DUST Search - CCP Saberwing is gone!?

Glyd Path wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

Glyd Path wrote:

Interesting. ccp claims that nobody on the dust team was effected by the group back stabbing. Just some useless PR types. Ugh

Their statement was that DUST "development" was not effected. i.e. No programmers or graphics people were laid off. But some of the community team obviously was.

Well, they could lay off everybody but Rattiti and that statement would still be correct wouldn't it? He is the only developer on dust as everyone else, their precious arteests included, are on the not yet approved but still sucking cash project legion.

If this downsizing was the result of investors pushing ccp to do something to show they can control costs they why not just cut legion instead, because it is their current toy. Their only other game with potential will require a $350 controller customer base pc(expensive system, expensive controller). Project legion is going to be a reduced customer base as well: eve pc players that want to do PvE in a pseudo FPS game that uses ancient technology that nobody else in the industry is using (UE3). The subset of gamers is pc(eve(legion)) which is a percentage of the players they have now and part of the investors problem is subscriptions are flat and ccp has to count on current players having multiple accounts. Project legion is going to be tied to the stupid star map and the back stabbing nature of new eden.

As far as I know they have yet to proclaim, or even mumble, the business model for project legion. F2P, subscription with discounts for eve players, standard $60 box price or what exactly. It will be interesting to find out because it will tip their hand for what they expect from the game. If they treat it like dust (F2P) then it will be a disappointment regardless. They have trained their users in all games to give as little as possible to ccp. Google for eve players that play for nothing. Some I know do just that.

If the investor ever figure out what ccp is doing they might demand even more action. Personally, I think it would be better for the investors to write a memo to ccp explaining what ccp is doing. Cause ccp sure as Helen doesn't know. Pirate

