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Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.23 20:32:00 -
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all that assault really needs is an HP buff
and Gallente and Caldari have a nearly useless skill bonus.
the Gallente dispersion bonus will only work with the regular Duvolle AR, but it literally makes them worse at CQC and it will actually make the variants less effective at both ranges
and who really needs to reload a Rail Rifle faster by a marginal degree, on a paper thin squishy suit? |
DEATH THE KlD
Harem. King
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Posted - 2014.06.23 20:35:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Scouts, Heavys, Logis, Tanks, Ads, are all doing there roles out there but sadly the assault suit has no place right now. I'm still curious as to what the tanks role is... tell IWS while your at it, he doesn't seem to think they have one either... as far as assaults go, give them a dmg bonus to light weapon and side arm dmg respective to the suits race, and give them all an extra grenade slot.... fixed! As an assault user I decline the grenade slot. I never use nades they're a waste of CPU and PG. As for DMG I agree, maybe a rof or range increase as well? I don't want them OP but I want them to fit a role. Rof would help them push objectives and range would allow them to defend or push objectives from a distance. |
Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.24 02:36:00 -
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Humble Seeker wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote:Hmmm maybe we can give each suit spec bonus to race weapon like amarr have. I know that lot of people like minmatar ammo bonus so both amarr and minmatar assault bonus could stay. Problems are with Cal & Gal. Caldari - 5% bonus to railgun weapons ROF Gallente - 5% bonus to blaster weapons range We can discuss about those suit bonuses. What do U think about it? That's something that should have been fixed along time ago as well. Gallente and caldari use hybrid weapons interchangeably. Caldari would get a range bonus to blasters and rails because they're both hybrid weapons. Gal would get a rof or damage bonus to blasters and rails because they're both hybrids. This whole cal get rails and gal get blasters in dust rule is completely wrong as far as new Eden goes. Well not really. Until the Caldari of DUST get anti-infantry missle weapons, then it makes more sense that they get a rail gun bonus. In EVE; Caldari - Primary: Missiles, Secondary: Railguns Gallente - Primary: Balsters/Railguns, Secondary: Drones So if the Gallente assault were to receive a bonus to railgun usage ,what would the Caldari assault get? Swarm launcher bonus? Not viable, unless they make them dumbfire again. And I doubt that that endeavor would turn out well.
ive always been an advocate of more missile weapons. personally i think theyre should be a rpg type missile that free fires and an assault swarm launcher with small explosives that only do 40-50 damage and have flight time and velocity and its automatic with a medium sized clip. but ccp was lazy
in eve their secondary is hybrid weapons. none of the ship bonusesmdistinguish between blaster or rail. just hybrid. you can put blasters on a rokh or rails on a megathron and both ships get bonuses to it both weapons.
if i can get damage bonuses or rof bonuses to rail guns in eve i dont see why i cant get something similar on my gallente suit with a hybrid weapon here or vice versa with a caldari suit for extra range or falloff on my shotgun.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.06.24 03:00:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Feldt-Grace wrote:isn't it better to kick out the assault? if he anyway no role has? No I'm a slayer not a logi or heavy or scout. Assaults have their place just everything else outshines them atm. True they don't really have a "role" but they are supposed to be the frontline slayers. Damn right
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.06.24 03:01:00 -
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Assaults need Survivability Bonuses or much better DPS Bonuses. Maybe more Bonuses for running support. Hack Speed Bonus or a bonus to WP earnings. Something like 5% more WP per level.
Just ideas to get some different thoughts spinning...
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 05:46:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Seymour KrelbornX wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Scouts, Heavys, Logis, Tanks, Ads, are all doing there roles out there but sadly the assault suit has no place right now. I'm still curious as to what the tanks role is... tell IWS while your at it, he doesn't seem to think they have one either... as far as assaults go, give them a dmg bonus to light weapon and side arm dmg respective to the suits race, and give them all an extra grenade slot.... fixed! As an assault user I decline the grenade slot. I never use nades they're a waste of CPU and PG. As for DMG I agree, maybe a rof or range increase as well? I don't want them OP but I want them to fit a role. Rof would help them push objectives and range would allow them to defend or push objectives from a distance. if your not carrying core locas grenades then your not running your assault suit right.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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DEATH THE KlD
Harem. King
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Posted - 2014.06.24 05:48:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Seymour KrelbornX wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Scouts, Heavys, Logis, Tanks, Ads, are all doing there roles out there but sadly the assault suit has no place right now. I'm still curious as to what the tanks role is... tell IWS while your at it, he doesn't seem to think they have one either... as far as assaults go, give them a dmg bonus to light weapon and side arm dmg respective to the suits race, and give them all an extra grenade slot.... fixed! As an assault user I decline the grenade slot. I never use nades they're a waste of CPU and PG. As for DMG I agree, maybe a rof or range increase as well? I don't want them OP but I want them to fit a role. Rof would help them push objectives and range would allow them to defend or push objectives from a distance. if your not carrying core locas grenades then your not running your assault suit right. I don't like to spam **** and that's all nades are for is spamming |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:19:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Scouts, Heavys, Logis, Tanks, Ads, are all doing there roles out there but sadly the assault suit has no place right now.
well im glad you finally gave your permission you heard the man get to it ccp.
