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LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 203	Posted - 2014.06.19 14:38:00 - [1] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: QQ Nyain San. Dont worry they will find another way to compensate. Roman837 wrote: I still think this passive isk change is a horrible idea. This WILL hurt smaller/newer corps. Dramatically. Before..they knew that if they fought somone and won..they could make SOME money back and be able to launch clones again to try to gain MORE land to fund their players. Now...they are targets. They are prey. Large corps with already stable teams and a wallet, will hit them to fund their players. Yeah your concern for smaller corps is really genuine. Its not like you helped DNS smash many of them out of PC. Infact, I can recall in a thread a few weeks back, you said that you had a few billion stashed away as your "retirement nest egg". Sounds to me like you and your corp were in fact one of the biggest benefactors of this free ISK subsidy. Now that the Obamacare is being turned off, suddenly its all about protecting smaller corps? Lets be honest, its about protecting you and your own interests. Its alright to protect yourself and your own interests, but just be honest about it. Just say that not getting free ISK is going to strain your finances as you wont be able to pay your players on the level you were paying them before. Nothing Certain wrote: What was keeping corps out was that all the districts were owned by a few corporations, able to field their A-team whenever needed, exceedingly rich and motivated to keep others out. What has changed is the last part. You now have no incentive to keep others out or hold onto more than a few districts. The strong will still prey on the weak but the weak will still be able to find a place to play and to look for the even weaker. What should happen is that the members of the larger corps will find that their is no advantage to being in a bigger corp if they don't get to participate, there will either be a lot more teams in one corp or the corps will fragment. ^ Finally someone with a vision that extends past their own nose. People had incentive to fight. Once. After that there was incentive to not fight and to do everything possible to maintain control of the district for ISK welfare checks. Even if thta meant making big alliance and shutting down the entire mode so people could passively collect. Now the people who want fights will find them. The ones looking for a welfare check though, are out of luck. If people are looking for someone to blame, why not point the finger at the people who grabbed a bunch of districts, put things on unreasonable timers, and then used that passive ISK to run Ion Cannon Madrugars in pubs 24/7. Which lead to enough outrage from pub players that CCP had its hand forced into terminating passive ISK. Why not blame those who made it into a problem that needed fixing?
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 204	Posted - 2014.06.19 15:55:00 - [2] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: The timer is set to where we live not where you live.. Get over it. I've got over 1b isk from using BPO's, you know nothing about us. If I want to use something that costs 600k I have every right to. Though I run proto galente and caldari assault. Mr Machine Guns wrote: The majority of the district NS took were timers that were unfair to them but you never heard our Japanese players complain about it I know nothing about you? I didn't even mention NS in my post. I merely pointed out that some people created a problem that spilled over into the generally community and forced CCPs hand into making changes. Its not my fault you saw yourselves in my description of the problem. You can justify whatever you did all you want and discuss your "rights" as much as you like. Wont change whats already happened. What i was stating was not opinion it was just fact. If things hadn't of gone down the way they did CCP wouldn't have to fix a created problem. Im just saying dont blame CCP for trying to clean up a mess. Blame the folks who made a mess in the first place. But if it makes you feel better, im sure NS are not exclusively to blame.
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 204	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:21:00 - [3] - Quote AToS SaGa III wrote: Wait, wait, wait... Don't blame CCP for having abusable mechanics? I smell a fanboy. Its very simple. There was a freedom, people used it in a way that was detrimental to the community at large, so that freedom was removed. Maybe next time cherish the freedom instead of exploiting it and you wont lose it. Its not about being a CCP fanboy. Its just the way life works.

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