DUST Search - Destiny's aplha less buggy then Dust full realease CCP is a joke

Gemini Cuspid wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

Mauren NOON wrote:

You have to realise..bungie spent 3 years with the idea of making this game. And they made the halo series. They are more experienced and had more time...but Eve is a highly successful MMO. Dust was their first attempt at an FPS

And CCP didn't have years to think about DUST? They've had 2 years with the game, and I'm sure the bugs still exist.

While I agree Bungie have more experience with FPS, CCP HAS experience with programming, BUT they outsourced DUST programers to some people who are obviously inexperienced. So their success in EVE really did nothing for DUST because they chose the cheaper way out, and eventually, just decided to give the PS3 user base, the proverbial shaft.

They'll be programming Legion on PC, and I'll be following it and seeing how much bugs and issues they'll continue to have, then I'll be wondering what's their excuse this time around.

And that stopped "No Man's Sky" from being made? Yea it won't have the same degree of breadth or multiplayer as EVE:Valkyrie when it's released but c'mon 4 PEOPLE!!! Whether or not it's CCP's fault for how they did the outsourcing is really on them; no one thinks of this when a game comes out, they only view the results and make the calls then. No one is faulting Bungie for making a good game, they'd only fault and criticize them for making a bad one. If CCP wanted to make Dust a bigger success, they could've tried to poach more talent or delay it's release. While the above options aren't always good, it's still better than what was originally released.


