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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.06.16 19:54:00 -
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Rizlax Yazzax wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Quote: i can often gain over 1000 wp before the system makes me get a kill. and its not like geting 1 kill is hard to resume the insane wp feed that logi gear gives you... What do you mean you need to get a kill? (sorry for the newb question) After you reach the support WP cap (reps/supply/spawns) if you kill someone it resets so you can carry on getting insane WP. At least that's how I've come to understand it. I main as a Logi and only just learned this today
Actually not how it works at all.
The WP limit has 2 caps, 1 being a per minute limit and 1 being an overall cap that grows as the match goes on. Both of these caps have to be hit for your WP to be stopped so all you are seeing is your time away from support allowing the overall match limit to get far enough away from you that you do not catch up to it again.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.06.16 20:08:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i run my amar suits as a trueblood amar so yes it it battle oriented i guess what i was trying to figure out with this thread is..does the logi limiting measures limit the amar logi equally to the other logi's. as i say in this thread i dont feel impacted by the limiting measures. do you?
deezy dabest wrote: The WP limit has 2 caps, 1 being a per minute limit and 1 being an overall cap that grows as the match goes on. Both of these caps have to be hit for your WP to be stopped so all you are seeing is your time away from support allowing the overall match limit to get far enough away from you that you do not catch up to it again.
The cap is not meant to be limiting to any legitimate playstyle. It is only there to stop exploitive point farming.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.06.16 20:22:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: i run my amar suits as a trueblood amar so yes it it battle oriented i guess what i was trying to figure out with this thread is..does the logi limiting measures limit the amar logi equally to the other logi's. as i say in this thread i dont feel impacted by the limiting measures. do you?
deezy dabest wrote: The WP limit has 2 caps, 1 being a per minute limit and 1 being an overall cap that grows as the match goes on. Both of these caps have to be hit for your WP to be stopped so all you are seeing is your time away from support allowing the overall match limit to get far enough away from you that you do not catch up to it again.
The cap is not meant to be limiting to any legitimate playstyle. It is only there to stop exploitive point farming. hmm well i guess im justa great logi then and its not op..ima be trying to break 10k wp again. do you know the specific numbers on these logi caps? im really curious because i seem to have been avoiding them entirely just through my normal logi playstyle and yeah sometimes i drop logi altogether mid battle and call a tank or heavy and go ona small killing spree before i pull logi back out again as well
When the caps were first created the only numbers they would give were the 400 per minute cap (which I believe they later bumped to 450). They never gave out the pace at which the overall cap grew as it would have made it too easy for the people exploiting to simply stay under that cap.
I could not find it but the thread all of this was discussed was a thread reporting broken WP numbers as a bug when the system was first introduced a while back. I will keep looking for it and attempt to bump it just to see if maybe we can get updated values and possibly see if they should be tweaked back down just a little.
Also as far as I know these caps apply to all players but the only people that have a chance of hitting it legitimately are tankers, logis, and squad leaders.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.06.16 20:29:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i think its because of how active i am with teamfiring..it has to be 450 per minute no fuckin way i bet ive broken 1500 ina minute i know i have
Remember for a reduction to happen BOTH caps have to be reached. You could easily still do 1000-1500 in a minute without catching up to the match limit if it were more than a few minutes after the start of the match.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.06.17 06:27:00 -
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Yeah I run an amarr logi with a pile of active links and then an amarr with a rep tool and assault scrambler to really milk the points and I rarely run into the cap myself.
The thing to remember is the cap system is not there to nerf logis, it is there to stop exploits. At the time they were setting the caps they were determining it based off the top point players in the game and probably changed the caps based on those same criteria as we moved on, so I would not worry much on that. Just go get your points and make your money while half the people wonder how you even got paid that much.
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