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xXcythe
savages of death
United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.07 04:37:00 -
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As a Caldari assaulter who was, according to most people, made useless by 1.8 Im always trying to find a way to make my role better yet have it make sense within the EVE universe, useful for players and balanced to never give anyone,including myself, an advantage. Nowadays a quarter of the time, since there are so many heavies and shotty scouts running around, I find myself in a Commando suit. Caldari commando, LONG LIVE THE STATE, U SHALL LEARN TO RESPECT THE STRENGTH OF THE CALDARI!!!!! (sorry i just needed to say that). While looking through descriptions of the suits, it says scouts suits have built in active camouflage. If you dont know what this is look here [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErfzjA4jWbM[/url].
We all know scouts dont have built in active camouflage and if they do it doesnt work........ What i want and propose is this:
Commandos have built in damage mods. I hate cloak shotty scouts but truth be told, if you give scouts a built in cloak and assaulters built in active camouflage, it would make the choice of roles even harder to make. That would be specific suit specialization. The suit tree of Legion already showed Assault suits and Spec ops suits. I as an assualter would love to have active camouflage (that works), it would make my role much more effective. Scouts can still use the same timers as the cloaks have now depending on standard, advanced, or proto.
To balance this out, I think that depending on your race, logis should have built in equipment. The reason logis chose certain suits was for the racial bonus to their equipment. Take that further, build that specific racial equipment into the suit. Minmatar has built in rep tool, Gallente has built in scanner, Caldari built in nanites or nanos, Amarr built in (whatever them birds use). LOGI SUITS ONLY. I dont think logis would mind having that slot open for a different piece of equipment with their chosen money maker already built in. This could also expand the roles and flexibility of the racial logi suits on the battlefield.
Commandos have built in damage mods already, heavies dont need anything else imo, but hey that my opinion.
So is this balanced, would it be cool, is it stupid or overpowered.
let the trolls begin.................................
CCP ain't solely responisble for killing Dust....the assholes who exploit the mechanics of the game did their part also.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.06.07 04:44:00 -
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1: active camo= cloak, so no.
2: built in stuff is a no no. a module that only X thing can use is fine, but built in? No.
3: There's no such thing as a sepc ops suit.
4: Current timers are **** now, and STD adv. and PROTO is going away (although this common uncommon and rare bullshit is probably jus trenamed STD Adv. and PROTO).
5: to the logis getting built in equipment, read 2
6: Your logic is flawed; how can something be more flexible if you force them you use up a slot for something they don't want?
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xXcythe
savages of death
United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:28:00 -
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1) Tell CCPactive camo is not a cloak thats y its called active camo not cloak. Active camo changes with your background cloak is SUPPOSED to make u invisible, its not the same thing. Solid snake in that link wasnt invisible he was camouflaged . his camouflage change with his background but he was still visible.
2) Ok ill give you that
3)You need to watch the WHOLE Legion keynote where it breaks down the new suit progression. Not giving you a link, go find it. Theres a tree in suit progression called Spec Ops
4) Go talk to CCP bout that, I cant change the timers......but either way cloaks will be in legion and they will be timed by meta level if thats what they wanna call it
5) Read 2
6) instead of a Min logi carrying a rep tool, he could use that slot for lets say an r.e because his rep tool is built in. Instead of going to get a different suit with an r.e on it he can make the suit more FLEXIBLE to do little a.v. or booby trapping while mainly being a combat support logi. If logis dont want some form of equipment they wouldnt have multiple suits with multiple equipment load outs.......
CCP ain't solely responisble for killing Dust....the assholes who exploit the mechanics of the game did their part also.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.06.07 07:23:00 -
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xXcythe wrote:1) Tell CCPactive camo is not a cloak thats y its called active camo not cloak. Active camo changes with your background cloak is SUPPOSED to make u invisible, its not the same thing. Solid snake in that link wasnt invisible he was camouflaged . his camouflage change with his background but he was still visible.
2) Ok ill give you that
3)You need to watch the WHOLE Legion keynote where it breaks down the new suit progression. Not giving you a link, go find it. Theres a tree in suit progression called Spec Ops
4) Go talk to CCP bout that, I cant change the timers......but either way cloaks will be in legion and they will be timed by meta level if thats what they wanna call it
5) Read 2
6) instead of a Min logi carrying a rep tool, he could use that slot for lets say an r.e because his rep tool is built in. Instead of going to get a different suit with an r.e on it he can make the suit more FLEXIBLE to do little a.v. or booby trapping while mainly being a combat support logi. If logis dont want some form of equipment they wouldnt have multiple suits with multiple equipment load outs.......
1: That's what the cloak does............
3: The tree showed nothing of the sort (seeing as though it was so small you couldn't read it), and I didn't hear him mention it ever. BTW, I already watched the thing. Twice.
4: I wasn't asking you to change it. Also, they want to go away from the phrase "meta level too". That I picked up from the progression keynote.
6: If you build something into a suit, obviosuly you will have to give up a slot for said thing. That's called balance. Otherwise that suit would be just getting a extra slot and extra CPU/PG for said slot. And that would be unbalanced. Denied. (no, not even the commando gets a extra damage mod. it gets bonuses that looks like a damage mod. Not the same thing).
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.06.09 01:24:00 -
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They call it a multi-spectrum active camouflage system. This is different to 'Active Camouflage', which operates to minmic the surroundings, after a short period of time.
But we have cloaks, which is better than 'Active Camouflage' since cloaks physically bend the light around the entity. (The blue tinge you see when someone is at full pelt is a result of the light refracting, like a rainbow)
The active camouflage in the scout description, hides it from pretty much everyother spectrum of energy BUT light.
So that's
UV
IR
MV
and pretty much anything else you can think of in the elctromagnetic spectrum EXCEPT light.
Looks like its back to FPS Military Shooter 56
Monkey Mac - Just another pile of discarded ashes on the battlefield!
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