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Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1539	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:00:00 - [1] - Quote i am curious how are the other racial logi's? i feel like my amar logi is broken..i can gain 5 k wp with great ease...i could afk and gain 2 k wp. i think the logi wp cap should be lowered. i can often gain over 1000 wp before the system makes me get a kill. and its not like geting 1 kill is hard to resume the insane wp feed that logi gear gives you...and as far as logis being weak..i dont really feel that mine is. how are the other in battle? this is my rig AMAR ak.o 3 dmg mods 2 light weapon 1 sidearm 2 basic plates 2 complex reppers flux's gek ar syndicate smg lai dai repper tool kin12 injector flux proto links. i generally use this suit as a team bombardment suit ill lay uplinks on point give cover fire with my dmg modded weapons and provide repps and revives to those who spawn. ive been running this suit relentlessly on gal fortress and i run with 2-3 people in my squad 1-2 heavies.. ive had my heavies kill over 50 people apiece and i still got over twice they're wp way more isk than them.. and its not like your die alot asa logi..i feel like some major balancing factor has been removed with my amar logi how are the other logi's doing? my average logi kdr has gone from 3.5 to 4.0 my average wp without trying is now 2 k wp ive broken 7 k wp 6 times in 2 days i think maybe the logi wp cap system needs to be looked at. my adv logi has broken 5 k 4 times in 2 days amar logi adv exile ar syndicate smg 3 dmg mods 2 light 1 sidearm flux 2 plates 1 complex repper core repper tool stnd injector adv flux 3 sec spawns and im still breaking 5 k wp...wth ccp nerf my logi please
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1539	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:06:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: As a Matari Logistics I manage to reach about 4-6k WP if there are average or bad heavies in my squad. Good heavies unfortunately don't get damaged as often, resulting in less HP to rep. i ahave my heavies take dmg on purpose they know ive got they're back + if i tell a heavy to take that risk and lose him the suit ill buy him another how much death r u accruing? i mean it used to be that 7 k wp and higher payout was something u needed because logis died so much..but i ran 22/0 yesterday with my adv logi and got 7 k wp and like 600k isk thats insane
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:18:00 - [3] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: this is my rig AMAR ak.o 3 dmg mods 2 light weapon 1 sidearm I hope that is a typo or I have missed something here when did the Amarr logi get 2 lights, anyway back to seriousness it is incredibly easy to get stupidly high amounts of WP as a logi without even firing your gun speaking as a logi I think we do need WP reducing but the problem is if say all WP for equipment is cut 50% it hurts us but we still get 3-4 pieces everyone else gets hurt just as much. um 2 light weapon dmg mods 1 sidearm dmg mod and they already have wp limiting measure on logis i just think they should be lower..im not exactly sure at what point in w gain u have to stop and get 1 kill to continue your wp feed..but if you do nothing but logi eventually you will have to stop and get a kill or even just make contact with an enemy but its not often
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:19:00 - [4] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Quote: i can often gain over 1000 wp before the system makes me get a kill. and its not like geting 1 kill is hard to resume the insane wp feed that logi gear gives you... What do you mean you need to get a kill? (sorry for the newb question) After you reach the support WP cap (reps/supply/spawns) if you kill someone it resets so you can carry on getting insane WP. At least that's how I've come to understand it. I main as a Logi and only just learned this today yup thats how it works note u can also just engage you dont have to get a kill an assist will do omg its so hard to put 1 round into a guy getting tore up by your heavies.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:01:00 - [5] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: this is my rig AMAR ak.o 3 dmg mods 2 light weapon 1 sidearm I hope that is a typo or I have missed something here when did the Amarr logi get 2 lights, anyway back to seriousness it is incredibly easy to get stupidly high amounts of WP as a logi without even firing your gun speaking as a logi I think we do need WP reducing but the problem is if say all WP for equipment is cut 50% it hurts us but we still get 3-4 pieces everyone else gets hurt just as much. um 2 light weapon dmg mods 1 sidearm dmg mod and they already have wp limiting measure on logis i just think they should be lower..im not exactly sure at what point in w gain u have to stop and get 1 kill to continue your wp feed..but if you do nothing but logi eventually you will have to stop and get a kill or even just make contact with an enemy but its not often Not often?. Wtf kind of Logis are you talking about mate?. You are running a logi that is clearly combat oriented as well. Not everyone runs that setup. i run my amar suits as a trueblood amar so yes it it battle oriented i guess what i was trying to figure out with this thread is..does the logi limiting measures limit the amar logi equally to the other logi's. as i say in this thread i dont feel impacted by the limiting measures. do you?
