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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:02:00 -
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Hey,
since at some point CCP is going to be looking at new variants for the SL and PLC I'd like to discuss what a Minmatar-like light AV weapon should look like and how a weapon like that could be implemented as a variant of the Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon.
Design goals:
- Short to medium range (0-60 meters).
- Explosive damage type, preferably.
- Rockets rather than missiles.
- Suitable for peek-and-cover style of combat.
Here's my suggestions:
Assault Swarm Launcher
- 1 "Missile" per shot
- No lock-on
- 400 direct damage per shot
- 8 shots per clip
- 60 rpm
- About the same projectile speed as current Swam Launcher (-> playtest)
- Same splash damage stats as current Swarm Launcher
- Same range of rockets as current Swam Launcher
The weapon delivers 3200 ehp of damage in 8 seconds. This is very close to the damage potential of an Assault Forgegun (~450 DPS for 12 seconds), except that the Assault Swarm Launcher has a much more limited effective range due to the rockets being unguided. I don't mind having the rockets travel really far since their effectiveness is very limited at that range. Someone might use them to counter-snipe though. It may be necessary to introduce a small amount of dispersion to avoid this.
More importantly there should be no usable splash damage on this weapon. Otherwise it'd infringe on the Mass Driver's territory.
Does this sound like a good idea? Do you think a PLC variant would be more fitting? What kind of variant would you like to see as an option for Minmatar AVers? |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:57:00 -
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@Fox Gaden:
Yes, the weapon should behave very much like a over the shoulder Flaylock with the single purpose of AV. That puts it very nicely.
@AV-Mass Driver
I'm not in favor of an AV-Mass Driver because in that case you wouldn't be able to visually discern the anti-infantry variant from the anti-vehicle one. You could make the normal MD a hybrid AV-AI-weapon but then a hybrid weapon shouldn't be as capable at both roles simultaneously, so we'd have to reduce it's anti-infantry capability. I wouldn't like that. But if anyone wants to supply some numbers for discussion, please go ahead.
Also, if there's a Minmatar-like variant of the Swarm Launcher we'd be able to keep the theme that all light AV-weapons are shoulder-mounted. That makes them very easy to identify and is rather intuitive, since all infantry carried anti-vehicle weapons that I (as a militarily uneducated person) know are shoulder-carried. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2014.06.12 20:07:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Why would Winmatar use Caldari tech paint it a different color and use a different missile (which probably wouldn't fit inside of the same mag, nor be able to use the same launching system). It makes little sense. The Gallente have an Amarr-like Tactical AR, why can't the Caldari have a Minmatar-like SL?
The bigger question is: Would it be fun to use? Personally, I think so. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2014.06.13 06:24:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:The Gallente have an Amarr-like Tactical AR, why can't the Caldari have a Minmatar-like SL?
The bigger question is: Would it be fun to use? Personally, I think so. It looks like a PR, not a SCR. Your logic is invalid. Try again. And the ASL looks like a SL. Try again?
Again, I'd much rather like to discuss gameplay than lore. |
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