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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2697	Posted - 2014.06.09 15:33:00 - [1] - Quote Calamari Scouts and light frames? Their hit windows are broken. Their strafing speeds are broken. Their resistances to projectile weapons are broken. I say this as one who has been on the receiving end of the Calamari's wrath and one who has dished it out in return. If I can kill heavies in close-quarters fights by simply moving my left analog stick left and right while emptying my ACR and SMG clips, then something is wrong and the suits are most likely broken.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3433	Posted - 2014.06.09 15:37:00 - [2] - Quote I have to point out that most heavies are terribad. (Well, most players in general; it's just more obvious with heavies because they take ages to kill) A strafing target, especially one who strafes as quickly as the untanked CalScout, is a pain to track, especially now without the sloth effect. And unlike MinScout who strafes faster, CalScout usually has more shields (and by extension, more strafing ability) BlowoutForCPM
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 166	Posted - 2014.06.09 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote They don't get away with it against my heavy unless they have a Pro Shotty. And sometimes they still don't. My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2707	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:31:00 - [4] - Quote No one ever wants to admit that their crutches are OP. Calamari lights and scouts are broooookeeennnn.
Meee One BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 830	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Calamari Scouts and light frames? Their hit windows are broken. Their strafing speeds are broken. Their resistances to projectile weapons are broken. I say this as one who has been on the receiving end of the Calamari's wrath and one who has dished it out in return. If I can kill heavies in close-quarters fights by simply moving my left analog stick left and right while emptying my ACR and SMG clips, then something is wrong and the suits are most likely broken. Squid scouts you say? Yes squid wrath is quite frightening,which is why i swim in the shallows.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 372	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:39:00 - [6] - Quote Or just give min scouts their current hotboxes seriously though, I was stalking a BASIC caldari scout with my k5 specialist. He was walking, and i was walking. I aimed my shotgun at him, and the thing read 107% efficacy (or something like that) and he had under 200 shields. I fired, and he was left with 10 shields and 87 armor. I proceeded to pull out my SMG as he jumped out of SG range, and somehow he seemed to take reduced damage, as if i wasn't hitting him with most shots, despite the fact that i was. Its slightly ridiculous that it takes 4 SG shots to down a proto scout with under 400 shields 26-2 ambush with militia minmitar heavy, no relevant skills 9-3 proto minmitar scout Scount OP nurf it to grownd
Artillery Nut Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:43:00 - [7] - Quote To the OP, I believe that you are using the slang term "Calamari" incorrectly. Calamari is the term given to Caldari and Amarr FW forces in EVE Online. Here in DUST 514, the term makes no sense, especially considering that you are obviously talking about the Caldari scout, not the Amarr one. Just saying. TL;DR: There is no Calamari suit, dingus. If a moderator sees this, please change my avatar to what is supposed to be -- Minmatar. Gotta represent properly.
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 176	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:23:00 - [8] - Quote I can confirm that the Gallente Scout is Cthulhu, the omnipotent squid monster. Me: Logibro, is this **** for realz? CCP Logibro: Ya. Also, psychic tandem war elephants. My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
Games Haven Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 181	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:41:00 - [9] - Quote The struggle is real. The struggle is real.
SCATTORSHOT RINNEGATE A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE 60	Posted - 2014.06.11 05:19:00 - [10] - Quote You can't nerf the calamari, is a good food!! Waiting The Sagaris From Ages. CCP: SoonTM

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2723	Posted - 2014.06.11 05:22:00 - [11] - Quote Nevermind... They don't need to be nerfed. Equipping a Gek-38 on an Scout c/1 series is all I need to take care of them. GEKs shred them to pieces... Minmatar weaponry, not so much.
SCATTORSHOT RINNEGATE A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE 60	Posted - 2014.06.11 05:38:00 - [12] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Nevermind... They don't need to be nerfed. Equipping a Gek-38 on an Scout c/1 series is all I need to take care of them. GEKs shred them to pieces... Minmatar weaponry, not so much. its just a number question, as you probably know: the projectile weapons only gets 95% on shields so is normal. Waiting The Sagaris From Ages. CCP: SoonTM
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2723	Posted - 2014.06.11 05:52:00 - [13] - Quote SCATTORSHOT RINNEGATE wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Nevermind... They don't need to be nerfed. Equipping a Gek-38 on an Scout c/1 series is all I need to take care of them. GEKs shred them to pieces... Minmatar weaponry, not so much. its just a number question, as you probably know: the projectile weapons only gets 95% on shields so is normal. Does not explain how I can empty my Six Kin ACR into a scout ck.0 only to end up taking 1/2 of his shields out. Many have also experienced the same thing.
