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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:40:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:Then by that logic is it fair to say Jihad Jeeps are a broken tactic.....which they are. They are, but they are also a solution to the broken relationship between tanks and AV. And tanks can blow them up pretty quickly if they are aware of them. Even if a scout in the open knows the heavy/lav is coming, and I have been there, there are no counters. Period.
step 1: put a cheap nitro, or a cheap hardener on the fit.
step 2: Put RE's inside of the HAV
step 3: swap out the fit with the RE's on it.
Now the fit costs like 16k, and the HAV can't kill you in time.
I call bullshit.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Then by that logic is it fair to say Jihad Jeeps are a broken tactic.....which they are. I don't think they're quite as broken because they require a variety of things such as committing suicide and some significant preparation time, though.
Well I don't think murder taxis are quite as broken as it's not hard to kill people that hops out of a vehicle. You see the vehicle coming, you can just get ready to take the person out as soon as he/she hops out. Also, While the person is fighting you, a HAV can easily **** up the LAV while is stopped, and then kill the heavy if you die.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:49:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:Then by that logic is it fair to say Jihad Jeeps are a broken tactic.....which they are. They are, but they are also a solution to the broken relationship between tanks and AV. And tanks can blow them up pretty quickly if they are aware of them. Even if a scout in the open knows the heavy/lav is coming, and I have been there, there are no counters. Period. Oh don't I know how broken the Av vs HAV situation is. I'll be the first to admit that. But one broken relationship should not require another broken relationship to counter. Resolving that initial relationship is what should be of primary concern. HAV power should be broken down in SP sink skills, and AV should have a slight buff. At low SP investment AV regardless of tier would destroy easily MLT and poorly skilled HAV. At moderate investments like mine, it would be more difficult requiring higher tier AV, and at 25+ Million in HAV we get current tank efficiencies. Very difficult to destroy without the correct applicationof force or and OB...(because really all OB should blow up tanks....except Siege Mode Maruaders...yes I do want those).
It was fun sitting under OB's before................ 
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
Really? Heavies don't need to get within 10 m to kill a 200 ehpish scout, which is what I run, to kill me in a fraction of a second. Even if I am able to shoot back, what light weapon exists that can counter the 5x ehp difference between suits?
And now that the cloak duration has decreased, a scout like me that likes to traverse lots of ground to get behind enemy lines and hack CRUs and objectives, especially when the team is on the ropes, runs out of cloak quickly, and is an easy target for a lazy heavy that wants an easy cheap kill. Unless the person is also stupid enough to pull up immediately next to me, give me time to play ring around the LAV while allowing me to place an RE on the driver side, THEN take off before he kills me, I have NO COUNTER!
True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:
But one broken relationship should not require another broken relationship to counter. Resolving that initial relationship is what should be of primary concern.
I agree. However, if there are two broken mechanics that balance one another, you can't simply remove one and not the other as well without creating even greater imbalance. I see your point but we shouldn't accept that one broken relationship should exist let alone two, and consider the second any more or less fair than the first.
My logic behind making that post.
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