not then you deserve to lose. Yep and you are what's ruining this game . I have 2.5 mil SP and no av yet. I guess I should just quit then according to you I should be able to kill tanks. Lol Can we say elite dumb ass. You are assuming that I did not go through the same things you are now when I started....except back then I had to deal with Closed Beta vets running High SP Marauder Tanks....... you think the current Tanks are powerful? Those monsters were so scary CCP removed them from the game. What I am saying is that you and your team should be willing to invest in your own HAV, and you can. MLT HAV currently invalidate a good 60% of my SP and I have about 20 Million in HAV in HAV. You can counter any highly invested Tanker with minimal effort now. Thank you its pretty obvious that I will have to go In to tanks to compete. I can help you learn to destroy enemy HAV if you would like, teach you how to Tank yourself if you want.
Thank you it is pretty obvious if I want to continue playing this game I will have to skill into tanks to survive any length of time.
Not by choice but because my skill level is not competitive. |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
You are assuming that I did not go through the same things you are now when I started....except back then I had to deal with Closed Beta vets running High SP Marauder Tanks....... you think the current Tanks are powerful? Those monsters were so scary CCP removed them from the game.
What I am saying is that you and your team should be willing to invest in your own HAV, and you can.
MLT HAV currently invalidate a good 60% of my SP and I have about 20 Million in HAV in HAV. You can counter any highly invested Tanker with minimal effort now.
Thank you its pretty obvious that I will have to go In to tanks to compete.
I can help you learn to destroy enemy HAV if you would like, teach you how to Tank yourself if you want.
Thank you it is pretty obvious if I want to continue playing this game I will have to skill into tanks to survive any length of time.
Not by choice but because my skill level is not competitive.[/quote]
Not really.
Aero Yassavi, a squad mate I often play with has no HAV skills, just Assault Forgeguns.
Templar 12 also has no HAV skills, but I think he flies ADS.
Eirik Yassavi (not to be confused with Aero) is a Heavy and has no vehicle skills.
All of them do just fine without HAV.
But don't take my word on it. Guys like Arkena Wynspire, !st Lieutenant Tiberius, Lea Silencio, Viktor Hadah Jr...... I never see them in vehicles and they are widely considered some of this games best players.[/quote]
How many skill points today though?
It might have been different if I played this game for months I would much rather specialise in rifles, but it doesn't make sense , of I don't have AV first I can barely survive.
Granted I could play only ambush from now on but honestly I was enjoying the open maps and the ability to get around to the other letters.
The game has changed since the update and it is much more difficult for us new players against tanks.
Sorry that tankers don't get that but its only because they are protecting their easy button. |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.19 23:44:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Hey man, we understand that. But to remain in one mold is bad for your health, anywhere, especially in New Eden. Like Bruce Lee said, be as water. Adjust to the situation. You're not the first that had to change his game due to changes in game and you won't be the last. My style and approach to battles has changed numerous times over the two years I've played this game.
In other words, you have to adapt or die.
Your right I have to adapt to tanks being in skirm and Dom much more than they were before because of the update.
I have to become a tanker or av specialist first.
That to me IS the problem. I have to adapt to tankers first before I can enjoy the game as a gunner. |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.20 02:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Tanks can't be everywhere at the same time, now they have to deploy more tactically and help cap points. They can still redline camp and pad their KDR, but Infantry can safely deploy far from them and effectively ignore them while having a good time.
I would generally say that this trend is positive for the game.
May I suggest somewhere in the academy you let the new players know that as soon as they graduate they need AV cause after playing in there I had no idea and wasted all my so on other stuff. If I would have known more about the real situation I would have done my skills much differently.
And I guess you ignore 5 enemy vehicles how? Sit back in the redline and use a sniper rifle?
Seriously me and several other players were pushing every which way to get out of the redline to no avail. Jeeps, drop ships other tanks cloaked scouts.
I must be playing a different game than you? |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.20 04:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I had the exact opposite Dom experience yesterday, anecdotal of course, but still. Broke through a 4 tank line, turned the tables completely, claimed the point, lost it, won it again and held on.
This is why I love this game like no other, every action I took meant something, from switching to dedicated AV in the beginning, to establishing a footholdhold with armor hives and uplinks, to breaching with my Duvolle AR and finally to stand and defend in a Sentinel.
You must have a lot of SP.
A logi suit with hives and uplinks
A heavy sentinel suit, a duvolle
I would be happy to have a heavy suit and an advanced forge, I guess in a few months I can at least do one roll you have.
Seems legit unless you have millions of sp invested you can't do much in the game except die. OK I get it now.
Hmm maybe this game is not for me after all. I will keep trying but if the sentiment from the dev team is get good on 2.5 million SP
I just don't know what to say to that.
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.20 04:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:The one thing I do not understand about this community is that a good majority assume that vehicle users have either no gun play, or are simply bad at FPS games. I wonder if people ever considered the thought that some (or most) vehicle users were once mainly infantry in terms of playstyle, and decided to swtich it up a bit to keep things fresh.
I also do not understand why people assume that AV is still a complete joke. I do just fine with any ADV tier forge gun, and have no real reason to pull out proto varients...
I do not mean to be rude, but I wonder how much effort people actually bother to put into destroying vehicles. It's not meant to be strenuously difficult, but not especially easy either. There are still issues regarding swarm launchers and dropship resistances, which are unintended, but surely isn't the end of the world and needlessly needs to be complained about.
I'm a scout, sentinel, commando, part time logi, and Incubus pilot. I tend to favor well and usually place in the top 6, usually amongst other squad members and close friends, who also endeavor in both vehicles and infantry, and are exceptional in both departments. Started Dust as a Logi, then went Assault, then went into HAV, during the time between 1.3 and 1.8 I had more SP in Dropsuit Command than HAV Command, Picked up the Commando a couple of builds ago, now I main Commando and Assault. I'm still better in my HAV, but on foot I'm still reasonably decent with a Scrambler Rifle, only thing I can't do it fly a dropship to save my life.
First world problems |
DEAD-EYE-KILLER
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.20 04:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Yes, I have 27M SP on my main, but my playstyle has not changed at all over time, only the amount of ISK I lose every battle  . The best way to learn this game is actually to be a logi, stay in the second wave with a laser/tar, pick off stragglers and throw down useful equipment for the team. I began as a 500k SP character just like everyone else. My actual CCP Rattati dev character, I never play him actually, maybe I will go out and get killed a few times tonight. He is terrible though, only starter fits and zero isk. I will be easy prey.
Welcome to the new player experience! |
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