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Crimson ShieId wrote:

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's.

Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen.

What, you can't do five or six presses per second?

That's all it takes, you realise? After all, it does fire three bullets per press.

Not while trying to aim, no, I don't believe so. Then again, I've never actually timed how fast I can mash a button. I had to use a turbo controller in Starfox Adventures just to beat one button mashing challenge. XD

If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.

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Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 314	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:31:00 - [1] - Quote I can safely say that the combat rifle is OP as(insert foul language here) and even after the "nerf" it still out DPS' every weapon but the hmg. I often wonder what combat rifle users think when they kill someone. Do they think they have skill? Do they think think they are "good". These thoughts run theough my mind as my 721 armor turns to butter in under 3 seconds. Anyone want to enlighten me? Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14447	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Confirming I believe I'm the bestest player ever when I instakill someone with a boundless. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1964	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:46:00 - [3] - Quote I don't think it would be so bad if they could do something about the hipfire. That is the kind of weapon that should excel when aiming down the sights, but should be much less accurate with hipfire. The REAL Internet King
taxi bastard Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 120	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:49:00 - [4] - Quote on my alt i have the AR with profficency at 4. i wish i had it on my main instead of the CR skills tbh i think with any burst/click weapon with a high ROF for some it can be alot more of a gun than others. look at the scrambler and the DPS difference between a fast clicker vs a slow for a even greater extension of this. player a can get 3x's the DPS of player b.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 277	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:06:00 - [5] - Quote Learn to feather that trigger finger. Once you get the rhythm the CR does feel awesome. The assault CR is great at cqc but I find it hard to aim down sites at distance, too much recoil/sway. Desperate attempt to get BPOs
Gooseman Manwhore CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 51	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:08:00 - [6] - Quote Everyone is just going to swarm to the next OP weapon no matter what is rebalanced/etc. This is old news to me as my kill count has risen since I started using it, but my death count has stayed the same because everyone else is using it. I also run really squishy suits. I put the sexi in dyslexia
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 160	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:31:00 - [7] - Quote I use it cuz its Minmatar. The OP side of it is simply a bonus. Go ahead and Nerf it, I'll still use it. Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist "Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1462	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:32:00 - [8] - Quote They probably think wow this weapon is op, time to make some isk.
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1462	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:33:00 - [9] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: I use it cuz its Minmatar. The OP side of it is simply a bonus. Go ahead and Nerf it, I'll still use it. I have always thought the same about my rail rifle
Games Haven Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 198	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote The struggle is real. The struggle is real.

Crimson ShieId Psygod9 527	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:38:00 - [11] - Quote Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's. Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
JP Acuna Pendejitos Zero-Day 184	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:43:00 - [12] - Quote I only took it to lvl1 to try it out when it was released, and i refuse to go further seeing it's so OP. Sometimes i fit a STD CR in my experimental scout fitting, when i'm testing new combinations, but i don't like being cheap and it actually bothers me to see so many scouts with CRs and farming people. No offense.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 315	Posted - 2014.06.12 23:02:00 - [13] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: I use it cuz its Minmatar. The OP side of it is simply a bonus. Go ahead and Nerf it, I'll still use it. I have always thought the same about my rail rifle That is why someone should use a weapon. I have prof. 4 is scramblers because they are my favorite weapon Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 315	Posted - 2014.06.12 23:03:00 - [14] - Quote JP Acuna wrote: I only took it to lvl1 to try it out when it was released, and i refuse to go further seeing it's so OP. Sometimes i fit a STD CR in my experimental scout fitting, when i'm testing new combinations, but i don't like being cheap and it actually bothers me to see so many scouts with CRs and farming people. No offense. Same way I feel. Couldn't have said it better myself Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 161	Posted - 2014.06.13 05:33:00 - [15] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: I use it cuz its Minmatar. The OP side of it is simply a bonus. Go ahead and Nerf it, I'll still use it. I have always thought the same about my rail rifle That is why someone should use a weapon. I have prof. 4 is scramblers because they are my favorite weapon Thus roving a fact; use something cuz you like it, feel compelled to use it. **** the stats. A fun gun is a fun gun. No 2 ways about it. Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist "Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 196	Posted - 2014.06.13 05:53:00 - [16] - Quote Even after this supposed "hotfix," i still see scouts going rampant with the ACR. sometimes i think im the last of the true, EWAR, shotgunning scouts left. its pretyy sad. no, im not saying shotgun should be the only weapon that scouts should be able to use, im just saying the amount of Gallente scout armor tankers with 300+ armor and cal scout shield tankers with 300+ shields, and worse yet, the dual tankers on both scouts is getting ridiculous. it wasnt as bad when they had shotguns, because you could easily out-range them. but when the ACR idea got popular, it got alot worse. not ony could you not see them before it was too late, but now its too late much sooner with their increased range. i guess i'll have to go around and teach them why shotgunning scouts have been around before cloaks have. i'll gladly watch them die to my soldiers spawned from the uplinks ive dropped in a sneaky location. i'll even gladly watch them fall when they are point-blank against my shotgun. it'll take a shot or two, but they'll die before they knew what hit them. Every suit Gk.0 <3 Gallente Federation Patriot
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9392	Posted - 2014.06.13 06:48:00 - [17] - Quote I'd put something else on my AV Commando if everyone and their brothers, mothers, and next door neighbors didn't try to jump me with when I'm fighting a tank. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAMD
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3498	Posted - 2014.06.13 08:06:00 - [18] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's. Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen. What, you can't do five or six presses per second? That's all it takes, you realise? After all, it does fire three bullets per press. CCP Rattati Best Dev Sorry, Blowout...
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 532	Posted - 2014.06.13 08:09:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's. Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen. What, you can't do five or six presses per second? That's all it takes, you realise? After all, it does fire three bullets per press. Not while trying to aim, no, I don't believe so. Then again, I've never actually timed how fast I can mash a button. I had to use a turbo controller in Starfox Adventures just to beat one button mashing challenge. XD Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Jin Foxdale Jedi Slime. 191	Posted - 2014.06.13 13:28:00 - [20] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's. Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen. What, you can't do five or six presses per second? That's all it takes, you realise? After all, it does fire three bullets per press. Not while trying to aim, no, I don't believe so. Then again, I've never actually timed how fast I can mash a button. I had to use a turbo controller in Starfox Adventures just to beat one button mashing challenge. XD Crimson Shield, you have won my day. If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.