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Midas Fool
Watchdoge Explosives
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:24:00 -
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Copied from my post about this in another thread:
My Suggestion: Give Assaults 2 racial (keep fitting for class) weapon-based bonuses. Instant buff, two birds.
Amarr: Bonus to Laser Weapon Heat Build-up and also Overheat Cooldown. Caldari: Bonus to Hybrid Weapon (Rail) Reload and also Range Gallente: Bonus to Hybrid Weapon (Blaster) Dispersion and also Rate of Fire Minmatar: Bonus to Projectile Weapon and also Explosive Weapon Magazine Capacity
The only problem I would forsee with this is the Minmatar Assault getting pretty scary. But they kinda need a buff of some kind anyway. More dakka seems appropriate in exchange for lower EHP.
Basically Assaults get 3 bonuses instead of the 2 everyone else has. Very direct, offense related buff.
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Lynn Beck
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:30:00 -
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Commandos are designed to be a ranged suppresion master, while being able to run diverse weapon loadouts: Av And Ai in one package? Area denial AND Dps/primary rifle?
Assault is designed to be the suit that rushes a point, when there's multiple heavies on point, you need an assault to rush in, spam Locuses/fluxes, and blitz the enemy in a blinding fashion.
Sadly, scouts and their shottyguns can do this already.
My proposal: introduce a racial tank bonus to the already existing weapon bonuses, then make the shield regen rates(Cal/Min) higher than the scout's. 60 Min, 50 Cal.
For armor, their bonuses should be sufficient to enforce this: +5% per level to Armor Repair/plate(Gal/Amarr, respectively) and maybe have the Galassault with a higher Armor repair than the Scout(5/s?) while the amarr gets a SIGNIFICANT HP buff in comparison to it's Medium frame, sinilar to how the Amarr Light has 125 shield when maxed cores, 162 armor, while the Scout goes 87/212.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.06.24 09:29:00 -
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Honestly, I've been playing a lot of assaults, and all they really need is an improvement to base stats (mostly health). Currently light frames have about 70% of the hp of medium frames before modules, and medium frames have about 24-33% of the hp of heavies before modules.
Increasing the medium frames hp by about 40% and slightly dropping heavy/sentinel hp so people have to actually *skill into them to get those amazing hp bonuses from slots and resistances) brings medium frames to about 45% of the hp of heavies and light frames to about 50% of the hp of mediums, before modules.
Then there needs to be a slight rework of passive benefits like scanning, shield recharge and delays, and the assaults will be in a fairly good place then,
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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noobsniper the 2nd
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.06.24 14:44:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:I don't know about the rest of you but i get hella scared when i meet one of those Amarr Assaults with them SCR attached... When that combo happens with even an adequate player in the fit, good lord **** gets shred, well atleast my **** gets shredded(Shield tank) Im srry ill try to make it quick for you *charges scrambler* but for real the amarr medium is decent right now still up imo tho
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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.06.24 15:12:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166283&find=unread |
pdiddy anfama
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 15:27:00 -
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Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.***
CCP fix PC your core game mode
Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 16:21:00 -
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pdiddy anfama wrote:Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.*** LOL stop jumping in front of heavys trying to shoot them face to face CCP can't fix that.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.06.24 16:44:00 -
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I really love the assault suits, it's a pitty I can't use them in PC as the Scouts are so much more versatile and stronger.
But, I've noticed that if there is someone with good scans in my squad then I can actually get by using my Minmatar Assault, and it does fairly well so long as I know where the enemy is (i.e., not getting shotgunned in the back).
I think something that would make the Assault suits a world of a better choice is to extremely increase their sensor RANGE**.
I couldn't give two ***** about the precision, and let it be low as hell to keep scouts invisible, but the range is so gimped (even with proto passive skills) that I can barely see (and by barely I mean not at all) a heavy that is less roughly 30m from me. They can sneak within my "inner circle" on the mini-map. This is horrifying. If the assaults could see with a much larger range then they would be able to do their job well. It wouldn't break the scouts either, it would just give them the edge in EWAR, where the Commando has the edge in DPS and the heavies have the edge in DPS/TANK.
