DUST Search - Dear Amarr Heavies - you have been buffed

ResistanceGTA wrote:

Long Evity wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Long Evity wrote:

Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/

and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed.

Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy.

I've been using the Templar Heavy suit as my pub suit - and it's incredibly strong, able to stand up to proto, and I can still mostly put proto everything if I leave the nade out.

What exactly is balance for a heavy suit to you compared to other roles? Was it buffed simply to suit a pattern of tiering up like other suits have - or was it not performing?

I really doubt it was due to performance.

You do realize Rattati is talking about the Basic Heavy, not the Basic Level Sentinel suit (which is what your Templar suit is), correct?

The Basic Heavy does not receive role bonuses. These suits, minus the Amarr Heavy, did not have increased CPU/PG when you went up the tiers (since they were introduced).

The Amarr Basic Heavies, according to the spreadsheet, actually had a CPU nerf...

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Long Evity 1678	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:16:00 - [1] - Quote Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 837	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:17:00 - [2] - Quote Wrong no major changes still same shtty modules We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 273	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:17:00 - [3] - Quote It already melts away like it's nothing. Don't start QQing about this... All this is really for is to address the Rail resistance to Shields, methinks. TBH i didnt even notice. how much was the buff? It's a miracle... I'm tearing heavies apart with my GEK again... tears form in my eyes
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3616	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:19:00 - [4] - Quote What shield buff? Only non-complex mods were improved. What kind of Amarr Sentinel uses anything less than complex? Or are you referring to the energisers and regulators? CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 274	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:21:00 - [5] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What shield buff? Only non-complex mods were improved. What kind of Amarr Sentinel uses anything less than complex? Or are you referring to the energisers and regulators? Yeah NO Amarr heavy should ever be using shield mods. But there IS an exception. Dealing with scouts at range, it would probably help more than a second damage mod. Especially with an Assault HMG. It's a miracle... I'm tearing heavies apart with my GEK again... tears form in my eyes
Regnier Feros NoGameNoLife 82	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:26:00 - [6] - Quote 595 shields with 1195 armor sounds lovely (>(^-^)> I like pie do you like pie because i hate pie & I like muffins.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3618	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:27:00 - [7] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What shield buff? Only non-complex mods were improved. What kind of Amarr Sentinel uses anything less than complex? Or are you referring to the energisers and regulators? Yeah NO Amarr heavy should ever be using shield mods. But there IS an exception. Dealing with scouts at range, it would probably help more than a second damage mod. Especially with an Assault HMG. Extenders are nice. A second damage mod is pretty unhelpful IMHO. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Long Evity 1678	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:28:00 - [8] - Quote Wait, they said 'generously' buffed shields - are you guys saying the actual buff isn't 'generous' and the dev blog was miss-leading? SHOCKER I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 132	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:30:00 - [9] - Quote Lulz at duel tanking amarr sentinels. The only time an amarr should be duel tank is if the are gunning in a derp or lav, otherwise damage mods on the high end, always. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
Long Evity 1678	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:32:00 - [10] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: Lulz at duel tanking amarr sentinels. The only time an amarr should be duel tank is if the are gunning in a derp or lav, otherwise damage mods on the high end, always. No, not really. Actually, you gain more EHP then you gain DPS with Cmplx SE's then you do Damage Mods. Dual Tanking heavies have always been the way to go for an anti-heavy suit, and with shield buff it's even more so. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.

Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3618	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:32:00 - [11] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Wait, they said 'generously' buffed shields - are you guys saying the actual buff isn't 'generous' and the dev blog was miss-leading? SHOCKER They buffed everything except complex extenders. Which they did reasonably generously, but not in a way that's useful for armour-tankers. I imagine more shield-oriented suits would be enjoying themselves; I know my CalScout is having a good time with the extra fitting I get from dropping a shield tier. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2764	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:49:00 - [12] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Long Evity 1678	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:59:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy. I've been using the Templar Heavy suit as my pub suit - and it's incredibly strong, able to stand up to proto, and I can still mostly put proto everything if I leave the nade out. What exactly is balance for a heavy suit to you compared to other roles? Was it buffed simply to suit a pattern of tiering up like other suits have - or was it not performing? I really doubt it was due to performance. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1321	Posted - 2014.06.18 17:04:00 - [14] - Quote Long Evity wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy. I've been using the Templar Heavy suit as my pub suit - and it's incredibly strong, able to stand up to proto, and I can still mostly put proto everything if I leave the nade out. What exactly is balance for a heavy suit to you compared to other roles? Was it buffed simply to suit a pattern of tiering up like other suits have - or was it not performing? I really doubt it was due to performance. You do realize Rattati is talking about the Basic Heavy, not the Basic Level Sentinel suit (which is what your Templar suit is), correct? The Basic Heavy does not receive role bonuses. These suits, minus the Amarr Heavy, did not have increased CPU/PG when you went up the tiers (since they were introduced). The Amarr Basic Heavies, according to the spreadsheet, actually had a CPU nerf... If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Long Evity 1679	Posted - 2014.06.18 17:14:00 - [15] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Long Evity wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy. I've been using the Templar Heavy suit as my pub suit - and it's incredibly strong, able to stand up to proto, and I can still mostly put proto everything if I leave the nade out. What exactly is balance for a heavy suit to you compared to other roles? Was it buffed simply to suit a pattern of tiering up like other suits have - or was it not performing? I really doubt it was due to performance. You do realize Rattati is talking about the Basic Heavy, not the Basic Level Sentinel suit (which is what your Templar suit is), correct? The Basic Heavy does not receive role bonuses. These suits, minus the Amarr Heavy, did not have increased CPU/PG when you went up the tiers (since they were introduced). The Amarr Basic Heavies, according to the spreadsheet, actually had a CPU nerf... Ah, I see, now. Thanks for pointing that out. And it getting nerfed was something that happened in Alpha, I believe. As my Pub suit was red after that update. Not that it mattered, templar suit is OP lol I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2021	Posted - 2014.06.18 17:53:00 - [16] - Quote FLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX GRENAAAAAAAAAAAAAADESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Seriously, Flux Grenades, takes down all Golden Boy heavies a few pegs, and makes Caldari heavies a non-factor... Basic grenades do 1200 shield damage... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3627	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:28:00 - [17] - Quote Long Evity wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Of course it was needed, there was no increase with tiers like with all other suits. And it was only the Basic Heavy. I've been using the Templar Heavy suit as my pub suit - and it's incredibly strong, able to stand up to proto, and I can still mostly put proto everything if I leave the nade out. What exactly is balance for a heavy suit to you compared to other roles? Was it buffed simply to suit a pattern of tiering up like other suits have - or was it not performing? I really doubt it was due to performance. Templar suits are Standard, not Basic. Good old interchangeable wording. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Taylor Badasz Proficiency V. 104	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:33:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I will be toning down the flux grenades due to Caldari heavies being easy to kill without their shields Lazer focused...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10786	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:36:00 - [19] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Shield buff - you should all now be dual tanking armor and shield. Enjoy being OP. o/ and lol @ upgrading standard heavy suit pg/cpu - that was seriously not needed. Dual Tanking is a sin Sota. Come back when you know how to Amarr. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon


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