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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.06.10 13:54:00 -
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the combat rifle needs the full auto variant at standard level, not just adv/proto
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
No Mic and no time for "Squeekers"
Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
504
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:31:00 -
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Or how about no full-auto combat rifles at any level? |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10262
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:52:00 -
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Then I want a burst AR at STD level.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
454
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Then I want a burst AR at STD level.
 Doesn't Burst open up at Op II ? That's still STD . ( Though why you would use a STD burst is a different story .)
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10262
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:05:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Then I want a burst AR at STD level. Doesn't Burst open up at Op II ? That's still STD . ( Though why you would use a STD burst is a different story .)
It opens up at IV
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
455
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:15:00 -
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Huh haven't been paying attention..... must have changed awhile ago because I distinctly remember a standard burst and breach at Op II . Tact was the one that opened at IV .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10266
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:11:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Huh haven't been paying attention..... must have changed awhile ago because I distinctly remember a standard burst and breach at Op II . Tact was the one that opened at IV .
They removed the burst.
The only thing that happens at II is Breach.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3279
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:18:00 -
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I'd like to have a burst scr but whadoya know I dont...
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1747
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Posted - 2014.06.10 22:21:00 -
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They need Assault variants(breach for Galente) at standard, as they give newer players(or racial purists that don't want to prance about outside the objective saying "ah, right, i got a ranged weapon, canmt hack!") a method to do a job.
Assault and racial at basic, 'exotic' variants at Advanced, e.g. burst Ar, Breach Scrambler, Tactical Combat Rifle.
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
2753
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Posted - 2014.06.11 01:43:00 -
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How 'bout this?
AR//
Op 1: STD Assault Variant unlocks
Op 2: STD Breach Variant unlocks
Op 3: ADV Assault and Breach Variants unlock
Op 4: ADV Burst and Tactical Variants unlock
Op 5: PRO Assault, Breach, Burst, and Tactical Variants unlock
(Pretty much what we have now.)
ScR//
Op 1: STD Tactical Variant unlocks
Op 2: STD Breach Variant unlocks
(I would love for the Breach ScR to be a high damage, low range and small capacity tactical. Sorta like the old ScP. Like so.)
Op 3: ADV Tactical and Breach Variants unlock
Op 4: ADV Burst and Assault Variants unlock
(Burst ScR ought to include a charge feature somewhere I think. Other than that, I'm not sure where to go with it, but I'm sure this could be a VERY interesting weapon.)
Op 5: PRO Tactical, Breach, Burst, and Assault Variants unlock
CR//
Op 1: STD Burst Variant unlocks
Op 2: STD Assault Variant unlocks
Op 3: ADV Burst and Assault Variants unlock
Op 4: ADV Breach and Tactical Variants unlock
(The Breach CR ought be a medium capacity, 2-round-burst, high damage, and mid-long ranged weapon with a sizable delay between bursts.)
(The Tactical CR should closely mimic a modern day DMR I think. Small magazine, with high damage munitions, a medium powered scope, and lots of kick. For some reason, I can't help but think of the Survivalist's Rifle from FO:NV.)
Op 5: PRO Burst, Assault, Breach, and Tactical Variants unlock
RR//
Op 1: STD Breach Variant unlocks
Op 2: STD Tactical Variant unlocks
(I personally think the Tactical RR should be similar to the Large Railguns, or Bolt Pistols in function. It would technically be fully automatic, but it would have to charge up before each high powered, long rang shot.)
Op 3: ADV Breach and Tactical Variants unlock
Op 4: ADV Assault and Burst Variants unlock
(I'm really not sure how the Burst RR should function at all. Perhaps we could keep this one simple. Or perhaps the RoF increases with consecutive bursts? Who knows.)
Op 5: PRO Breach, Tactical, Assault, and Burst Variants unlock
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1756
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:37:00 -
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Possibly charge>fire 6 shots(clip of 42) and has to respool? Might even not require to repull trigger?
Breach Scr i see as either: similar to the BrAr, in it's fully auto, high damage high accuracy low clipsize
Or
Charges like a Tac, RoF reduced to like 300/400, and charge damage multiplier increases to like, 6x?
Tac Cr i want to be a miniature field sniper(possibly) having a zoomed Acog, with about 60-70 dmg per shot and 30 clip.
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9329
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:59:00 -
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I agree that all items should have a variant at MLT & STD.
I'll make a spreadsheet containing the variants that don't have a MLT/STD counterpart.
Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical.
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
465
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Posted - 2014.06.11 09:45:00 -
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Burst ScR should fire x number of rounds per time charged. Regular pull fires 2-3, adding rounds until full charge, which fires, I dunno, 15 at max RoF but insta-pops?
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
38
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:44:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Then I want a burst AR at STD level. Doesn't Burst open up at Op II ? That's still STD . ( Though why you would use a STD burst is a different story .)
bene trying burst vs full auto combat rifle and oddly i much prefer burst.. tho i think Fullauto will be better when i reach sharpshooter 4+ and finally get combat rifle 5 and proficiency 4+
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
No Mic and no time for "Squeekers"
Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
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headbust
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
38
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:15:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Gelan Corbaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Then I want a burst AR at STD level. Doesn't Burst open up at Op II ? That's still STD . ( Though why you would use a STD burst is a different story .) bene trying burst vs full auto combat rifle and oddly i much prefer burst.. tho i think Fullauto will be better when i reach sharpshooter 4+ and finally get combat rifle 5 and proficiency 4+
im already there and i still prefer burst
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
38
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:22:00 -
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headbust wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Gelan Corbaine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Then I want a burst AR at STD level. Doesn't Burst open up at Op II ? That's still STD . ( Though why you would use a STD burst is a different story .) bene trying burst vs full auto combat rifle and oddly i much prefer burst.. tho i think Fullauto will be better when i reach sharpshooter 4+ and finally get combat rifle 5 and proficiency 4+ im already there and i still prefer burst
really? Hmm.. i guess burst can effectively cause more lead down field then just full auto and more on target
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
No Mic and no time for "Squeekers"
Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
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