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:14:00 - [6] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: i run my amar suits as a trueblood amar so yes it it battle oriented i guess what i was trying to figure out with this thread is..does the logi limiting measures limit the amar logi equally to the other logi's. as i say in this thread i dont feel impacted by the limiting measures. do you? deezy dabest wrote: The WP limit has 2 caps, 1 being a per minute limit and 1 being an overall cap that grows as the match goes on. Both of these caps have to be hit for your WP to be stopped so all you are seeing is your time away from support allowing the overall match limit to get far enough away from you that you do not catch up to it again. The cap is not meant to be limiting to any legitimate playstyle. It is only there to stop exploitive point farming. hmm well i guess im justa great logi then and its not op..ima be trying to break 10k wp again. do you know the specific numbers on these logi caps? im really curious because i seem to have been avoiding them entirely just through my normal logi playstyle and yeah sometimes i drop logi altogether mid battle and call a tank or heavy and go ona small killing spree before i pull logi back out again as well
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:23:00 - [7] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: This again? If they would just buff assaults, then maybe assault players would get just as many by insta ganking everyone. tbh if they fixed assault there would be no reason to nerf heavies it very obvious
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:25:00 - [8] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: i run my amar suits as a trueblood amar so yes it it battle oriented i guess what i was trying to figure out with this thread is..does the logi limiting measures limit the amar logi equally to the other logi's. as i say in this thread i dont feel impacted by the limiting measures. do you? deezy dabest wrote: The WP limit has 2 caps, 1 being a per minute limit and 1 being an overall cap that grows as the match goes on. Both of these caps have to be hit for your WP to be stopped so all you are seeing is your time away from support allowing the overall match limit to get far enough away from you that you do not catch up to it again. The cap is not meant to be limiting to any legitimate playstyle. It is only there to stop exploitive point farming. hmm well i guess im justa great logi then and its not op..ima be trying to break 10k wp again. do you know the specific numbers on these logi caps? im really curious because i seem to have been avoiding them entirely just through my normal logi playstyle and yeah sometimes i drop logi altogether mid battle and call a tank or heavy and go ona small killing spree before i pull logi back out again as well When the caps were first created the only numbers they would give were the 400 per minute cap (which I believe they later bumped to 450). They never gave out the pace at which the overall cap grew as it would have made it too easy for the people exploiting to simply stay under that cap. I could not find it but the thread all of this was discussed was a thread reporting broken WP numbers as a bug when the system was first introduced a while back. I will keep looking for it and attempt to bump it just to see if maybe we can get updated values and possibly see if they should be tweaked back down just a little. Also as far as I know these caps apply to all players but the only people that have a chance of hitting it legitimately are tankers, logis, and squad leaders. i think its because of how active i am with teamfiring..it has to be 450 per minute no fuckin way i bet ive broken 1500 ina minute i know i have so a kill resets it no matter what? like if im repping and i stop repping to kill someone whos ambushing the heavies or even just because they are to pressed..?..i mean even the way i play i have a hard time thinking im getting a kill every 450 wp..do assists reset it? i thought they did is the wp limited to specific types of gear.?