JP Acuna Pendejitos Zero-Day 181	Posted - 2014.06.11 06:00:00 - [14] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Calamari Scouts and light frames? Their hit windows are broken. Their strafing speeds are broken. Their resistances to projectile weapons are broken. I say this as one who has been on the receiving end of the Calamari's wrath and one who has dished it out in return. If I can kill heavies in close-quarters fights by simply moving my left analog stick left and right while emptying my ACR and SMG clips, then something is wrong and the suits are most likely broken. Just imagine that strafein' with keyboard!! it's ridiculous
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 510	Posted - 2014.06.11 06:17:00 - [15] - Quote I wouldn't recommend trying to fight the Caldari with Minmatar weaponry. If you've got a bunch of Cal scouts giving you trouble, just put on an ASR or, as you mentioned, a PR. The difference in killing speed will amaze you. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property 1757	Posted - 2014.06.11 08:10:00 - [16] - Quote Wow. You guys JUST found this out? I knew this from like, week 2 of 1.8: Min scout strafes faster, and can attain(in many cases) identeical OR HIGHER shiel; health Minja with 3 cx shield extenders: 343 shield, fit with 2 shield regs(enhanced) and a Six Kin or Gek. Basic Calscout with Breach Ar, or basic Cr, 2 cx shield extenders, enhanced kincat, enh Precision, twin compact hives 309 HP. Assuming no shield regen is taking place(mid fight) CalLight can prance in front of HMG fire up to Six Kin Burst or dbl dmg mod Boundless. Minmatar dies to Mh-82 or dmg modded Basic. B-but... 43 MORE hp, FASTER strafe!... Nope, caldari wins. Because Caldari=best infantry Edit: they also block Laser weapons occasionaly, along with 95% reduction or so to Locus/remotes. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property 1757	Posted - 2014.06.11 08:15:00 - [17] - Quote Another point: hit calscout with Flux nade, shields go down to 50 or higher. Flux nade. Remote a Calscout, he jumps over it. Snipe one, Mlt deals 120 damage. Base dmg of 209, tac being 173. Frikkin shotgun one, deals 200-250 damage unless headshot. Scrambler pistol will 95% of time shield flare. Blaster fire(tank turret) requires more hits to kill (pre Alpha) than most Sentinels. Orbitals, they tend to survive them, but only in specific cases which may be confused with taking proper cover(hiding behind box and orbi doesn't hit behind it) Only Plasma or Rail can efficiently damage a Caldari Light, and with that: Lol. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2014.06.11 08:15:00 - [18] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Calamari Scouts and light frames? Their hit windows are broken. Their strafing speeds are broken. Their resistances to projectile weapons are broken. I say this as one who has been on the receiving end of the Calamari's wrath and one who has dished it out in return. If I can kill heavies in close-quarters fights by simply moving my left analog stick left and right while emptying my ACR and SMG clips, then something is wrong and the suits are most likely broken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9quv8wmRSM4&app=desktop Jerrmy12 Banned, reason, hotfix alpha thread. No joke, the reason was a devs first post, I was linked to the first post.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2730	Posted - 2014.06.11 08:48:00 - [19] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Wow. You guys JUST found this out? I knew this from like, week 2 of 1.8: Min scout strafes faster, and can attain(in many cases) identeical OR HIGHER shiel; health Minja with 3 cx shield extenders: 343 shield, fit with 2 shield regs(enhanced) and a Six Kin or Gek. Basic Calscout with Breach Ar, or basic Cr, 2 cx shield extenders, enhanced kincat, enh Precision, twin compact hives 309 HP. Assuming no shield regen is taking place(mid fight) CalLight can prance in front of HMG fire up to Six Kin Burst or dbl dmg mod Boundless. Minmatar dies to Mh-82 or dmg modded Basic. B-but... 43 MORE hp, FASTER strafe!... Nope, caldari wins. Because Caldari=best infantry Edit: they also block Laser weapons occasionaly, along with 95% reduction or so to Locus/remotes. Go back to every thread you made or posted in regarding Cal light frames. You'll see that I supported your claims and commented with my own experiences of how jacked they are. I'm just echoing what has been said already because I'm frustrated with them.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 679	Posted - 2014.06.11 08:52:00 - [20] - Quote yeah my hmg seems to struggle with cal scouts way more than anyother type. have to agree with op they do seem somewhat broken.



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