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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:13:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Bullshit. Oh my god you skillless scrub douchebags aren't going to stop QQing until you get the HMG nerfed aren't you...
If an HMG is killing you outside its range, YOU ARE OUT IN THE OPEN AND NEED TO FIND COVER. There is NO reason why you shouldn't be killed if you can't play a FPS well enough to find COVER.
This is seriously pissing me off... Obviously a hmg abuser,
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:16:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Schecter 666 wrote:of course i want the ******* thing nerfed it's a death machine, it's TTK is too low. It's not the fact that he killed me in the way he did, I guess I didn't make myself clear, my point is that you can almost take out a heavy but there will ALWAYS be another one round the corner to take you down.
it's like fighting a losing battle at this point. take down one guy with 1500hp there will be another guy around the corner with 1500hp. No god damnit. You are DOING IT WRONG. It doesn't matter what weapon you're using in a medium/light suit unless its a shotty. ENGAGE AT RANGE, preferably from high ground. Or else you are QQing about something that's YOUR fault, not the game's. Look. This is what heavies exchange for their high HP and DPS:
- Scan profile
- Passive scans
- Movement speed
- Large hitbox
- Effectiveness at medium range
You aren't even exploiting ANY of those weaknesses, then people like you come on the forum and QQ about it, and CCP is so stupid they're actually going to listen to a bunch of scrubs whine about heavies. Stopped reading after engage at range It's impossible Every heavy is inside, most maps are foty spam, most important areas are heavy spammed and there is 0 way to fight back unless you bring 3 people. But then they have butt buddies with them.
Oh and most heavies don't have less than 1k hp
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:20:00 -
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lunatis orrak wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Schecter 666 wrote:of course i want the ******* thing nerfed it's a death machine, it's TTK is too low. It's not the fact that he killed me in the way he did, I guess I didn't make myself clear, my point is that you can almost take out a heavy but there will ALWAYS be another one round the corner to take you down.
it's like fighting a losing battle at this point. take down one guy with 1500hp there will be another guy around the corner with 1500hp. No god damnit. You are DOING IT WRONG. It doesn't matter what weapon you're using in a medium/light suit unless its a shotty. ENGAGE AT RANGE, preferably from high ground. Or else you are QQing about something that's YOUR fault, not the game's. Look. This is what heavies exchange for their high HP and DPS:
- Scan profile
- Passive scans
- Movement speed
- Large hitbox
- Effectiveness at medium range
You aren't even exploiting ANY of those weaknesses, then people like you come on the forum and QQ about it, and CCP is so stupid they're actually going to listen to a bunch of scrubs whine about heavies. Do you not know any heavys to counter them? Stopped reading after engage at range It's impossible Every heavy is inside, most maos are foty spam, most important areas are heavy spammed and there is 0 way to fight back unless you bring 3 people. But then they have butt buddies with them. Yup hmg is officially op. We need heavies to kill heavies, tank debate all over again.
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:23:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:This post might deem offensive to some, but its really not. Just a no holds barred honest assesement. The whole discussion requires some common sense.
First of all, you can't really fix matchmaking with its pool of players. I don't know what you're expecting to change with that, really. You have people who squad up for pubs and the majority does not. What is quite interesting is that the pool of players can't fix themselves. Do you know how many squads be open with 5 empty slots and dumbberries continue to play solo? Okay, you want to play solo. But the benefits of squad play outweighs so much. No wonder you're broke, complaining about protostomping and such. Not saying you're doing that, per se. But if people actually played with each other as in cooperatively, matchmaking would be better. This is just another case of the community wanting CCP to buff the community. Only the community can buff the community.
The HMG "spam" is not destroying the game. In fact, the uncompetitiveness and the poor play of blueberries is damaging the game. Most people complaining about HMGs are the same ones rushing HMG users and expecting some Matrix styled, John Woo affair where they come out the victor. This isn't the movies kid. Use your noggin. If the heavy has killed you, then he is close to you. You have ample time from a considerable distance from the heavy to readjust your strategy and reposition.
Also its funny that you're requesting the damage of 50 caliber machine gun's damage to be toned down. Maybe you weren't here for 1.7 and before, but heavies were a joke and not respected. Now they have the capable means. Respect your heavy and stop your John Woo antics.
Weapon balance is stupid. There is no even keel in weapon balance.
Killing at range isn't possible, mist are inside and impossible to kill if you don't bring friends,as if you try, well you know. Most maps are cqc areas so heavies get spammed to no avail without a valid counter, bring a heavy doesn't count. I stopped playing dust, nothing but heavies most of the time, can't kill from range, unless I ambush with shotgun.
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:26:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Echo 1991 wrote: I have seen a speed heavy in pc get 28 kills so dont tell me it doesnt work. Also please explain how the shotgun needs a nerf when it has less dps and has an optimal of about 15m. I dont see a reason to nerf it.
It doesn't. By nerfing the HMG it will make engagements with shotgun scouts unfair to the heavy. As it is now, we barely have enough time to react, and if they are using proto we WILL die even if we turn around with our "OP turning speed." The shotgun is primarily a heavy killer. So, shotguns are directly proportionate to HMGs. Distance = Rate * Time; E=MCsquared; Shotgun/range = HMG/range I agree the shotgun MAY need a tweak, but the hmg is too op.
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:29:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Bullshit. Oh my god you skillless scrub douchebags aren't going to stop QQing until you get the HMG nerfed aren't you...
If an HMG is killing you outside its range, YOU ARE OUT IN THE OPEN AND NEED TO FIND COVER. There is NO reason why you shouldn't be killed if you can't play a FPS well enough to find COVER.
This is seriously pissing me off... Uhm, I'm a little confused by this. If I'm outside a heavies range shouldn't that be the time I should be engaging them right? If a heavies is killing me outside of his range, even in an open field, where should I engage them? Doesn't this mean something is wrong? And you can't kill them reliability anywhere else because they own cqc.
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:45:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Killing at range isn't possible, mist are inside and impossible to kill if you don't bring friends,as if you try, well you know. Most maps are cqc areas so heavies get spammed to no avail without a valid counter, bring a heavy doesn't count. I stopped playing dust, nothing but heavies most of the time, can't kill from range, unless I ambush with shotgun. Again, "QQ, I can't kill heavies in the ONLY KIND OF MAP THEY'RE GOOD IN, whereas I'm good in EVERY MAP so I think I'll cry about it." That's why you use teamwork to get a person or two in your squad to flush them out of cover, while you suppress them from higher ground or from across the city. DR only the hmg needs a nerf, by rpm, not the heavy suit.
Tbh I quit dust because I can't play it But because I only have skrub level 1.
Choo Choo
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