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Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5062	Posted - 2014.06.13 21:00:00 - [1] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Well 500mil and 10 years of development I certainly hope it's not as buggy as dust for bungies sake. I'm looking forward to destiny for my co-op pve but PvP is a joke so I'll still be playing dust. lol 10 years of development "plan"... they didn't take 10 years to produce this alpha, and $500 million isn't the budget for the game alone. That budget includes everything from marketing, to making of DLC / updates. PvP is a joke? Spoken like a true DUST player there. So used to no skilled players to go up against that any game that has the slightest bit of difficulty is "a joke". Got news for you sir, DUST is a joke, and the fact that you called Destiny's PvP, which STRONGLY reflects Halo's PvP a joke, shows that you are in fact, the joke in this whole thing. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5064	Posted - 2014.06.13 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: You have to realise..bungie spent 3 years with the idea of making this game. And they made the halo series. They are more experienced and had more time...but Eve is a highly successful MMO. Dust was their first attempt at an FPS And CCP didn't have years to think about DUST? They've had 2 years with the game, and I'm sure the bugs still exist. While I agree Bungie have more experience with FPS, CCP HAS experience with programming, BUT they outsourced DUST programers to some people who are obviously inexperienced. So their success in EVE really did nothing for DUST because they chose the cheaper way out, and eventually, just decided to give the PS3 user base, the proverbial shaft. They'll be programming Legion on PC, and I'll be following it and seeing how much bugs and issues they'll continue to have, then I'll be wondering what's their excuse this time around. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5065	Posted - 2014.06.13 21:44:00 - [3] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: How do you get the alpha? Right here ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5065	Posted - 2014.06.14 01:50:00 - [4] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: They have spent 10 years working on destiny, the alpha is the alpha version of the game so yeah they did. They also spent 500 million dollars devolping it and I suppose hyping it up, don't see why you are trying to refute that as I said I hope that it was worth the time and money they put into it. Seems like it has been but I haven't played it so can't really comment. Lol, destinies PvP strongly resembles halo PvP and that's not a joke. No the reason I think its a joke is because of the weapons. I would think any games PvP would be a joke with a weapon titled " a campers best friend" I find multiplayer games that reward players for skill rather than who has the shiniest weapon, or who got a lucky loot drop earlier and started leveling their weapon faster, more fun. I'm sure some people are into that but it doesn't sound very fun to me. The pve element is awesome though and I'm looking forward to that with my friends. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-investing-500-million-for-bungie-s-destiny/1100-6419444/ took all but 2 seconds to find this. How about reading sometime so you won't be so ignorant to subjects you decide to comment on? "Destiny is expected to unfold over the period of 10 years" - How you got that Destiny has been in development for 10 years is beyond me. Also from the article "In addition to development costs, the $500 million figure includes marketing, packaging, infrastructure support, royalties, and "other costs," a spokesperson for Activision confirmed. The more you know, and knowing is half the battle Also you talk about players being rewarded for skill... yet you play DUST? Is this a joke....because I don't get it. I played Destiny's MP for about 5-6 hours total so far, and skill is something that is required in that game...to a point. Yes there's cheap kills, but the gun on gun action is legit. Also you talk about "who has the shiniest weapon"...huh? There'll be something called "matchmaking"... I know DUST players have no knowledge of this, but I assure you it exists. Halo has skill based matchmaking, and guess what Destiny will have? You really think they'll put people with Legendary weapons vs noobs? Maybe CCP will do that. But I realize I'm trying to explain something to a DUST fan, so nothing will ever beat DUST noob friendly pvp. All I'll say is enjoy it, while I'll be enjoying going up against skilled opponents for an actual challenge...which to me is fun. People here have fun steamrolling noobs. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5065	Posted - 2014.06.14 01:55:00 - [5] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: You have to realise..bungie spent 3 years with the idea of making this game. And they made the halo series. They are more experienced and had more time...but Eve is a highly successful MMO. Dust was their first attempt at an FPS And CCP didn't have years to think about DUST? They've had 2 years with the game, and I'm sure the bugs still exist. While I agree Bungie have more experience with FPS, CCP HAS experience with programming, BUT they outsourced DUST programers to some people who are obviously inexperienced. So their success in EVE really did nothing for DUST because they chose the cheaper way out, and eventually, just decided to give the PS3 user base, the proverbial shaft. They'll be programming Legion on PC, and I'll be following it and seeing how much bugs and issues they'll continue to have, then I'll be wondering what's their excuse this time around. Oh god why are you still here? Hasn't it been almost a year since you played regularly? (And by recent events we can happily call your signature a blatant lie.) I'm glad you know me, because I sure as hell don't know you Thanks to people like me, heavies are actually worth something now...you're welcome ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5065	Posted - 2014.06.14 02:00:00 - [6] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: You have to realise..bungie spent 3 years with the idea of making this game. And they made the halo series. They are more experienced and had more time...but Eve is a highly successful MMO. Dust was their first attempt at an FPS And CCP didn't have years to think about DUST? They've had 2 years with the game, and I'm sure the bugs still exist. While I agree Bungie have more experience with FPS, CCP HAS experience with programming, BUT they outsourced DUST programers to some people who are obviously inexperienced. So their success in EVE really did nothing for DUST because they chose the cheaper way out, and eventually, just decided to give the PS3 user base, the proverbial shaft. They'll be programming Legion on PC, and I'll be following it and seeing how much bugs and issues they'll continue to have, then I'll be wondering what's their excuse this time around. And that stopped "No Man's Sky" from being made? Yea it won't have the same degree of breadth or multiplayer as EVE:Valkyrie when it's released but c'mon 4 PEOPLE!!! Whether or not it's CCP's fault for how they did the outsourcing is really on them; no one thinks of this when a game comes out, they only view the results and make the calls then. No one is faulting Bungie for making a good game, they'd only fault and criticize them for making a bad one. If CCP wanted to make Dust a bigger success, they could've tried to poach more talent or delay it's release. While the above options aren't always good, it's still better than what was originally released. Better than what was originally released? That's HIGHLY debatable... DUST had more players in closed / open beta, than now...so yeeeaaa... Clearly No man's sky devs are no push overs. They know what they're doing. My point is, DUST was destined to fail because CCP chose the lazy / cheap way out. Instead of using the same brilliant minds that brought EVE, they used people with obviously, little to no PS3 / FPS / Programming skills. They knew what was going on, but did nothing but take people money while planning to go PC. Brilliant move tbh. Fool the console folk into thinking they're getting something original, then tell them "oops...we're going PC guys"... genius. It's moves like this that make CEO's successful. All about profit margins. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5065	Posted - 2014.06.14 02:25:00 - [7] - Quote Egypt Musk wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: It's moves like this that make CEO's successful. All about profit margins. You realize they have been in the red since 2012 right? That being said it is a factor as to why CCP will never see another dime from me no matter how good of a game they can come up with lol All the more reason to push for profits. Cutting the game's development on PS3 is a logical choice. The game has nowhere to go on such a low spec'd system. Only so much they can do, which turns into only so much profit they can make due to lack of content pushing sales. F2P games rely heavily on new content to keep consumers interested. PC is almost limitless. The potential for content means potential for more profit. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5080	Posted - 2014.06.14 20:29:00 - [8] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Well 500mil and 10 years of development I certainly hope it's not as buggy as dust for bungies sake. I'm looking forward to destiny for my co-op pve but PvP is a joke so I'll still be playing dust. lol 10 years of development "plan"... they didn't take 10 years to produce this alpha, and $500 million isn't the budget for the game alone. That budget includes everything from marketing, to making of DLC / updates (over a 10 year period). PvP is a joke? Spoken like a true DUST player there. So used to no skilled players to go up against that any game that has the slightest bit of difficulty is "a joke". Got news for you sir, DUST is a joke, and the fact that you called Destiny's PvP, which STRONGLY reflects Halo's PvP a joke, shows that you are in fact, the joke in this whole thing. Thanks for confirming that its plain sht with eye candy. Halo PvP was easy mode bullsht so thanks for confirming that it also lacks decent multiplayer. Spoken like a true halo nublet. Never played Halo in my life, but I've seen and did enough research to know it's one of the best competitive game franchises in history. So your opinion of it means next to **** for me, just like mine is to you, but thanks for sharing. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5084	Posted - 2014.06.14 22:54:00 - [9] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Fan boys of other games, why do you feel the need to post here about other games? You only show us that you still blatantly care enough otherwise why would you even come back here to the dust forums. GTFO. To make fun and laugh at people still playing DUST I'm not even a Destiny fanboy... not by a long shot! There's been no game in recent times where I've gone batshit fanboy over... but yea, coming here puts a smile to my face. Watching all the little DUST fanboys whiteknight the game and CCP. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5084	Posted - 2014.06.15 00:16:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Kotaku called the destiny boring. Well if we're going by what the press says...wonder what they saying about DUST ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5085	Posted - 2014.06.15 01:56:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Kotaku called the destiny boring. Well if we're going by what the press says...wonder what they saying about DUST Kotaku said Dust 514 fell short of its goals but was one of the more creative endeavours in the market breaking away from the getting old quick cash cows of COD and WoW clones. Also people are already calling Destiny a borderlands clone which is rather disheartening as those games without other people typically get boring very fast. Well Kotaku is 1 outlet. Look at what other people are saying, or look at the amount of awards it got at E3... did DUST EVER win anything? This is just an Alpha btw... let's see what Kotaku says about it after launch. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5087	Posted - 2014.06.15 03:34:00 - [12] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Destiny is just plain bad lance, what exactly do you fine fun about this carbon copy game? It's the E3 demo, so it's Alpha in terms of content... I won't say it's Alpha technically, but Bungie can call it what they want and they'll be right lol Destiny's PvP is the best thing on console to come this year, and I'm not seeing anything coming soon. CoD? BF Hardline? Legion? PS2? There's nothing coming that beats Destiny's competitive "feel" to it. 6v6, medium health, private servers coming at launch (so I heard at least), and a developer that's actually worth a crap. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5087	Posted - 2014.06.15 04:37:00 - [13] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Just tired Destiny and so far a big 'Meh' from me. Nothing at all ground breaking and I've this sort of game play before in other games... just... MEH. I'll hope Beta has something more or else this will be the biggest, over-hyped carbon copy of a game I've ever seen. I'm not trying to defend Destiny...but what FPS (successful) game isn't a "carbon copy" of another? Look at BF Hardline for example...it's BF4 reskined...BF in general is a big rehash and probably taking steps backward. CoD? lol...same engine for over a decade. You think DUST is ground breaking? If you do... ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5089	Posted - 2014.06.15 21:56:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: Just tired Destiny and so far a big 'Meh' from me. Nothing at all ground breaking and I've this sort of game play before in other games... just... MEH. I'll hope Beta has something more or else this will be the biggest, over-hyped carbon copy of a game I've ever seen. I'm not trying to defend Destiny...but what FPS (successful) game isn't a "carbon copy" of another? Look at BF Hardline for example...it's BF4 reskined...BF in general is a big rehash and probably taking steps backward. CoD? lol...same engine for over a decade. You think DUST gameplay or otherwise is ground breaking? If you do... I am still waiting for the day for when you can ask your buddies in world of warplanes to harass some tanks on the ground in your world of tanks game? Or maybe bring your AA tank and shoot any would be heros of the match down. I honestly don't know what you're on about mate... Are you talking about War Thunder? Are you trying to point out the EVE / DUST connection? If so lol... that's just barely a concept atm as all people can do is call in a orb strike... ground breaking? DUST ideas are ground breaking, but that's about it. Everything else screams mediocre at best. I'm no fanboy of any game, as I'll bash a game for any short comings it'll have, but man people in here defend DUST to the death, even trying to say it's ground breaking and innovative. I wasn't aware that ideas / concepts = a finished product. If so Star Citizen is the best game ever in history of mankind. In reality SC atm is just a concept, like DUST, except it's actually going places. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5089	Posted - 2014.06.15 21:57:00 - [15] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: One Eyed King wrote: IGN made Destiny sound very interesting. As if you can group up with friends or strangers and venture out, or explore on your own. I am still very excited. IGN makes everything sound interesting before it is released. And as long as they are properly bribed, they'll endorse your terrible product afterwards too. <---- former IGN. Moral of the story is, don't trust any media outlet because at the end of the day, they'll have their opinions, while yours might be completely different. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"