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:33:00 - [9] - Quote like a good match with my amar logi looks like 22/4 5 -4 k wp 500k isk + i dont focus purely on support because there isnt ever enough support needed to not give me time to also shoot my gun the only time my repper stays in my hand overly is ina really bad situation and even then im still pealing off laying link reviving downed nubs ..and shooting i dont rep heavies until they're shields are out..so until my team is hurting im shooting at what they're shooting at or bitchslapping some sneaky scout. do assists reset the wp cap? because if they do that explains it for me...im set to teamfire..i get assists off any kill not made by a unit im repping..if i have a gun in my hand a few of my bullets get into each body my squad puts down
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:34:00 - [10] - Quote oh yeah there is two caps huh thats makes allot of sense the amar logis get allot more wp in the initial rush because our specialty is links

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:35:00 - [11] - Quote the only difference if i was running the minnie logi techmeds is i would be running re's over links :p and would swap to my amar for those
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1549	Posted - 2014.06.18 06:18:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Do you constantly go back to the supply depot to get more uplinks or do you just run around without uplinks after you've dropped them? And who are you squadding with? I never get good heavies that can actually kill things. Last question...do you play domination or skirmish? skirmish mostly i hate dom ima circle around an shoot you in the back kinda girl..so i like having multiple points of contention. i squad with whoever is in anime empire...and old friends...normally vets...im not picky about whos corp i run with...but i do tend to play with multi specced people. i run a pretty standard logi run game...i lay links ina 3 link spam suit..if the opportunity calls for it i swapp to an avd amar logi to lay nanos as well. .(leaves my spawns at 3 secs) then i swap to my battle logi which only carries 1 uplink for application when we move to seize points after the initial burst i only swap to a link layer if the enemy takes down a majority of my initial links which generally takes a good deal of time. once in the battle logi suit i follow my squad team firing everything they encounter unless repping is more needed..i will lay a link at every red objective we approach and i also side track to revive...the only time i swap out of the logi suit is if it absolutely needed. if i have good heavies and squad mates thats never needed. the only thing i get sidetracked doing allot is retaliation to tanks
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1553	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:39:00 - [13] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: If you wanna Rep me, I hope you get all of the WP you can scrounge up. But, so few Logis will go with me to flank. They want to hang out where everybody (including themselves) are getting bottlenecked and destroyed. Logis: If you see me in-game, follow me. We're going to get around that mob, get behind them, and go on a nice and easy 10-20 Kill streak. cowards is what they are i have to coax most heavies to use circle around tactics rhyno. i am always circling around bunkering ina doorway is not a mort thing to do...leaving 2 chicken ass heavies ina doorway running behind and killing everyone camping is me...generally heavies are not willing to do more than sit camp and be healed. you sir are a rarity so is a heavy with strafe game
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1553	Posted - 2014.06.19 19:12:00 - [14] - Quote IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote: I think maybe it is time for CCP to up the WP needed for a warbarge strike. Perhaps 3000 or even 4000 War points? It is very very easy for a logi or two in a squad to farm 3-4k war points alone per match. i agree even upping it to 4 k i would still be able to bring my squad an ob by myself
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1555	Posted - 2014.06.20 02:39:00 - [15] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: i am curious how are the other racial logi's? i feel like my amar logi is broken..i can gain 5 k wp with great ease...i could afk and gain 2 k wp. i think the logi wp cap should be lowered. i can often gain over 1000 wp before the system makes me get a kill. and its not like geting 1 kill is hard to resume the insane wp feed that logi gear gives you...and as far as logis being weak..i dont really feel that mine is. how are the other in battle? this is my rig AMAR ak.o 3 dmg mods 2 light weapon 1 sidearm 2 basic plates 2 complex reppers flux's gek ar syndicate smg lai dai repper tool kin12 injector flux proto links. i generally use this suit as a team bombardment suit ill lay uplinks on point give cover fire with my dmg modded weapons and provide repps and revives to those who spawn. ive been running this suit relentlessly on gal fortress and i run with 2-3 people in my squad 1-2 heavies.. ive had my heavies kill over 50 people apiece and i still got over twice they're wp way more isk than them.. and its not like your die alot asa logi..i feel like some major balancing factor has been removed with my amar logi how are the other logi's doing? my average logi kdr has gone from 3.5 to 4.0 my average wp without trying is now 2 k wp ive broken 7 k wp 6 times in 2 days i think maybe the logi wp cap system needs to be looked at. my adv logi has broken 5 k 4 times in 2 days amar logi adv exile ar syndicate smg 3 dmg mods 2 light 1 sidearm flux 2 plates 1 complex repper core repper tool stnd injector adv flux 3 sec spawns and im still breaking 5 k wp...wth ccp nerf my logi please I think considering the fact that logies are a support class first, getting kills should be low priority. a logi should be rewarded for supporting the team. lets also take into consideration you are using a proto suit... is this strictly PC you are fighting in or pubs? because if its pubs and you always run proto of course you are going to get insane WP and feel powerful, what with going up against newer players and others wearing mostly std to adv gear. try running a std suit and tell me how powerful you feel then. actually i am generally running the adv suit and more often than not i am alone..as i have said in this thread even when teamed whith 15 new berries...i often have more wp if not a higher kdr than anyone on either team. i dont think the amar logi is limited in its wp gain as effectively as the other logis.