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pdiddy anfama
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 16:59:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.*** LOL stop jumping in front of heavys trying to shoot them face to face CCP can't fix that.
If the dumbarse with the hmg in behind me would stop team killing it wouldn't be a problem. I'm faster hence I see enemy first. Enemy lights up hud on heavies display here comes cuse's dumbarss HMG shooting me in the back. So much for trying to flank after the friendly fire and enemy fire. While I lay there on the ground then one enemy heavy that killed me and the dumbarse friendly go at it.
I logged in to support your thread and this is the response I get. Awesome.
CCP fix PC your core game mode
Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 17:47:00 -
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pdiddy anfama wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.*** LOL stop jumping in front of heavys trying to shoot them face to face CCP can't fix that. If the dumbarse with the hmg in behind me would stop team killing it wouldn't be a problem. I'm faster hence I see enemy first. Enemy lights up hud on heavies display here comes cuse's dumbarss HMG shooting me in the back. So much for trying to flank after the friendly fire and enemy fire. While I lay there on the ground then one enemy heavy that killed me and the dumbarse friendly go at it. I logged in to support your thread and this is the response I get. Awesome. just trying to get are assault suits fixed bud don't mind the trolling. your assault suit has you so up tight about the topic you couldnt fit a greased bb up your butt.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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LOADED'HORN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:09:00 -
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What if said BB was fired from behind by an Hmg? OT, the assault is useless since scouts arrived. Cal ass needs another low slot for ewar/ range. You would still have to apply a precision or 2 in the highs to even scan anything though. Nullifying any hp increase. Still would be tough to use in PC due to shottys, but having better scans for point defense would help. I see 90% of reds with the cal scout and can't be seen by 75% of the reds. I would say the Cal and minimtar assaults need immediate attention. I miss using them.
Open beta vet. I look, listen and learn before I run my mouth. You should to.
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pdiddy anfama
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:17:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.*** LOL stop jumping in front of heavys trying to shoot them face to face CCP can't fix that. If the dumbarse with the hmg in behind me would stop team killing it wouldn't be a problem. I'm faster hence I see enemy first. Enemy lights up hud on heavies display here comes cuse's dumbarss HMG shooting me in the back. So much for trying to flank after the friendly fire and enemy fire. While I lay there on the ground then one enemy heavy that killed me and the dumbarse friendly go at it. I logged in to support your thread and this is the response I get. Awesome. just trying to get are assault suits fixed bud don't mind the trolling. your assault suit has you so up tight about the topic you couldnt fit a greased bb up your butt.
Team killed 4 times the other night. Twice by you and twice by our other two heavies on spine crescent. So yes the subject is sensitive. The BB is definitely a correct description because that's what I feel like my gun shoots out.
I say give the cal assault and min assault an automatic 5% to 10 % increase on damage. Fugg the reload bonus on rail rifles.
CCP fix PC your core game mode
Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:28:00 -
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pdiddy anfama wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:Yes please look at the assault suit. Especially Caldari.
***I am losing the nod war to get into pcs because of this crappy assault suit. Right now it's I want scouts, ads, or the occasional logi. I want to be viable so I am working on a second suit. But this game may not be around long enough for me to get that suit.*** LOL stop jumping in front of heavys trying to shoot them face to face CCP can't fix that. If the dumbarse with the hmg in behind me would stop team killing it wouldn't be a problem. I'm faster hence I see enemy first. Enemy lights up hud on heavies display here comes cuse's dumbarss HMG shooting me in the back. So much for trying to flank after the friendly fire and enemy fire. While I lay there on the ground then one enemy heavy that killed me and the dumbarse friendly go at it. I logged in to support your thread and this is the response I get. Awesome. just trying to get are assault suits fixed bud don't mind the trolling. your assault suit has you so up tight about the topic you couldnt fit a greased bb up your butt. Team killed 4 times the other night. Twice by you and twice by our other two heavies on spine crescent. So yes the subject is sensitive. The BB is definitely a correct description because that's what I feel like my gun shoots out. yeah i did shoot you it pained me to watch you dieing in that gunfight in your assault suit while i was standing there with a proto HMG waiting to blaze that redot in half so when your were allmost dead i just opend up on both you :(. but i run my assault suit every night in PC and kill tons but it does take a lot of skill to make this under powerd suit work. but im a diehard assault player and i will stick with it till dust is dead. matter fact im building a amarr assault right now to show them little caldari FOTM scout scrubs whats up #scramblerTotheface
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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