I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.

Hi, one of the many things I hear from people who defend the HMG is

with the way some of the maps are especially the Gallente research facility that's nearly impossible. What do they expect us to do exactly? Go for a walk until that heavy gets bored and stops defending the domination point just so I can just get rushed by 5 heavies when they discover I hacked it?

I can often deal with one heavy, sometimes two if they're horrible. But most of the time there are six + of them on one team.

Having quite a lot of respect for you for a lot of your threads, I'm curious about how you feel about this? I just don't entirely agree with having anywhere from 500 and 1000 more HP while having the range(not saying it's long) + DPS it has for marginally lower speed compared to medium frames.

It puts a lot of suits at massive disadvantages if they can't even get near them. There isn't even a reward to try flanking as they can turning around so quickly that even having the first shots on them isn't enough to be at an advantage. The only suit able to compete is the Amarr assault and shotgun scouts which is easily negated by more heavies and/or logis.

I feel bad for the poor blueberries going 1/20 just throwing themselves into the meat grinder because there's just nothing they can do. ;_;

Rock, Paper, Scissors


There are two factors which are contributing to HMG Heavies being too powerful right now and neither has anything to do with the HMG Heavy.

1) Assault suits are a little underpowered right now. Currently they are like Logi suits with less equipment.

I propose a 2% per level Damage bonus added on top of the bonuses they already have.

2) Having a Caldari Scout on your team means that all your Heavies can see all but the most dampened Scouts. Scouts are supposed to be a HMG SentinelGÇÖs hard counter, but it is hard to sneak up behind a Heavy with a Shotgun when you show up on the HeavyGÇÖs radar. (I killed a Cloaked Scout this morning that had a chevron above his head.)

I propose that only the enemy with profiles 5db above a suitGÇÖs precision get transmitted on the Tac-Net.

This way Cal Scouts could still see most other Scouts and do the work of countering them directly, but would not be transmitting their positions to the Sentinels on his team. Cal Scouts would still be doing the Scouting part of their job by transmit the positions of all Medium Frames (unless heavily damped) and any Light Frame suits that have not equipped or skilled for Stealth. (The 5db figure might need to be adjusted.)

do you even play heavy? do you know how meny bullets it takes to actually kill some one who isnt at less then 10 meters? LOTS! and that means constant overheating and wasting ammo.. and its bullcrap that it does 5000 dmg befor it overheats if i could achieve that then i could easily clear entire rooms which is NOT the case.. because at less then 5 meters its hard to keep people in the circle to get as meny bullets to hit as possable.. and over 10 with dispersal it wastes alot of bullets anyway..

STOP WHINING ABOUT HEAVY AND HMG CAUSE YOU SCOUTS ARE TOO STUPID TO FLANK!

try playing heavy for once and see its massive drawbacks.. the only time a heavy works is point control (easly broken with nades, orbital, massdriver or logi supported heavys or snipers, RE) i cant believe people are soo stupid to not think about tactics..
the only think wrong with heavy is yes maybe the Death taxi's but those were ingenious people who got around the limits of slow movement speed and short range.

how abotu less dispersal but shorter max range? 10-15meter optimal and 30meter falloff no change to heat/clip/ammo/turn... that way you stupid idiots can pick on heavys from outside the 30 meter range and if a heavy is doing their job guarding a point then figure out a way to flush em out insted of bitching abotu NERF HMG! NERF HEAVY!


ps if anything the Scrambler rifle is more OP then the HMG as even with out the charged shot it does like 780 DPS (if all shots hit) while HMG does 760 dps IF ALL SHOTS HIT... which they dont.. ever!