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Egonz4 328	Posted - 2014.06.09 02:29:00 - [1] - Quote Is this true? Did he really get fired?.....darn shame self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 758	Posted - 2014.06.09 05:58:00 - [2] - Quote I don't think he was fired but yes he is gone. :( "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masterbait afterwards." - CCP Lockingbro
KGB Sleep Inner.Hell 1082	Posted - 2014.06.09 11:10:00 - [3] - Quote Downsizing Because beer, that's why.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9255	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:33:00 - [4] - Quote Sadly, yes. He was one of my favorites too, and the only DEV I've ever squadded with. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. I've run out of stuff to spec into :( -HAND
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 115	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:43:00 - [5] - Quote Interesting. ccp claims that nobody on the dust team was effected by the group back stabbing. Just some useless PR types. Of course dust only has Rattiti on it so their statement might well be considered truthful, if one wasn't being honest - as is their wont. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3161	Posted - 2014.06.09 14:20:00 - [6] - Quote Whoa WHAT they got rid of saberwing but he was doing an awsome job he moved his whole freaking life, this better be BS what about logibro?? "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2686	Posted - 2014.06.09 15:13:00 - [7] - Quote Glyd Path wrote: Interesting. ccp claims that nobody on the dust team was effected by the group back stabbing. Just some useless PR types. Their statement was that DUST "development" was not effected. i.e. No programmers or graphics people were laid off. But some of the community team obviously was. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 580	Posted - 2014.06.09 16:40:00 - [8] - Quote This just confirms what most of us already knew: CCP is a trainwreck. My reaction to Legion
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 117	Posted - 2014.06.10 06:38:00 - [9] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Glyd Path wrote: Interesting. ccp claims that nobody on the dust team was effected by the group back stabbing. Just some useless PR types. Their statement was that DUST "development" was not effected. i.e. No programmers or graphics people were laid off. But some of the community team obviously was. Well, they could lay off everybody but Rattiti and that statement would still be correct wouldn't it? He is the only developer on dust as everyone else, their precious arteests included, are on the not yet approved but still sucking cash project legion. If this downsizing was the result of investors pushing ccp to do something to show they can control costs they why not just cut legion instead, because it is their current toy. Their only other game with potential will require a $350 controller customer base pc(expensive system, expensive controller). Project legion is going to be a reduced customer base as well: eve pc players that want to do PvE in a pseudo FPS game that uses ancient technology that nobody else in the industry is using (UE3). The subset of gamers is pc(eve(legion)) which is a percentage of the players they have now and part of the investors problem is subscriptions are flat and ccp has to count on current players having multiple accounts. Project legion is going to be tied to the stupid star map and the back stabbing nature of new eden. As far as I know they have yet to proclaim, or even mumble, the business model for project legion. F2P, subscription with discounts for eve players, standard $60 box price or what exactly. It will be interesting to find out because it will tip their hand for what they expect from the game. If they treat it like dust (F2P) then it will be a disappointment regardless. They have trained their users in all games to give as little as possible to ccp. Google for eve players that play for nothing. Some I know do just that. If the investor ever figure out what ccp is doing they might demand even more action. Personally, I think it would be better for the investors to write a memo to ccp explaining what ccp is doing. Cause ccp sure as Helen doesn't know. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15413	Posted - 2014.06.10 08:40:00 - [10] - Quote Glyd Path wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Glyd Path wrote: Interesting. ccp claims that nobody on the dust team was effected by the group back stabbing. Just some useless PR types. Their statement was that DUST "development" was not effected. i.e. No programmers or graphics people were laid off. But some of the community team obviously was. Well, they could lay off everybody but Rattiti and that statement would still be correct wouldn't it? He is the only developer on dust as everyone else, their precious arteests included, are on the not yet approved but still sucking cash project legion. If this downsizing was the result of investors pushing ccp to do something to show they can control costs they why not just cut legion instead, because it is their current toy. Their only other game with potential will require a $350 controller customer base pc(expensive system, expensive controller). Project legion is going to be a reduced customer base as well: eve pc players that want to do PvE in a pseudo FPS game that uses ancient technology that nobody else in the industry is using (UE3). The subset of gamers is pc(eve(legion)) which is a percentage of the players they have now and part of the investors problem is subscriptions are flat and ccp has to count on current players having multiple accounts. Project legion is going to be tied to the stupid star map and the back stabbing nature of new eden. As far as I know they have yet to proclaim, or even mumble, the business model for project legion. F2P, subscription with discounts for eve players, standard $60 box price or what exactly. It will be interesting to find out because it will tip their hand for what they expect from the game. If they treat it like dust (F2P) then it will be a disappointment regardless. They have trained their users in all games to give as little as possible to ccp. Google for eve players that play for nothing. Some I know do just that. If the investor ever figure out what ccp is doing they might demand even more action. Personally, I think it would be better for the investors to write a memo to ccp explaining what ccp is doing. Cause ccp sure as Helen doesn't know. 1 CCP is privately owned and the folks who do own it are more involved than most people think. 2. Legion is a project status the money, people, and time set aside for them is to get them to be greenlit or not. We're not at that point yet. When it happens we will all find out. 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games is more commonly used than one things vs oh say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_using_CryEngine or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frostbite_(game_engine) 4. Rattati has a team of folks working with him. There is also the customer support team and world services support team (severs) that still have to deal with dust 514 on a day to day basis. CCP Rouge is also still responsible for the game as well; and there is a significant portion of the community team that is still purely Dust 514 side; just they're they analytics and loopback types. 5. I highly doubt that cancelling legion is going to fix dust 514. If anything its going to close dust 514 side of the shanghai office (eve serenity runs out of the same building so) CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked

low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1969	Posted - 2014.06.10 14:16:00 - [11] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Is this true? Did he really get fired?.....darn shame ccp sabrewing was only hired to take the heat for fanfest. his job is over, he's been fired. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.06.10 14:41:00 - [12] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Whoa WHAT they got rid of saberwing but he was doing an awsome job he moved his whole freaking life, this better be BS what about logibro?? Edit: im going to get a wisky :-( sad times i hope ccp gets a win soon or its closed door on eve 2 :-( logi bro still here i saw a post from him just yeesterday "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."


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