Cpl Foster USMC The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 963	Posted - 2014.06.13 13:37:00 - [21] - Quote I love me some Six Kin CR, but those Rail Rifles still give me fits....
Yeeeuuuupppp Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 327	Posted - 2014.06.13 14:17:00 - [22] - Quote I dunno about the hmg part in the OP. I beat plenty of fat boys with my RS-90 or BK-42 in a 1v1, it just wasn't a caldari heavy, those things are fking monsters! Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Feel the wrath of my troll
Onesimus Tarsus Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 2095	Posted - 2014.06.13 14:22:00 - [23] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: I use it cuz its Minmatar. The OP side of it is simply a bonus. Go ahead and Nerf it, I'll still use it. I have always thought the same about my rail rifle I bet it's pretty easy to think that about guns that eviscerate everything around them with little or no effort. I'm sorry if my signature no longer matches my earlier posts. K/Dr WP/Dr matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Scheneighnay McBob The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5246	Posted - 2014.06.13 14:34:00 - [24] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Do they think they have skill? Do they think think they are "good". These thoughts run theough my mind as my 721 armor turns to butter in under 3 seconds. Anyone want to enlighten me? I just don't give a **** what I run. I use combat rifles because they're minmatar, and their intended range is where I want to be fighting at. Rail rifle users, on the other hand, have something seriously wrong with them, as I see them firing them at CBR range almost all the time. péñpâ¦pé+pâìpââpâêpü«tÄïµºÿpüïpéÅpüäpüä pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3505	Posted - 2014.06.13 16:53:00 - [25] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Or, the weapon is just good at killing people who mainly rely on armor. Ever tried to kill a shield tanked Caldari scout or assault with a combat rifle? It's not easy. Put on a PR and SR, however, and they melt like butter just the same as armor tanked suits get melted while under fire from CR's and RR's. Granted, I still don't know why the CR's have only a -5% against shields while almost every other weapon has negatives of 10% or more. You have to remember though that anyone without a modded controller isn't going to be able to hit the full damage cap of the CR. That 1200rpm isn't likely to ever happen. What, you can't do five or six presses per second? That's all it takes, you realise? After all, it does fire three bullets per press. Not while trying to aim, no, I don't believe so. Then again, I've never actually timed how fast I can mash a button. I had to use a turbo controller in Starfox Adventures just to beat one button mashing challenge. XD It's pretty straightforward; it's no ScR, after all. I personally can manage a consistent five presses to drain the magazine faster than I can with an ACR. (I can't stand the ACR for some reason. I think the damage per bullet is too low or something; I'm just too used to ScR or hell, CR!) CCP Rattati Best Dev Sorry, Blowout...


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